Bwaha what.

[AstralFire]

So there's this guy, he's a friendly acquaintance - we have casual friends, he seems nice enough, he's trying to get me into roleplaying in this setting based off of an anime or a game or w/e.

And he opens up with, "I have the perfect character for you. I'll tell you this. She's known to be the "Perfect House Wife." Since she knows how to cook, and fight... She has a little Disney Princess thing going on, summoning animals to fight with her..."

I know I like to play characters on the frilly side, but what? XD Seriously? "I have the perfect character for you, it's a housewife!"

Seriously?

Can't stop laughing...

[The Rose Dragon]

If the game you're going to be playing is by any chance Maid, that is actually pretty overpowered if you go with the implications.

Especially if the game is a favor race.

[Comet]

Pistols at dawn!

[AstralFire]

If the game you're going to be playing is by any chance Maid, that is actually pretty overpowered if you go with the implications.

Especially if the game is a favor race.

No. I wouldn't touch that game with a ten-foot-pole.

[The Glyphstone]

Chainsaws at dawn!

Fixed that for you.

[The Rose Dragon]

Hey! Don't insult Maid! It's awesome!

[Leecros]

Housewives are particularly potent with their rolling pins
http://cr4.globalspec.com/PostImages/200803/wife_rolling_pin_95ABB372-06CC-13B3-F32F9DD93992AEC2.jpg

[AstralFire]

Hey! Don't insult Maid! It's awesome!

I have no interest in roleplaying as ... all of the delightful things that culture envisions domestics doing. :|

[The Rose Dragon]

Like fighting extradimensional monsters, seducing their boss, saving the world from falling into the mouth of hell, foiling criminal plots and making sure the dinner is served on time?

[Tavar]

I have no interest in roleplaying as ... all of the delightful things that culture envisions domestics doing. :|

Umm...correct me if I'm wrong, but Japan doesn't expect their domestics to fight off giant robots or the like.

[AstralFire]

Pretty much.

[Leecros]

Like fighting extradimensional monsters, seducing their boss, saving the world from falling into the mouth of hell, foiling criminal plots and making sure the dinner is served on time?

and still have time to gossip about the latest soaps.


edit:

Umm...correct me if I'm wrong, but Japan doesn't expect their domestics to fight off giant robots or the like.

didn't you know? fighting off giant robots is a Rite of Passage for Domestics everywhere(not just japan)

[Tavar]

Pretty much.

I wasn't aware that Japan had frequent Giant Robot attacks. Man, that puts the whole genre in a whole new light.:smallannoyed:

Also, I don't see why you're so agreeable to DnD, after all it is all about Satanism...

[AstralFire]

I wasn't aware that Japan had frequent Giant Robot attacks. Man, that puts the whole genre in a whole new light.:smallannoyed:

Also, I don't see why you're so agreeable to DnD, after all it is all about Satanism...

Pretty much was to the Rose Dragon.

I'm not interested in that.

[The Rose Dragon]

Well, if it helps, Maid can be used in any scenario where you are subordinates to some higher authority / boss person.

For example, it makes for a great game of House M.D. Assuming none of you play House. The butler would probably be Wilson.

[Leecros]

For example, it makes for a great game of House M.D. Assuming none of you play House. The butler would probably be Wilson.

...

...

that would be so AWESOME!!!

I want to go around beating people into the ground with a cane!!

is there a House M.D. game?:smallconfused:

[AstralFire]

Not a focus that typically appeals to me, if my responses haven't made that clear. What advantage does it have over any other system that makes it so wonderful for those kinds of games?

[Tavar]

Not a focus that typically appeals to me, if my responses haven't made that clear. What advantage does it have over any other system that makes it so wonderful for those kinds of games?

Your responses really didn't. So, is the problem that your character is in a subordinate position to someone else? Seems narrowing.

[Froogleyboy]

Look, people, he doesn't like the damned game, don't attack him for it

[The Rose Dragon]

We're not attacking him. If you realize, he's the one who originally attacked the game. I'm just trying to understand why.

[AstralFire]

Your responses really didn't. So, is the problem that your character is in a subordinate position to someone else? Seems narrowing.

As a focus it's one of many things I don't like, and a major thing. My Jedi takes orders from the Jedi Council and the Republic Government, certainly, but they're not typically a forefront active presence or motivation. They hand me missions and a code of conduct in the service of my character's ideals.

EDIT: I wasn't aware, "I wouldn't touch the game with a ten-foot-pole," and "I don't appreciate all of the lovely things associated with domestics," counted as an attack so much as a giant "not interested," considering this topic wasn't about the system but fine, if you want to discuss it, we'll go ahead.

[Leecros]

As a focus it's one of many things I don't like, and a major thing. My Jedi takes orders from the Jedi Council and the Republic Government, certainly, but they're not typically a forefront active presence or motivation. They hand me missions and a code of conduct in the service of my character's ideals.

so the issue is that you don't like the idea of the organization you're a subordinate to following you around?

maybe i'm just confused from having a House-Happy moment...

[Froogleyboy]

We're not attacking him. If you realize, he's the one who originally attacked the game. I'm just trying to understand why.

I'm sorry. I realize you guys are just wondering why he doesn't like the game, and I'm not saying his attack on the game was justified. I've never played the game so I wouldn't know if it was good or not. I'm just not in the greatest mood today, and for that I apologize.

[AstralFire]

so the issue is that you don't like the idea of the organization you're a subordinate to following you around?

maybe i'm just confused from having a House-Happy moment...

I don't want to be part of a harem anime, I find the trappings of the genre (which is referenced on the maid site/seducing your boss) to be stupid, and I don't want to be part of a game where I am a servant. I'm still awaiting what's so advantageous about this system for enabling games specifically where you're a bunch of subordinates.

[Castaras]

Hey! Don't insult Maid! It's awesome!

Macho women with guns is better.

[Tavar]

EDIT: I wasn't aware, "I wouldn't touch the game with a ten-foot-pole," and "I don't appreciate all of the lovely things associated with domestics,"
The first implies that there's something deeply wrong with the game, guiding your action to not associate with it. Very much of an attack.

Your second response sounded remarkably similar to the standard "DnD is Satanism!!1!1!", in that it seemed to completely miss the point of the whole game.

Also, aren't you getting it backwards? Your character serves the Code's Ideals, not the other way around.

[The Rose Dragon]

Macho women with guns is better.

Ah, the game that gave the world Adolf Hitler - Porn Star. Any game with an adventure named Adolf Hitler - Porn Star must be an instant classic.

Not that I would know, never having played it or read its books.

[Domochevsky]

The first implies that there's something deeply wrong with the game, guiding your action to not associate with it. Very much of an attack.

Your second response sounded remarkably similar to the standard "DnD is Satanism!!1!1!", in that it seemed to completely miss the point of the whole game.

Also, aren't you getting it backwards? Your character serves the Code's Ideals, not the other way around.

Actually, i think it more implies that he, y'know, is not interested in the game and what it does. No attack there. >_>

Also, you're the one who brought "DnD = Satanism" into this thread. Not sure why.

Thirdly, wasn't this thread about the statement "Hey, a housewife! Awesome character for you!"? :smallconfused:

[AstralFire]

The first implies that there's something deeply wrong with the game, guiding your action to not associate with it. Very much of an attack.

Your second response sounded remarkably similar to the standard "DnD is Satanism!!1!1!", in that it seemed to completely miss the point of the whole game.

Also, aren't you getting it backwards? Your character serves the Code's Ideals, not the other way around.

The Code's Ideals are my character's ideals. They can be used interchangeably. I didn't attack the game, considering I didn't bring it up. I don't want to associate with the game, no, I find the entirety of the domestic/harem genres to be distasteful - and near as I can tell, that is what the game was made for, considering the first page examples and the fact that it's called 'Maid'.

[Leecros]

I don't want to be part of a harem anime, I find the trappings of the genre (which is referenced on the maid site/seducing your boss) to be stupid, and I don't want to be part of a game where I am a servant. I'm still awaiting what's so advantageous about this system for enabling games specifically where you're a bunch of subordinates.

ah, well that makes sense and i agree with you. I know that i wouldn't want to be part of anyones harem

granted i never play female characters in any game...so i'm not really a great gauge on the subject.

[The Rose Dragon]

I feel sad ever bringing Maid up now. Also morbidly curious what other game actually supports the character Astral outlined.

[AstralFire]

I feel sad ever bringing Maid up now. Also morbidly curious what other game actually supports the character Astral outlined.

Freeform RP, it's a character from Sengoku Basara, which is some sort of video game and anime series. I have some friends who play in it and they are trying to convince me to join them. I found the guy's opening pitch to be so... sincere and awkward it was hilarious. Right now I'm trying to find out more about the setting since I don't feel I know enough one way or the other to make a decision. It's not something I'm inherently interested in, but friends make everything better.

[Leecros]

Freeform RP, it's a character from Sengoku Basara, which is some sort of video game and anime series. I have some friends who play in it and they are trying to convince me to join them. I found the guy's opening pitch to be so... sincere and awkward it was hilarious. Right now I'm trying to find out more about the setting since I don't feel I know enough one way or the other to make a decision. It's not something I'm inherently interested in, but friends make everything better.
...
Sengoku Basara

now i understand your reluctance...

[RandomNPC]

what about Space Pirate Alien Ninja Catgirls? also known as S.P.A.N.C. granted I know nothing of the game, i just saw an oppertunity to put that into a post.

granted I'd like to crack the books on spanc and maids just to see what the game mechanics are.

And to stir the pot, any game where the heroes go somewhere and an NPC says "Here's a Quest!" could be refered to as a subordinate game to some degree, but what I gather from maids is that the boss is just about always on scene.

Immagine playing D&D and after fighting off goblins, ogres, and a feindish dire moose, you've got to cook up that dire moose and serve it to someone rich who expects it to be fancy and perfect. Is that about the extent of maids?

[AstralFire]

I know nothing about it. Do feel free to enlighten me, if you would. :) I'm honestly not expecting to be intrigued, but I want to give it a fair shake.

[The Rose Dragon]

Immagine playing D&D and after fighting off goblins, ogres, and a feindish dire moose, you've got to cook up that dire moose and serve it to someone rich who expects it to be fancy and perfect. Is that about the extent of maids?

Well... no, not really. The default assumption is that you are simply maids who are supposed to take care of the household and the master, and the world is simply that crazy that a simple task like heating the soup can become an exercise in interdimensional diplomacy.

Also, your master can be a crossdressing lesbian vampire from hell. Which is OK, since you are an android catgirl on the run from your former mafia bosses.

The default assumption is rarely used straight, however. For every straight Maid game I have seen or heard of, I've seen or heard of twenty "But you're not maids" kind of games.

[AstralFire]

It's pretty much the default setting - which I actively dislike - and it's a mechanical system built around things I don't care for, causing an overall negative reaction from me. I've seen the MAID games run here, I'm aware they're usually different settings. I dislike the default enough to not want to propagate it at all.

[Devils_Advocate]

MAID sounds very interesting to me, but I can see why some people might dislike it. I do get the impression that it perhaps allows the players less freedom than many RPGs in some ways. I think that the player characters are even randomly generated, at least by default.

But a "random" feel seems to be a central element to the game, so it makes sense to put the Random Number God in charge. I find it difficult to imagine that I would feel dissatisfied because I was playing an alien ninja superheroine who has to keep an infant's lycanthropy a secret instead of a cyborg catgirl with a sweet tooth who has to fend off poltergeists while doing the laundry.


Look, people, he doesn't like the damned game, don't attack him for it
Inquiring into the basis for an opinion is not an "attack" on the person who professes that opinion.


he's the one who originally attacked the game.
Professing a strong personal aversion to something is not an "attack" on it.


The first implies that there's something deeply wrong with the game
It implies that there's something that Astral strongly dislikes about the game.

It is entirely possible not to be hostile towards likes and dislikes different from one's own, nor to individuals who hold such likes and dislikes, nor to institutions that cater to these different likes and dislikes. I generally recommend such non-hostility, in fact.

If you think that everyone else ought to share your preferences, that's your deal. Don't project that attitude onto others.