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TheCountAlucard
2010-03-20, 01:18 PM
Most of my Friday D&D group has just gotten to sixth level. Obviously, at that point, it's nice to have a good idea of what you want your character to be able to do, since the option of prestige classes has become viable. However, the players don't have a lot of experience with the rules, so I'm trying to help them along in that respect.

For instance, I was talking with the Fighter's player, and he and I both came to the conclusion that it's unfair to say that Fighters Can't Have Nice Things. We decided on letting him start taking levels in Warblade, and we also retrained his now-useless fifth level of Fighter into another level in Warblade. He gets a small number of maneuvers to play around with (he's going with a mix of Tiger Claw and Stone Dragon for now), and now his decent Intelligence score actually means something.

For the Ranger, who is focusing on archery, I suggested a small dip into Scout to let him qualify for Swift Hunter, since extra damage can be fairly nice. Really didn't know what else to suggest to him, though.

The party's Wizard (focusing on Evocation, banned Illusion and Necromancy) considered Archmage for a bit, but isn't convinced that the lost spell slots are worth the other benefits. The player is likely going to just continue taking levels in Wizard.

I'm at a bit of a loss for what to suggest to either of the Rogues in the party, though. One's a Gnome, the other's a Halfling.

The Halfling's got a number of the Luck feats from Complete Scoundrel, and uses them to good effect. He's excellent at attacking from hiding, and he likely wants to be even better at it. Not too familiar with Rogue-friendly PrCs. Any suggestions?

As for the Gnome, first he wanted to take levels in Assassin. He didn't seem to understand why I was uncomfortable with him playing an evil character, and also didn't seem to have a problem with killing someone "for the lulz." When I finally put the kibosh on that, he looked at Arcane Trickster, but ultimately passed on it. He decided he'd try and qualify for Shadowdancer, and I let him retrain his feats so that he'd be able to qualify in a few levels... but during last night's gaming session, he asked me if he could start taking levels in Druid. Apparently the Bag of Tricks he'd purchased previously was an influence on that... I really don't know what to suggest for this guy. :smallfrown:

Tinydwarfman
2010-03-20, 01:39 PM
I suggest to Tome Shadowdancer (http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Shadowdancer,_Tome_%283.5e_Prestige_Class%29) for a shadowdancer that is good at more than just running away. I would cut shadow vanish entirely, move shadow walk up to it's level, and swap the positions of phantasmal image and mirrorshard blades though. I would suggest both player read the Rogue Handbook (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19871666/The_3.5_Rogue_Handbook), sparse as it is.

On the topic of homebrew, look up the sublime ranger (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19519074/Sublime_Way_Variant_Ranger) for the ranger. Coupled with the three ToB archery styles floating around these boards, it is very cool and contributes a lot.

Starbuck_II
2010-03-20, 01:45 PM
As for the Gnome, first he wanted to take levels in Assassin. He didn't seem to understand why I was uncomfortable with him playing an evil character, and also didn't seem to have a problem with killing someone "for the lulz." When I finally put the kibosh on that, he looked at Arcane Trickster, but ultimately passed on it. He decided he'd try and qualify for Shadowdancer, and I let him retrain his feats so that he'd be able to qualify in a few levels... but during last night's gaming session, he asked me if he could start taking levels in Druid. Apparently the Bag of Tricks he'd purchased previously was an influence on that... I really don't know what to suggest for this guy. :smallfrown:

Sentinel of Bharri Prc? It is basically a Prc class Druid. You can turn into a bear by 3rd at will and call lightning (quickened). It is pretty good.

It adds +1 existing level (yes any class) so you could have it advance Rogue or Druid (if he takes Druid).

gorfnab
2010-03-20, 02:07 PM
For the Ranger, who is focusing on archery, I suggested a small dip into Scout to let him qualify for Swift Hunter, since extra damage can be fairly nice. Really didn't know what else to suggest to him, though.

Order of the Bow Initiate or Deepwood Sniper would probably work nicely for him. Also take a look in The 3.5 Ranger's Handbook (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=4621.0) and The Swift Hunter's Handbook (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=103.0) for more ideas.



The party's Wizard (focusing on Evocation, banned Illusion and Necromancy) considered Archmage for a bit, but isn't convinced that the lost spell slots are worth the other benefits. The player is likely going to just continue taking levels in Wizard.

I would suggest having him look into Master Specialist from Complete Mage




The Halfling's got a number of the Luck feats from Complete Scoundrel, and uses them to good effect. He's excellent at attacking from hiding, and he likely wants to be even better at it. Not too familiar with Rogue-friendly PrCs. Any suggestions?

Fortune's Friend from Complete Scoundrel for even more Luck based stuff.
Other prestige classes to look into would be Exemplar from Complete Adventurer, Thief Acrobat from Complete Adventurer, and Trapsmith from Dungeonscape.



As for the Gnome, first he wanted to take levels in Assassin. He didn't seem to understand why I was uncomfortable with him playing an evil character, and also didn't seem to have a problem with killing someone "for the lulz." When I finally put the kibosh on that, he looked at Arcane Trickster, but ultimately passed on it. He decided he'd try and qualify for Shadowdancer, and I let him retrain his feats so that he'd be able to qualify in a few levels... but during last night's gaming session, he asked me if he could start taking levels in Druid. Apparently the Bag of Tricks he'd purchased previously was an influence on that... I really don't know what to suggest for this guy. :smallfrown:
Rogue + Druid is the basic set-up for going into Daggerspell Shaper from Complete Adventurer.

TheCountAlucard
2010-03-20, 02:08 PM
Sentinel of Bharri Prc? It is basically a Prc class Druid. You can turn into a bear by 3rd at will and call lightning (quickened). It is pretty good.Unfortunately, even if he did meet the Exalted good requirements (seems that the only direction he's willing to take his CN alignment is down to CE), the eight ranks in two Knowledges he doesn't have would probably keep it out of his hands for a good long while...


(yes any class)The text appears to specify that it's referring to spellcasting classes...