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Heliomance
2010-04-20, 09:17 AM
The Shapeshifter Showdown (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShapeshifterShowdown) is a staple of fantasy worlds, and downright awesome to boot. And yet there's no real way to do it in D&D, despite the fact that shapeshifting is common. Is there a way to do it justice, either in D&D or another system?

Eldariel
2010-04-20, 09:23 AM
MoMF vs. MoMF can be like this. The problem is, of course, that if they're well-built, there are very few optimal combat forms for them and it just isn't that useful to keep shifting around, but as they can shift as a move/swift action, it's often affordable.

Still, yeah, "switching combat modes" is an interesting option for characters of that kind; go from stealth to detection to earth gliding to reach to brawler. They tend to have enough Wildshape uses to afford it.

Kobold-Bard
2010-04-20, 10:50 AM
Be a Shapeshift Druid each and use either these alternate form feats (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78186) (DaTedinator) or be a Battle Shifter (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74521) (The Demented One).

All of a sudden you have loads more forms to play with, maybe make up a few new ones (ones that give smaller sizes etc).

Just an idea, which I know relies on homebrew to succeed, but when the homebre is this awesome nothing should stop you :smallbiggrin: