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~LuckyBoneDice~
2010-04-14, 11:39 AM
I have always wanted to play a nature-based hero with a Full BAB and casting. However, the DM won't let me be a Ranger (we have 2) and I need an alternative. Considered a "Swift" Druid from UA, but I plan to be more of a blaster-type. Can this be done?

The race is Killoren from Races of the Wild or Neraphim from Planar Handbook

RagnaroksChosen
2010-04-14, 12:02 PM
I have always wanted to play a nature-based hero with a Full BAB and casting. However, the DM won't let me be a Ranger (we have 2) and I need an alternative. Considered a "Swift" Druid from UA, but I plan to be more of a blaster-type. Can this be done?

The race is Killoren from Races of the Wild or Neraphim from Planar Handbook

Yes, I would highly recomend looking at the spirit shaman out of CD.
Druid spell list,(which i think is great for blasting) and a funky spell casting mechanic that you may enjoy, as well as a bunch of anti spirit stuff(spirit beign pritty broad , look at the class)

Yuki Akuma
2010-04-14, 12:08 PM
Yes, I would highly recomend looking at the spirit shaman out of CD.
Druid spell list,(which i think is great for blasting) and a funky spell casting mechanic that you may enjoy, as well as a bunch of anti spirit stuff(spirit beign pritty broad , look at the class)

He asked for full BaB. Spirit Shamans do not have full BaB.

I can't think of any nature-centric classes with full BaB and spellcasting, unfortunately. Druid is probably your best bet, really. Their wildshape can make up for the lost BaB.

Toliudar
2010-04-14, 12:08 PM
What about proposing to your DM that you play a druid, but lose wildshape in favour of full BAB. I know that he'll look more powerful than other full BAB classes...because he is...but I think it's actually a downgrade of the overall druid power, and seems to be what you're asking for.

RagnaroksChosen
2010-04-14, 12:16 PM
He asked for full BaB. Spirit Shamans do not have full BaB.

I can't think of any nature-centric classes with full BaB and spellcasting, unfortunately. Druid is probably your best bet, really. Their wildshape can make up for the lost BaB.

ya i know, he also said he wanted a nature warrior esc character with spell casting.

Though not full bab i think this fits what he wants more.


Op: as well if you want to go lighting esc
Go spirit shaman 11/stormlord x.

You can do some nice things with a spear.

Doc Roc
2010-04-14, 12:18 PM
Stormlord? :smallannoyed:
Okay:

So what kind of power level am I allowed to exercise here?

~LuckyBoneDice~
2010-04-14, 12:56 PM
Stormlord? :smallannoyed:
Okay:

So what kind of power level am I allowed to exercise here?

appx 90% of ur full capabilities

RagnaroksChosen
2010-04-14, 01:09 PM
Stormlord? :smallannoyed:
Okay:

So what kind of power level am I allowed to exercise here?

for a spirit shaman stormlord isn't that bad. it definetly adds to the whole wanna be a fighter/fullcaster druid thing.

~LuckyBoneDice~
2010-04-14, 01:13 PM
for a spirit shaman stormlord isn't that bad. it definetly adds to the whole wanna be a fighter/fullcaster druid thing.

Minus we fight no incorporeal foes

sonofzeal
2010-04-14, 01:18 PM
Totemist - nature warrior with some supernatural power

Binder (w/ Buer) - supernatural warrior with some nature elements

Spirit Shaman - nature caster with some fighting ability

Fey-themed Warlock - supernatural utility character with some nature elements.

~LuckyBoneDice~
2010-04-14, 01:20 PM
Totemist - nature warrior with some supernatural power

Binder (w/ Buer) - supernatural warrior with some nature elements

Spirit Shaman - nature caster with some fighting ability

Fey-themed Warlock - supernatural utility character with some nature elements.

have to be a spellcaster, or DM will say no. If that wasn't the case, i'd do a totemist

seriously though, it is bullcrap. I want to leave the party High and Dry

Yuki Akuma
2010-04-14, 01:23 PM
seriously though, it is bullcrap. I want to leave the party High and Dry

Then do so. If you don't want to play with them you shouldn't.

RagnaroksChosen
2010-04-14, 01:24 PM
Minus we fight no incorporeal foes

niether did we in the games i played one.



For this class, ‘spirits’ are defined as the following: Incorporeal Undead, Fey, Creatures in Astral Form or with
Astral Bodies, Creatures with the ‘spirit’ subtype (see Oriental Adventures), Spirit Folk, Telthors, & spirit
creatures created by spells such as Dream Sight & Wood Wose.
Though not listed there but in C divine it also includes elementals.

Kylarra
2010-04-14, 01:26 PM
Then do so. If you don't want to play with them you shouldn't.Yeah, this. No point in forcing yourself to play games you don't want to.

~LuckyBoneDice~
2010-04-14, 01:28 PM
Yeah, this. No point in forcing yourself to play games you don't want to.

But the DM is my best friend and I've seen this group from the beginning

Yuki Akuma
2010-04-14, 01:29 PM
But the DM is my best friend and I've seen this group from the beginning

So? You can be friends with someone and still be unwilling to play with them.

Kylarra
2010-04-14, 01:30 PM
But the DM is my best friend and I've seen this group from the beginningI'm not saying stop being friends with him. I'm saying don't play with a party you don't want to play with. You can still hang out and do stuff together without the game, I assume.

~LuckyBoneDice~
2010-04-14, 01:31 PM
So? You can be friends with someone and still be unwilling to play with them.

I fought for 3 years to keep the group together. It's too long a story to tell. I'm a founding member

Caliphbubba
2010-04-14, 01:34 PM
Play a standard druid and watch as your ranger companions weep bitter tears as you out melee, and then turn around and blast the bejesus out of stuff too. While your animal companion humps their's to death.

~LuckyBoneDice~
2010-04-14, 01:37 PM
Play a standard druid and watch as your ranger companions weep bitter tears as you out melee, and then turn around and blast the bejesus out of stuff too. While your animal companion humps their's to death.

I'm not THAT evil... However, did consider racially a Seelie Court Killoren...

and the rangers are the DM and his g/f

RagnaroksChosen
2010-04-14, 01:40 PM
I'm not THAT evil... However, did consider racially a Seelie Court Killoren...

and the rangers are the DM and his g/f

ugh DMPC that sucks...

Does the class need to be nature based there are some great out of the box caster /fighter types

Such as duskblade or hexblade?

Kylarra
2010-04-14, 01:41 PM
I fought for 3 years to keep the group together. It's too long a story to tell. I'm a founding member
If it's a game you don't want to play, you're just throwing good money after bad.

~LuckyBoneDice~
2010-04-14, 01:44 PM
ugh DMPC that sucks...

Does the class need to be nature based there are some great out of the box caster /fighter types

Such as duskblade or hexblade?

#1, his DMPC is the reincarnation of Correlleon

#2, He's probably gonna be a Seelie Court Killoren

Kylarra
2010-04-14, 01:46 PM
#1, his DMPC is the reincarnation of Correlleon:smallsigh: Yeah, that's gonna work out well.

~LuckyBoneDice~
2010-04-14, 01:47 PM
:smallsigh: Yeah, that's gonna work out well.

It's his character from another campaign.

He cannot be killed, or the whole cosmos goes to hell in a handbasket. Nor can anyone else minus me

Kylarra
2010-04-14, 01:51 PM
It's his character from another campaign.

He cannot be killed, or the whole cosmos goes to hell in a handbasket. Nor can anyone else minus meYou know, between this thread and the other thread, I've got huge red flags saying,"GET OUT OF GROUP IMMEDIATELY" flashing over and over.

~LuckyBoneDice~
2010-04-14, 01:51 PM
You know, between this thread and the other thread, I've got huge red flags saying,"GET OUT OF GROUP IMMEDIATELY" flashing over and over.

the other thread is connected to this 1

Yuki Akuma
2010-04-14, 01:52 PM
the other thread is connected to this 1

Then why did you feel the need to start two threads?

Kylarra
2010-04-14, 01:53 PM
the other thread is connected to this 1I am aware of this. It changes nothing.

Telonius
2010-04-14, 01:55 PM
Anything wrong with a Cleric of Obad-Hai? Standard DMM tricks will get you the equivalent of full BAB.

PlzBreakMyCmpAn
2010-04-16, 05:26 PM
appx 90% of ur full capabilities
DON'T LISTEN TO HIM! otherwise we'd all be very, very hungry polymorphed giants

In before someone mentioned Divine Might (it was alluded to)

Otherwise cleric/druid with fractional BaB helps