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Myou
2010-03-05, 06:49 PM
If you have 8 dex (-1 mod), does that mean that your ac when flatfooted is higher than when you're aware of attacks?

Yakk
2010-03-05, 06:52 PM
It denies bonuses, not penalties.

Dexterity Modifier is slightly different than Dexterity Bonus.

Studoku
2010-03-05, 06:52 PM
No. At least I really hope there isn't a silly RAW interpretation that does this.

Ryumaru
2010-03-05, 06:52 PM
Nope. You only lose a bonus to AC; a penalty remains. You still suck just as much at dodging as you go '=o' and stumble back. =P

Myou
2010-03-05, 06:55 PM
Ahhh, that makes sense. So you get dex mod to AC normally, but lose dex bonus to AC when flatfooted.

KillianHawkeye
2010-03-05, 06:56 PM
Ahhh, that makes sense. So you get dex mod to AC normally, but lose dex bonus to AC when flatfooted.

Yes, exactly.

kakiseirei
2010-03-05, 07:33 PM
Ahhh, that makes sense. So you get dex mod to AC normally, but lose dex bonus to AC when flatfooted.

Sadly that is the case. I always liked to imagine that my PC would blindly stumble out of trouble without realising it, Inspector Clouseau Style :smallbiggrin:

Myou
2010-03-05, 07:40 PM
Sadly that is the case. I always liked to imagine that my PC would blindly stumble out of trouble without realising it, Inspector Clouseau Style :smallbiggrin:

Which makes no sesne but would be very amusing. That should be a feat - turn your Dex and Wis penalties into a bonus to your AC if you can sucessfully fail to notice attacks. x3

Draz74
2010-03-05, 08:11 PM
Which makes no sesne but would be very amusing. That should be a feat - turn your Dex and Wis penalties into a bonus to your AC if you can sucessfully fail to notice attacks. x3

You should also be able to tell when people are lying by failing Sense Motive checks.

Zom B
2010-03-05, 08:11 PM
Which makes no sesne but would be very amusing.

OTOH, it makes no sense for somebody who is bad at dodging to utilize their dex...or lack thereof. It signifies that they are aware of the attack if their dex is not excluded.