Halaster
2010-05-07, 02:52 AM
I'm sure this has been asked a few times already, but either the forum search is broken, or my browser is. Anyway, I am a little confused about the whole epic level thing. Mostly because whoever wrote it seems to be confused too.
So, let me explain what I did understand:
1. There's character level (all levels added up) and class level (only the levels in one class). Fine.
2. When you exceed class level twenty, your class progresses differently. Fine.
3. When you exceed character level twenty, you are epic, and everything suddenly progresses differently. Huh?
You see where my problem lies? The epic level rules use character levels for one part of the time and class level for another. That doesn't go very well together.
Example: I play a Barbarian/Sorcerer/Dragon Disciple in a current game. Now, if things go as I think they will, this guy will hit level 20 in roughly this combination: Bbn 6/Src 8/ Drg 6 or something similar.
If I get the epic rules right, that character can never
cast 5th level spells
grow wings
have an indomitable will
because these are all one-time-features of his classes, or spellcasting progression, and both stop happening at character level 20, regardless of class level.
So, questions:
1. is that so, or am I just imagining it?
2. if so, why? Why can't characters just progress in their classes like they used to, beyond level 20? I understand that if you never multiclass, there wouldn't be a progression, so you need to use epic. But for multiclass characters that don't need to use that, why force them to?
So, let me explain what I did understand:
1. There's character level (all levels added up) and class level (only the levels in one class). Fine.
2. When you exceed class level twenty, your class progresses differently. Fine.
3. When you exceed character level twenty, you are epic, and everything suddenly progresses differently. Huh?
You see where my problem lies? The epic level rules use character levels for one part of the time and class level for another. That doesn't go very well together.
Example: I play a Barbarian/Sorcerer/Dragon Disciple in a current game. Now, if things go as I think they will, this guy will hit level 20 in roughly this combination: Bbn 6/Src 8/ Drg 6 or something similar.
If I get the epic rules right, that character can never
cast 5th level spells
grow wings
have an indomitable will
because these are all one-time-features of his classes, or spellcasting progression, and both stop happening at character level 20, regardless of class level.
So, questions:
1. is that so, or am I just imagining it?
2. if so, why? Why can't characters just progress in their classes like they used to, beyond level 20? I understand that if you never multiclass, there wouldn't be a progression, so you need to use epic. But for multiclass characters that don't need to use that, why force them to?