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da red fox
2010-04-20, 05:50 PM
So, i'm rolling up an wizard/initiate of the sevenfold veil, and was confused by something.

The save DC for an initiate’s warding is equal to 18 + her primary
spellcasting ability modifier (Intelligence for wizards,
Charisma for sorcerers and bards, and so on). The spell level
equivalent of a warding depends on which veil is integrated
into it.

so if i put up a red veil (equivalent 4th lvl spell) and someone walked through it, would the reflex save DC against the damage be 22 (18 + 4 int mod)
or 18 (10 + 4 + 4 int mod)?



2010-04-20, 05:54 PM
It's just 18+Int mod. The veils are modeled after a Prismatic Wall, so they use the save of a Prismatic Wall.

da red fox
2010-04-20, 05:57 PM

this characters gonna rock :amused:

2010-04-20, 05:59 PM

this characters gonna rock :amused:

Take Abrupt Jaunt to be even more of a jerk. Enemy attempts to hit you, they take the Veil effect, teleport 10 feet and make them do it again.

There is a reason they are called Initiates of the Sevenfold Cheese...

da red fox
2010-04-20, 06:05 PM
i've heard of that before, but don't know where to find it. would you mind telling me what book its in?

2010-04-20, 06:07 PM

It is an alternate class feature for a conjurer (wizard conjuration specialist) you loose your familiar though.

da red fox
2010-04-20, 06:11 PM
oh, well i actually prefer generalist wizards to specialist ones, and don't have the PHBII, so that's out.