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Lord of Syntax
2010-04-04, 07:31 PM
Where are they?

Blue Ghost
2010-04-04, 07:33 PM
The Elemental Plane of Titanium, I presume?

Brendan
2010-04-04, 07:33 PM
normally? they aren't real. it was a joke about lack of real physics in dnd. However, if they were real, does anyone know the statistics for one?

Lord of Syntax
2010-04-04, 07:33 PM
I remember them in the comic.

CrimsonAngel
2010-04-04, 07:37 PM
I remember them in the comic.

Good job. They were.

slayerx
2010-04-04, 07:37 PM
Where are they?

Well summoned monsters only stay for a short while...
They are good during a fight, but they would not last long enough to be guards or anykind of lasting force

zimmerwald1915
2010-04-04, 07:39 PM
If you're just looking for a cite, they appear in 423 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0423.html) and 424 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0424.html). If you're looking for them in a monster book, I can't really help you, as I don't own any. But they were probably a one-off gag for the comic and don't actually exist in any monster books, official or otherwise.

BRC
2010-04-04, 07:45 PM
Where are they?
Behind you!

But seriously, what are you asking.

What comics feature Titanium Elementals?
Zimmerwald just posted them.
Where in-comic are they?
V dismissed them, so they are probably back in the elemental plane of titanium, or wherever else Redcloak summoned them from.
What DnD book are they in?
None as far as I know. I think Rich made them up in order to make a joke.

Lord of Syntax
2010-04-04, 09:31 PM
I was looking for that comic, thanks.

Zerg Cookie
2010-04-05, 03:42 AM
normally? they aren't real. it was a joke about lack of real physics in dnd. However, if they were real, does anyone know the statistics for one?

As strong as Earth Elementals, but 40% lighter (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0423.html)

Zxo
2010-04-05, 04:48 AM
It wasn't a one-off, there was a Chlorine elemental (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0457.html) too, so we may see more of the periodic table in the future. I'm looking forward to it, so many possibilities...

Ancalagon
2010-04-05, 05:47 AM
I'm looking forward to it, so many possibilities...

What possibility? The >15 kg 235-U elemental? The >8 kg 239-PU elemental? You really don't want to be near the place where you summon those...

JoseB
2010-04-05, 06:14 AM
What possibility? The >15 kg 235-U elemental? The >8 kg 239-PU elemental? You really don't want to be near the place where you summon those...

There was a Magnesium elemental as well mentioned in the first compilation book, in one of the "extra" strips.

Nimrod's Son
2010-04-05, 06:36 AM
There was a Magnesium elemental as well mentioned in the first compilation book, in one of the "extra" strips.
It was in No Cure for the Paladin Blues, the second compilation book. And it wasn't just mentioned, it actually appeared.

Ancalagon
2010-04-05, 06:37 AM
There was a Magnesium elemental as well mentioned in the first compilation book, in one of the "extra" strips.

Why do you talk about boring magnesium when you can talk about nuclear chain reactions? ;)

Scarlet Knight
2010-04-05, 07:32 AM
Titanium elementals are a simply "pure-blood" minority from the Plane of earth...:smallwink:

Optimystik
2010-04-05, 07:57 AM
What I find interesting is that V seems to be as knowledgeable as Redcloak concerning chemistry. Not only did he correctly identify the elementals, (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0424.html) he also referenced "an ideal gas" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0296.html) earlier.

Teddy
2010-04-05, 09:55 AM
There was a Magnesium elemental as well mentioned in the first compilation book, in one of the "extra" strips.

DstP bonus strip:
V tells Elan that baby Water elementals are born when one Oxygen elemental pairs together with two Hydrogen elementals, with the strip showing the pairing.

Tricksy Hobbits
2010-04-05, 10:04 AM
What I find interesting is that V seems to be as knowledgeable as Redcloak concerning chemistry. Not only did he correctly identify the elementals, (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0424.html) he also referenced "an ideal gas" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0296.html) earlier.

Well, they do have their (abbreviated) name and atomic number/mass on them so maybe V also "got passing grades in chem."

Wikimaster
2010-04-05, 10:07 AM
Someone should go to the Crack Pairings Thread for this.

Sereg
2010-04-05, 10:08 AM
A while back, there was a thread for homebrewing these "alternative elementals". I'll see if I can find it.

EDIT: Here we go

Teddy
2010-04-05, 10:13 AM
Someone should go to the Crack Pairings Thread for this.

Well, would I ever read a crack paring story about the creation of just about any polymeric molecule, I'm sure that my brain would implode from the rapid brain cell decay.

Optimystik
2010-04-05, 10:27 AM
Well, would I ever read a crack paring story about the creation of just about any polymeric molecule, I'm sure that my brain would implode from the rapid brain cell decay.

I read it as a crackfic about V and Redcloak being in the same chemistry class. This is before Redcloak actually gets the cloak and becomes xenophobic, naturally leading to a Victorious Childhood Friend (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VictoriousChildhoodFriend) scenario.

...
*scribbles*

EmperorSarda
2010-04-05, 01:53 PM
Think of what you could do with Uranium elementals...

Snake-Aes
2010-04-05, 01:59 PM
Think of what you could do with Uranium elementals...

Copernicium elemental!

EmperorSarda
2010-04-05, 02:02 PM
Are fire elementals formed by throwing a lit match on hydrogen elementals?

Can you summon Carbon Monoxide elementals?

Dr.Epic
2010-04-05, 02:03 PM
Why do you talk about boring magnesium when you can talk about nuclear chain reactions? ;)

They're not called "Reactionals" you know. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0423.html)

Snake-Aes
2010-04-05, 02:03 PM
Are fire elementals formed by throwing a lit match on hydrogen elementals?

Can you summon Carbon Monoxide elementals?

That would actually be the conjuring version of a fireball.

multilis
2010-04-05, 02:09 PM
When they aren't being summoned for battle, Titanium elementals tend to hang out with their buddies the Chlorine elementals in their home, eating snacks on the periodic table.

Studoku
2010-04-05, 02:11 PM
Can you summon Carbon Monoxide elementals?

They're not called compoundals either.

Kiayateo
2010-04-05, 02:26 PM
Got bored at work. Its decent, but I could probably do better given some time.

Titanium Elemental CR 8
Huge Elemental
Init +2; Senses darkvision 60ft, Listen +10, Spot +9
---DEFENSE------------------------------------------------------------------------
AC 22, touch 10, flat-footed 20; (-2 size, +2 Dex, +12 natural)
hp 152 (16d8+80); dying/dead -6/-21; DR 10/-
Fort +15, Ref +7, Will +7
---OFFENSE------------------------------------------------------------------------
Spd 40ft
Melee slam +19 (2d10+9)
Space 15ft; Reach 15ft
Special Attacks earth mastery, push
---STATISTICS---------------------------------------------------------------------
Str 29, Dex 14, Con 21, Int 6, Wis 10, Cha 11
Base Attack +12; Grapple +29
Feats Awesome Blow, Cleave, Great Cleave, Improved Bull Rush, Iron Will, Power Attack
Skills Listen +10, Spot +9
Languages Terran
Special Qualities DR 10/-, vulnerability to fire, immune to acid and rusting grasp
---ECOLOGY------------------------------------------------------------------------
Environment Elemental Plane of Earth
Organization Solitary
Treasure Value None


Key things: Harder and lighter than an earth elemental, immune to acid, vulnerable to fire (at over 800F pure titanium loses tensile strength).

The Dark Fiddler
2010-04-05, 02:35 PM
You're all on the wrong train of thought.

Why would anybody bother with Uranium elementals when you could summon Ununoctium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ununoctium) elementals? :smalltongue:

EmperorSarda
2010-04-05, 02:35 PM
They're not called compoundals either.

That's what Animal Husbandry is for. ;-)

Teddy
2010-04-05, 02:42 PM
Got bored at work. Its decent, but I could probably do better given some time.

Titanium Elemental CR 8
Huge Elemental
Init +2; Senses darkvision 60ft, Listen +10, Spot +9
---DEFENSE------------------------------------------------------------------------
AC 22, touch 10, flat-footed 20; (-2 size, +2 Dex, +12 natural)
hp 152 (16d8+80); dying/dead -6/-21; DR 10/-
Fort +15, Ref +7, Will +7
---OFFENSE------------------------------------------------------------------------
Spd 40ft
Melee slam +19 (2d10+9)
Space 15ft; Reach 15ft
Special Attacks earth mastery, push
---STATISTICS---------------------------------------------------------------------
Str 29, Dex 14, Con 21, Int 6, Wis 10, Cha 11
Base Attack +12; Grapple +29
Feats Awesome Blow, Cleave, Great Cleave, Improved Bull Rush, Iron Will, Power Attack
Skills Listen +10, Spot +9
Languages Terran
Special Qualities DR 10/-, vulnerability to fire, immune to acid and rusting grasp
---ECOLOGY------------------------------------------------------------------------
Environment Elemental Plane of Earth
Organization Solitary
Treasure Value None


Key things: Harder and lighter than an earth elemental, immune to acid, vulnerable to fire (at over 800F pure titanium loses tensile strength).

Immune to acid? I summon an Aqua Regia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_regia) Solutional to prove you wrong.

Keshay
2010-04-05, 02:51 PM
Immune to acid? I summon an Aqua Regia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_regia) Solutional to prove you wrong.

But, in the very first paragraph of that article it specifically states that Titanium is resistant to Aqua regia.

Teddy
2010-04-05, 03:10 PM
But, in the very first paragraph of that article it specifically states that Titanium is resistant to Aqua regia.

Hmm, well, the Swedish verson told me that Iridium is the only metal which isn't at least partially affected by it, and it is more straightforward written, but it mentions Ruthenium instead of Tantalum, Osmium and Titanium as a resistant metal. Perhaps an acid resistance up the wazoo would fit better than just immunity, and perhaps I should read the English Wikipedia-pages too before I link them...

The Succubus
2010-04-05, 03:13 PM
Well, would I ever read a crack paring story about the creation of just about any polymeric molecule, I'm sure that my brain would implode from the rapid brain cell decay.

Why do you tell us these things?

*nips off to his corrupted word processor*

Acero
2010-04-05, 04:15 PM
You're all on the wrong train of thought.

Why would anybody bother with Uranium elementals when you could summon Ununoctium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ununoctium) elementals? :smalltongue:

nothing compared to Unobtainium!

Sereg
2010-04-06, 12:49 AM
I read it as a crackfic about V and Redcloak being in the same chemistry class. This is before Redcloak actually gets the cloak and becomes xenophobic, naturally leading to a Victorious Childhood Friend (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VictoriousChildhoodFriend) scenario.

...
*scribbles*

Join us!

As for Ununoctium, a noble solid?

factotum
2010-04-06, 01:16 AM
Key things: Harder and lighter than an earth elemental, immune to acid, vulnerable to fire (at over 800F pure titanium loses tensile strength).

Non-magical fire would be unlikely to get as high as 800F, though--you're not going to soften titanium in a camp fire!

Tass
2010-04-06, 02:27 AM
Eh? 800F thats only like 400C. An ordinary bonfire readily reaches 1000C in the center.

Andvare
2010-04-06, 02:52 AM
I know it wasn't an elemental, but the Radiant Golem from Spelljammer was awesome. Well, perhaps not awesome, but definitely special (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_retardation).
And all they wanted was to be your friend, and give friendly hugs.

Nimrod's Son
2010-04-06, 06:37 AM
I read it as a crackfic about V and Redcloak being in the same chemistry class. This is before Redcloak actually gets the cloak and becomes xenophobic, naturally leading to a Victorious Childhood Friend (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VictoriousChildhoodFriend) scenario.

...
*scribbles*
Judging from Zanaril's (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/member.php?u=19631) signature, someone's beaten you to it.

talkamancer
2010-04-06, 07:13 AM
Anyone done the stats on a Bilver elemental ?

Snake-Aes
2010-04-06, 07:18 AM
Eh? 800F thats only like 400C. An ordinary bonfire readily reaches 1000C in the center.

426°C actually. Candles beat that to 1000°C

Optimystik
2010-04-06, 07:24 AM
Judging from Zanaril's (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/member.php?u=19631) signature, someone's beaten you to it.

No, mine's different. In Zan's picture, RC already has his eyepatch, therefore they aren't children.

...Not that I'm seriously going to post in that hive of scum and villainy very strange thread.

Roland Itiative
2010-04-06, 08:16 AM
No, mine's different. In Zan's picture, RC already has his eyepatch, therefore they aren't children.

Maybe young RC though an eyepatch would make him look mysterious (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0502.html).:smallbiggrin:

Frozen_Feet
2010-04-06, 08:26 AM
DstP bonus strip:
V tells Elan that baby Water elementals are born when one Oxygen elemental pairs together with two Hydrogen elementals, with the strip showing the pairing.
I can imagina such pair being quite consumed by their fiery passion for each other.

Wikimaster
2010-04-06, 08:39 AM
Here's another suggestion: Sodium/Chloride OTP!

Edit: Also, I liked the pun in the previous post. Give me more!

Nimrod's Son
2010-04-06, 08:41 AM
No, mine's different. In Zan's picture, RC already has his eyepatch, therefore they aren't children.
...You mean the fact that they're studying together whilst holding hands doesn't suggest a different continuity altogether? :smalltongue:

Sereg
2010-04-06, 09:27 AM
No, mine's different. In Zan's picture, RC already has his eyepatch, therefore they aren't children.

It's AU. "Dumped on the Rooster" by Water-Smurf. As far as I can recall chemistry class hasn't come up yet.


...Not that I'm seriously going to post in that hive of scum and villainy very strange thread.

Join ussssssssss! (Seriously, we're not as bad as people make us out to be. Otherwise, how would we have managed to get to eight threads?)

Scarlet Knight
2010-04-06, 10:57 AM
I can imagina such pair being quite consumed by their fiery passion for each other.

"Psst! Wanna' buy some chemistry porn? It's got bondage..."

:smallcool:

JohnnyCancer
2010-04-06, 12:20 PM
Sodium elementals would be fun.

Edwin
2010-04-06, 12:42 PM
Personally, I'd love to see a Magnesium Elemental.

Throw at match at that bad boy, and fzzzt..!

doodthedud
2010-04-06, 12:55 PM
I was looking for that comic, thanks.

I find your name ironic now.

the humanity
2010-04-06, 02:38 PM
I shudder at the thought of a Francium elemental.

everything it does is an explosion. it's a walking bullrush/shrapnel machine. and when you kill it, it blows up again. if you cast any water or ice spells, it destroys you.

and that would be the small one.

Ancalagon
2010-04-06, 02:45 PM
I shudder at the thought of a Francium elemental.

You shudder for the wrong reasons. Francium is radioactive. I seriously hope you don't got your knowledge from that fake show "Brainiac". ;)

the humanity
2010-04-06, 03:00 PM
You shudder for the wrong reasons. Francium is radioactive. I seriously hope you don't got your knowledge from that fake show "Brainiac". ;)

radioactive? a few little warpings in 3 days and a painful aura? a first level adventurer could make the saves against cancer, I'm sure.

I got my information from a chemistry professor. I then later watched Braniac when curious about what he said.

not sure how accurate that was, but it was quite fun to watch.

Ancalagon
2010-04-06, 03:36 PM
Accuracy: They used dynamite (or whatever) because the real alkalimetals didn't have enough punch. You can even see the cables that lead to the bathtubs in a few shots.

Francium is highly radioactive, it has a half-life of some 20 minutes (means it's very(!) active) and there is very, very, very little in existence at any time*. The biggest mass that has been created in a lab was like 10.000 atoms or so.

* edit: Wikipedia says around 30 g in the entire earth's crust! The 20 minutes I talked about also was the half-life of the longest living isotope, other isotopes decay even faster (and thus radiate more intense)!

Teddy
2010-04-06, 05:06 PM
Accuracy: They used dynamite (or whatever) because the real alkalimetals didn't have enough punch. You can even see the cables that lead to the bathtubs in a few shots.

Francium is highly radioactive, it has a half-life of some 20 minutes (means it's very(!) active) and there is very, very, very little in existence at any time*. The biggest mass that has been created in a lab was like 10.000 atoms or so.

* edit: Wikipedia says around 30 g in the entire earth's crust! The 20 minutes I talked about also was the half-life of the longest living isotope, other isotopes decay even faster (and thus radiate more intense)!

To add even more fun facts about Francium:

Francium is the worlds absolutely most expensive element.

Francium is used to start the fission in an nuclear reactor (Hence why there even is a demand for it).


Personally, I'd love to see a Magnesium Elemental.

Throw at match at that bad boy, and fzzzt..!

There is one in an NCftPB bonus strip.

warrl
2010-04-06, 05:22 PM
There was a Magnesium elemental as well mentioned in the first compilation book, in one of the "extra" strips.

Do not hit those things with fire spells. It's just bad news.

Also, keep the Lithium elementals away from water. (Sodium too, I think.)

warrl
2010-04-06, 05:30 PM
What possibility? The >15 kg 235-U elemental? The >8 kg 239-PU elemental? You really don't want to be near the place where you summon those...

Uranium elementals are not really a problem, as long as you don't let them become wealthy. Ordinary uranium is just a rather heavy, mildly radioactive metal; enriched uranium overheats. Fortunately, it is very difficult to make your uranium elementals sufficiently wealthy to make a nuclear explosion possible - and even then it takes a lot of effort to stop the uranium from melting, boiling, and thus spreading itself around sufficiently to avoid such an explosion.

The plutonium elementals would be more of a problem.

I don't know where a radium elemental would fit in this (but it would be easy to spot at night).