Danne
2010-04-14, 03:44 PM
I've been lurking reading a lot of the various theories regarding future events with interest, and there's one theory in particular that seems to be very common. Namely, that Elan and Nale's father will somehow be involved in the events to come. Most think that he's the tyrant holding Haley's father captive, though there are other theories, as well.
It seems I'm in the minority with this, but I always assumed that Elan and Nale's father was dead. I got that impression from this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0061.html) strip, for the following reasons:
1) Nale tries to kill Elan.
2) Elan, recovered, demands to know why.
3) Nale tells him, "I gave you a chance to join me. But you'd rather stay with these fools? Well, I can't very well allow you to continue breathing after an insult like that, now, can I? Because no one denies me, Elan. Not father, not you, no one.
4) They then fight, with Nale doing his darndest to kill Elan.
The impression I take away from this is that, after their father denied him one too many times, Nale killed him just like he tried to do with Elan. He never comes right out and says it, and I suppose there are other possible interpretations (Daddy denied him so Nale stormed off in a huff, for example) but "I killed my own father for denying me, and now I'm going to kill you for the same reason!" makes the most sense to me.
Instead, I'd like to posit the following situation: Oots and Team Evil, with the addition of Girard's group (and possibly Ian), have a final showdown at Girard's Gate. Oots wins, with Redcloak probably having some sort of heel-face turn, overcoming Xykon and/or dying a tragic death, etc. Then the Order receives word from O-Chul and Lien that Kraagor's Gate is in jeopardy, as well, and they set off to stop the Linear Guild. We know that Nale & co. are the IFCC's pawns via Sabine, so at some point during the struggle the IFCC will reveal themselves to the party (not sure how this will affect V) and we'll have a final showdown.
I know that Xykon has been the Big Bad since day one, but we know that he's heading for Girard's Gate next. We also know that Nale is after a Gate and that O-Chul and Lien have been sent to monitor Kraagar's, and it makes sense to me that these points wouldn't be included if they weren't intended to foreshadow things (Chekov would be proud). As for Xykon, it wouldn't be the first time that the Big Bad of a series has been defeated before the actual end of the story, with the final climax taking place later with a threat that no one even realized was a threat until events after the BB is dead. The IFCC have been making me very nervous since they were first introduced. I would not be surprised at all of they turn out to be a bigger threat than Xykon.
Any thoughts?
It seems I'm in the minority with this, but I always assumed that Elan and Nale's father was dead. I got that impression from this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0061.html) strip, for the following reasons:
1) Nale tries to kill Elan.
2) Elan, recovered, demands to know why.
3) Nale tells him, "I gave you a chance to join me. But you'd rather stay with these fools? Well, I can't very well allow you to continue breathing after an insult like that, now, can I? Because no one denies me, Elan. Not father, not you, no one.
4) They then fight, with Nale doing his darndest to kill Elan.
The impression I take away from this is that, after their father denied him one too many times, Nale killed him just like he tried to do with Elan. He never comes right out and says it, and I suppose there are other possible interpretations (Daddy denied him so Nale stormed off in a huff, for example) but "I killed my own father for denying me, and now I'm going to kill you for the same reason!" makes the most sense to me.
Instead, I'd like to posit the following situation: Oots and Team Evil, with the addition of Girard's group (and possibly Ian), have a final showdown at Girard's Gate. Oots wins, with Redcloak probably having some sort of heel-face turn, overcoming Xykon and/or dying a tragic death, etc. Then the Order receives word from O-Chul and Lien that Kraagor's Gate is in jeopardy, as well, and they set off to stop the Linear Guild. We know that Nale & co. are the IFCC's pawns via Sabine, so at some point during the struggle the IFCC will reveal themselves to the party (not sure how this will affect V) and we'll have a final showdown.
I know that Xykon has been the Big Bad since day one, but we know that he's heading for Girard's Gate next. We also know that Nale is after a Gate and that O-Chul and Lien have been sent to monitor Kraagar's, and it makes sense to me that these points wouldn't be included if they weren't intended to foreshadow things (Chekov would be proud). As for Xykon, it wouldn't be the first time that the Big Bad of a series has been defeated before the actual end of the story, with the final climax taking place later with a threat that no one even realized was a threat until events after the BB is dead. The IFCC have been making me very nervous since they were first introduced. I would not be surprised at all of they turn out to be a bigger threat than Xykon.
Any thoughts?