Could Tyrannis be a dragon or a lizardfolk?

[paladinofshojo]

I know this goes against the whole "Tyrannis is Nale and Elan's father" but I'm just saying that because his name is similar to Tyrannasaurous Rex that he may be a villian of the reptillian variety, and there doesn't seem to be a shortage of them in the Western Continent either...

[Maximum Zersk]

Tyrinar is neither a lizardfolk or dragon. He's probably dinosaur. :smalltongue:

[Gift Jeraff]

It's Tyrinar, but that would be very interesting: On the map in #698, we can see that the "nations" of the Western Continents either have cheesy names with synonyms for evil stuff or reptilian stuff (Scalya above Dictatoria and Reptilia between the Empires of Blood and Tears).

[Secris]

I always saw it as a derivative of tyrant, not t-rex.

[Raphite1]

Maybe, but you'd be right for the wrong reason. Both "Tyrannis" and "Tyrannosaurus" are derived from "tyrant." Saying that the word "Tyrannis" was derived from "Tyrannosaurus" would be like saying that the word "icicle" was derived from "ice cream" - both are derived from "ice."

[Nimrod's Son]

Both "Tyrannis" and "Tyrannosaurus" are derived from "tyrant."
"Tyrannis" is Latin for "Tyrant". The character's name is Tyrinar.

[theMycon]

"Tyrannis" is Latin for "Tyrant". Or, more specifically, "mayor".

[Nimrod's Son]

Well, I'm hardly a Latin scholar, but it means "tyrants" in the famous phrase "Sic semper tyrannis" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic_semper_tyrannis), it translates as "tyrant" and "absolute ruler" through online translators and those same translators seem to have no word for "mayor" at all. So, meh. :smalltongue:

[Dr.Epic]

He's a dinosaur and Elan and Nale's father. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0693.html)

[ThePhantasm]

Well, I'm hardly a Latin scholar, but it means "tyrants" in the famous phrase "Sic semper tyrannis" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic_semper_tyrannis), it translates as "tyrant" and "absolute ruler" through online translators and those same translators seem to have no word for "mayor" at all. So, meh. :smalltongue:

"Thus always to mayors" doesn't make a lot of sense, does it? :smalltongue:

[TheYoungKing]

Tyrant was Greek, and did not mean Mayor. It originally meant any leader that took power by unconventional/illegitimate means and slowly took on more negative overtones.

[Vinyadan]

Just to avoid confusion:
Latin: Tyrannus. Second declination, ergo tyrannis.
Greek: Tyrannos. Second declination. From the greek word comes the latin word. The greek word probably has eastern origin. It means "someone who rules a state without being subject to the law".
Dominus (latin) and despotes (greek) mean lord.

[Asta Kask]

And what does Darth Tyrannus mean?

[SmaugTheYounger]

And what does Darth Tyrannus mean?

George Lucas got his latin from MAD magazine.

[Acrux]

He's a dinosaur and Elan and Nale's father. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0693.html)

You know, with the penchant this comic has for turning off-hand comments into pivotal plot-points, I really think you might be on to something.

[NerfTW]

You know, with the penchant this comic has for turning off-hand comments into pivotal plot-points, I really think you might be on to something.

I dunno, there's already one half dragon bard (http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Deekin_Scalesinger), I don't think the world can handle two.

[KeybladePalidin]

Elan a half dragon? As funny as that would be don't you think there'd be some physical signs of it. He's (in comic) the hottest male character. Not a single sign of scales. Also his father was shown to be human. Check Elan and Nael's backstory comic.

[martinkou]

I dunno, there's already one half dragon bard (http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Deekin_Scalesinger), I don't think the world can handle two.

And both of them sing really horrible songs, what are the chances.

Deekin is like 20 levels higher than Elan, though. He can basically solo Xykon and win.

[Threeshades]

"Thus always to mayors" doesn't make a lot of sense, does it? :smalltongue:

Tyrannis is singular.

@Asta Kask
That was Darth Tyranus. And it translates to "Mr. Evil Sounding Name", as did all Darths created after Vader.

[Tannhaeuser]

"Tyrannis" is not a singular, but a second declension masculine dative plural (Thus always to tyrants). Vinyadan has it right; it was a loan-word from Greek.

[mikeejimbo]

Elan a half dragon? As funny as that would be don't you think there'd be some physical signs of it. He's (in comic) the hottest male character. Not a single sign of scales. Also his father was shown to be human. Check Elan and Nael's backstory comic.

Doesn't he have a helmet?

He (Elan+Nale's father) could be half dragon, making Elan merely dragon-blooded.

[Bongos]

Who is Tyrannis?

[Kish]

A second declension masculine dative plural, didn't you see Tannhaeuser's post?

[derfenrirwolv]

The helmet looks a little flat to be hiding some kind of snout.

[deuxhero]

Though it's only an image spot. He could be be in an alt form.

[Bongos]

All signs point to dinosaur

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0693.html

[Danne]

Tyrannis is singular.

@Asta Kask
That was Darth Tyranus. And it translates to "Mr. Evil Sounding Name", as did all Darths created after Vader.

All the Darths after Vader? Does Darth Vader mean something, then? I always thought he made it up.

[Asta Kask]

I've heard it means "Father" in Dutch. Any Dutch around?

[Danne]

Not Dutch but I'm studying German, and "Vader" is pretty similar to "Vater" meaning "father," so that would make sense. Thanks, Asta Kask. :smallsmile:

[Lateral]

Not Dutch but I'm studying German, and "Vader" is pretty similar to "Vater" meaning "father," so that would make sense. Thanks, Asta Kask. :smallsmile:

I've heard it means "Father" in Dutch. Any Dutch around?

... And "pater" is father in latin...
Wow! Random Star Wars fridge logic tangent!

[Danne]

Though it must have been a huge spoiler for anyone who saw the movie and understood what the name meant. "Luke, I am your father!" "Well, duh, that's what your name means!"

[Vinyadan]

Wow, this is the best off topic linguistics discussion I ever met. I am now supressing the instinct of going even more off topic explaining why it is pater in Latin and father in English. All praise Star Wars and OotS for such a circumstance: involuntarily helping spreading knowledge!

Just to say a on-topic thing: I think Elan's father had another child with a ogre and this half-ogre had a child with a blue bragon, and this child is now a bounty hunter. Tyrannis may be the blue dragon.

[Asta Kask]

Father, vater, and the others are derived from the proto-Indo-European *ph2tēr. The proto-Indo-Europans quickly discovered that you can't actually pronounce a number and evolved into different languages.

[Danne]

Wow, this is the best off topic linguistics discussion I ever met. I am now supressing the instinct of going even more off topic explaining why it is pater in Latin and father in English. All praise Star Wars and OotS for such a circumstance: involuntarily helping spreading knowledge!

*pokes you* I'd actually be interested in that explanation. :smalltongue:

[darthava]

Wel im from Netherland so I can help you guys out.

Vader is indeed father in dutch.

Altough darth Vader got his name for how he invaded and corrupted the jedi council/tempel(Vader being short for INvader.)

I hope this helped. :)