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Moon Wolf

2010-06-01, 06:45 PM

The official tag for BleachitP threads is simply . Put that on any threads for this.

Questions and answers:

What is BleachitP anyway?

BleachitP is a FFRP universe which is heavily influenced (read: alternate version of the universe of) by the Japanese manga/anime Bleach.

Okay, but how is it different from, say, the Town or ACRONYM?

It differs in several important ways.
First, it is a lot more uniform that the Town and ACRONYM. BleachitP has Shinigami, Hollows (and Arrancar), Quincys (or it will), Bount and other stuff from Bleach. It does not have, say, cyborgs or sniper kittys.
Second, the plot of BleachitP is more directed. There are the good, the bad, and the ugly, and they are mostly organised. As such, most plots and stuff will be interwoven into one big plot. Or at least that's the way it seems to be heading.
Third, BleachitP is NOT in any way connected to the Town, at least not in the way ACRONYM is. i.e. you cannot have a character travel between the two. If you want a character in BleachitP, it is for BleachitP. You can have a version of the same character for both ACRO/Town and BleachitP, but they are different characters.

How do I start?

Well, you want to post a character in this thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113304), checking that you're not trying for a position that's already taken.
To forestall a pattern which has been emerging for a while, it's good to point out the fact that passive actions don't tend to get much attention here. There have been a few newcomers to the RP lately who've posted once or twice saying that they're walking around doing nothing in particular, then left because they haven't received a response. A lot of characters will either be too busy or in the wrong location to just greet people who they have no reason to engage, which is why these posts tend to be overlooked.
With that in mind, make a post and begin!

There are rules, right?

Yes, there are.
Firstly, no godmodding (or godmoding). A far better explanation of godmodding than I can give is here. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1633965&postcount=5)
Second, please remember that we do have a far more directed plot that ACRO or the Town. Please run any major spanners in the works past us guys on this thread first.
Third, don't ruin anyone else's fun. I can't stress this enough.
Fourth, have fun!

What the hell is going on?

I'm going to let the Man Himself explain this.

Originally posted by [B]Hadrian_Emrys:

The loose plot of the game kicks off ten years after Toho Tohon, then the beloved Shinigami Captain of the 5th Squad (and the game's Aizen), opened the path for a massive Hollow attack on the Seireitei. He has since, with the assistance of Erscheinung Von Geister (the game's Barragan), perfected the process of creating Arroncar with the Hōgyoku, formed the game's version of the Espada, and founded Las Noches as its capitol.

Toho's defection was significant in that it also marked the end of the game's QuinShin War, in which the Shinigami were systematically wiping out the Quincy for their use of power to, as it was then understood, destroy souls altogether rather than just drastically slowing down the rebirth process. The strike on the home front, as well as the atrocities committed during the War, lead to Diasuke (the game's Genryūsai, despite being his polar opposite temperamentally) reclaiming the position of Captain-Commander due to both his personal potency and idealistic views.

The game's surviving Quincy are a global secret society that resembles a cross between the Yakuza and the Illuminati, with each region boasting a significant population of Quincy represented by a seated member on the Elder Council. So far, there are two Council members in play. Hitomi Gokudo (from Japan, the home of the Council) and Tsuo Kuroki Sr. from Oceania. In any case, the J-City branch is lead by Ran Gokudo, the new Administrator of Facility 13: The Shrine (a massive R&D lab and home to the Quincy super weapon that was to be used to end the war had the QuinShin Accord* not been signed just before it's creation was complete).

Such is the general lay of the land. In addition, there are later formed factions such as the Bount (who's origins are somewhat similar to canon, though lead by the vile Hans), the Olympians (a group of universe destroying aberrations unique to this game setting, lead by Harubo), the Samsara (another group unique to this setting who's goals are, as of yet, still widely unknown though lead by Lan), the ARC (the American Reaper Corps are the 'Shinigami' of the North American continent locked in a war with the Hollow Gods of the entire South American continent, with the squad in play lead by Liberty Markham), the Fae of Briton (lead by a mean old lawyer), and now a new group of Hollow lead by a Vasto Lorde named Tirano.

*The QuinShin Accord is a document wherein the Quincy, using a technique devised by the combined efforts of the 12th and Kido Corps, alter their inborn powers to send their fallen enemies to a Soul Society rather than disintegrating their soul's spiritron particles. This alteration weakens the Quincy, but makes their powers Soul Society friendly since the extremely slow rate with which fragmented souls (those 'killed' by true Quincy power use) reform and reincarnate is incredibly slow, causing many to still speculate that the damaged souls do not ever fully recover.

((Side note: Given the sheer bulk of sides, I'd personally like to call a formal stop to the addition of new Factions until a fair number of the current ones are culled through PC death, or pulled out of active play.))

New and Improved (but loose) Rules v.1.1!
These "rules" are more loose guidelines that the three active elected OOC-moderators/mediators (Hollow Zaraki (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/member.php?u=24526), Draken (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/member.php?u=25927), and strawberryman (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/member.php?u=41475)) discussed to prevent arguments from breaking out in the OOC. In respect to each and every player, character, and the general plot with which character interactions weave, it's greatly appreciated if people keep these in mind with posts pertaining to BleachitP.

Consider asking to join in fights before jumping in.
As a result of several flocks of people joining into fights, and said fights becoming... unwieldy at best, and a complete cluster**** at the worst, please respect that all plots might not be open. Alternatively, if you yourself want to keep a fight cordoned off from other participants, say so in the OOC, at the beginning of your post, or both.
TALK major fights over with your opponent!
This is to keep arguments about who's the better fighter, who should win, blablablablabla, out of the OOC. Of course, talk these things over in PM, or some kind of IM service. While arguments might break out over said PM/IM... It keeps it out of the OOC. Which is what we're trying to do here. On that note...
Don't argue in the OOC!
That's the whole reason we were elected. To keep conflicts out of the OOC. They make the atmosphere oppressive, they make things less fun, and generally unpleasant and maybe even make the arguments larger than they need be. So, if you have a problem with someone, try to talk it out in PM or IM before using the OOC. And we highly recommend using one of the above listed mediators as a... well, mediator, via PM forwarding or shared IM chatrooms.

These guidelines/loose rules might be viable to change or be added on to as issues come up, but the bases are covered pretty well.

Have fun guys! :smallsmile:

Previous Threads:

OOC I (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113302)
OOC II (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115061)
OOC III (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115947)
OOC IV: Revenge of the Tentacle!! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116822)
OOC V (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117383)
OOC VI (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118299)
OOC VII (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120110)
OOC VIII (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121299)
OOC IX (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122412)
OOC X (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124789)
OOC XI (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126740)
OOC XII (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127951)
OOC XIII (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128476)
OOC XIV (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130185)
OOC XV (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134757)
OOC XVI (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140344)
OOC XVII (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143646)
OOC XVIII (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145048)
OOC XIX (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147242)

Shinigami Leader: Hayashi Daisuke, played by horngeek.
{table]Division|Duties|Captain|Vice-Captain
1st| No special duties have been noted for the 1st Division, other than their Captain being the Captain-Commander of the Gotei 13.|Hayashi Daisuke|Izumito Akira
2nd| The 2nd Division being directly tied in with the Onmitsukidō, each of the top 5 seated officers is in charge of a certain division of the latter. For example the 3rd Seat is in charge of the Detention Unit. The 2nd Division also acts as the covert police in the mortal world and Soul Society working directly with the 8th Division|Satoshi Tsukami|Ryuunosuke Kenji
3rd| The 3rd Division in the past was the Execution Division. It is unknown if they have kept these duties.|Maeda Katsuhito|
4th| The 4th Division is the medical/supply division. They are responsible for both treating the injured and doing most manual labor such as cleaning Seireitei. Because of this, they have keys to most of the buildings and know the underground sewer system well. According to various members of the 11th Division, 4th Division members are rather weak at combat instead using their power to heal. The 4th Division is further divided into teams that have specific assigned jobs. They also seem to be in charge of general mantinence of Soul Society and its environs.|Taniko|Xavier Adam Ryder
5th|The 5th Division looks after general communication and the paths for Hell Butterflies. It is also important to note that the 5th Division has a long history for its potent and skilled Captain's||Kishihaiiro Mejiri
6th| The 6th Division is an all purpose Division, filling roles through out Soul Society where and when needed.|Shiaki Koujin|Damara Shishihara
7th| The 7th Division oversees the duties of transportation between the Rokun and Soul Society, both of food and people. They are also the main couriers of Soul Society, and over see general logistics. |Hara Tai |The Brothers Grim
8th| The Police of Soul Society|Darius Kiljaeran
9th| The 9th Division is known as the Central Intelligence Unit. They work along with the 12th to gather, and then Store information. The 9th Division is well known as the Recon Division, utilizing their extensive information network to its full potential|Aiko Honoka|Ito Makato
10th| No special duties have been noted for the 10th Division.|Vince|Lien
11th| The Eleventh Division is the melee combat Division with a specialization in swords-only combat, forgoing the other Shinigami arts. It is mentioned that it is tradition for the current Kenpachi, the title held by the best swordsman in Soul Society, to hold the position of Eleventh Division Captain.|Shirubaru Reishiro|Cecilia
12th| Than the 12th Division's connection to the Shinigami Research and Development Institute, Members are tasked with research and collection of data and samples, and the Captain is the President of the R&D Institute.|Kinkuzo Kukakya|Lexandra Kaizuki
13th| The 13th Division is in charge of normal patrols in the Mortal World for Hollow Activity.|Siegfried Bieber|
Kidō Corps| The Kidō Corps is responsible for opening the senkaimon, the gate between the human world and Soul Society. Among their duties also stand the creation, manutention and activation of mystic artifacts (such as the Sokyoku itself). Traditionally the head of house Kotetsu takes the job of Kidõ Commander. It is also important to note that the Kido Corp. researchs and furthers the study of Kido.|Hideki Kotetsu|Oboro Kuenai[/table]

Espada Leader: Toho, played by Hadrian Emrys (primarily).

{table]Title|Espada/Arrancar|Fraccion
God of Hueco Mundo|Toho Tohon|Everyone
Primera|Marro Kassagrad|Vinoly Rafella, Ambroz Tommasoro, Maria Jujulla, Legoretta Bofill, Sana-Rita, Raimondo Raonco, Teodemiro Alencar, Santago Kalatra
Segunda|Takeshi|Leonardo, Alonso, Julia, Adilla
Tercera|Elizabeth Rosemarie|Nakamura Amaya, Kenshin Noriko, Ruy Crecendiero
Cuatra|Erscheinung Von Geister|Helena, Mia, Sandra, Gabrielle
Quinta|Kira|Nico, Sora
Sexta|Carcharadon Drakefast|Koyama
Septima|Empty|Empty
Octava|Kinezumi Aritza|Donata Pantera, Alivise Gigantesco, Francessco Vega
Novena|Polilla Mentiralas|Lance Delaney
Decima|Juro|Empty[/table]

{table]Position|Members|Role
Exequias|Theresa Alvarado|Internal Police of the Espada and Las Noches
Templarios|Vicenzo Scamozo, Oscar Meyers, Imhotep, Gabrielle Von Geister|The Templarios hunt down, capture or kill defectors from Toho's Army. Answers only to Toho and Von Geister
Privaron|None|Gaurds of Las Noches[/table]

Quincy Leader: Ran'kang'yi Gokudo, played by Innis Cabal.
Samsara Leader: Lan Jia, played by Callos DeTerran.

And we even have a wiki! (http://bleachitp.wikidot.com/)(password for editing is 'foamy')

A NOTE: PLEASE POST ALL EPISODE THREAD LINKS IN THE MAIN OOC THREAD. THANK YOU.
-MANAGEMENT

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-01, 09:06 PM

Reposting my offer to Strawberry for Koujin to fight Liz. Also, the suggestion for Damara and Ruy to fight.

Draken

2010-06-01, 09:11 PM

The ball is now on berry's court. Any further stalling is all on his shoulders. :smallbiggrin:

Suffer, suffer and agonize under the pressure, strawberryman.

strawberryman

2010-06-01, 09:17 PM

I guess. *shrugs*

The Librarian

2010-06-01, 09:34 PM

Woot! We used my title.:smallbiggrin::smalltongue:

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-01, 10:03 PM

I guess. *shrugs*

:smallconfused: Would you prefer to fight someone else? I'm not forcing you or anything...

strawberryman

2010-06-01, 10:08 PM

Eh, just feel there could be someone with more of a connection to Liz in the battle, but, don't want to be picky, that just slows things down.

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-01, 10:12 PM

well...who knows Liz from her life as a Shinigami?

Draken

2010-06-01, 10:13 PM

strawberryman

2010-06-01, 10:18 PM

Elizabeth goes in first and meets Daisuke, then the two split ways to meet other opponents when Toho comes down?

Would have more impact.

Edit: There is also Aiko who knew her. Raithe and Giriko were options but they died.

...Except she's kind of driving the ship. :smalltongue:

...also, yeah, there's really no one that fits the bill who's still in the main plot. ...well, aside from Daisuke, who would hand Liz her own rear.

horngeek

2010-06-01, 10:20 PM

Elizabeth goes in first and meets Daisuke, then the two split ways to meet other opponents when Toho comes down?

Would have more impact.

Edit: There is also Aiko who knew her. Raithe and Giriko were options but they died.

A talk on why she's doing this! :smallbiggrin:

Speaking of which, Draken, before Daisuke vs. Toho starts, Daisuke will be asking him why he's doing all this. So, we could potentially have a battle of words before a battle of swords.

I dunno, I just like the image.

Draken

2010-06-01, 10:52 PM

horngeek, you are talking to a man who just loves to be verbose. A man who likes combat to have a meaning, even if, mostly, that meaning has been curbstomp up until now. I like to lay down the foundation, to build from the bottom, to craft a scene from the ground up.

So yes, there will be a speech. Goddamnit, if it weren't utter Hax, I would give Miradar's sanctuary to all my characters, just because, unlike the rest of you, I love my speeches, I love to hear my own goddamn voice chanting a speech. Just look at this post! I wrote all of this just to say that yes, there will be a battle of words. The only way it could be worse is if I went and used the Mojo Jojo speech. But that just downright bothers me in the copious redundancy.

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-01, 11:08 PM

...Except she's kind of driving the ship. :smalltongue:

...also, yeah, there's really no one that fits the bill who's still in the main plot. ...well, aside from Daisuke, who would hand Liz her own rear.

IMaybe an old/new duality in their fight might work...er...something like that.

Draken

2010-06-01, 11:11 PM

...Except she's kind of driving the ship. :smalltongue:

...also, yeah, there's really no one that fits the bill who's still in the main plot. ...well, aside from Daisuke, who would hand Liz her own rear.

Also. Wuss. Barbossa could drive a ship, while fighting fish people and celebrating a wedding. IN A MAELSTROM. :smalltongue:

KnightDisciple

2010-06-01, 11:12 PM

Also. Wuss. Barbossa could drive a ship, while fighting fish people and celebrating a wedding. IN A MAELSTROM. :smalltongue:Not "celebrating". He was officiating the wedding.:smalltongue:

strawberryman

2010-06-01, 11:23 PM

Also. Wuss. Barbossa could drive a ship, while fighting fish people and celebrating a wedding. IN A MAELSTROM. :smalltongue:

Touche. :smallsigh:

Draken

2010-06-01, 11:24 PM

Not "celebrating". He was officiating the wedding.:smalltongue:

Oh. Little language fail there from my part, I think.

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-01, 11:24 PM

Touche. :smallsigh:
...alright. *poke*

KnightDisciple

2010-06-01, 11:24 PM

Wasn't sure if that was the case. I'm sure he was celebrating as well. But he was the only one officiating. :smallwink:

...alright. *poke*

What's the poke for now?

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-01, 11:30 PM

Touche is french for touch, correct? It's a silly running joke for me-whenever someone says touche, I poke them at their 'request'.:smalltongue:

Shades of Gray

2010-06-02, 10:15 AM

MSH, Berry-San, KD, would you mind if we made Liz vs Koujin a 2v2 by adding Xavier and Noriko to the mix?

KnightDisciple

2010-06-02, 10:20 AM

MSH, Berry-San, KD, would you mind if we made Liz vs Koujin a 2v2 by adding Xavier and Noriko to the mix?

More like 2v7 with Noriko's abilities, but I suppose.

Anybody out there have a character they think would work well fighting Amaya (regenerator, uses a cleaver, can make people sick, tell me if I missed something, Sucrose)? I don't want characters getting left out.

Draken

2010-06-02, 10:25 AM

Hmm... Feyan? Moon Wolf was looking for an opponent after all.

Sucrose

2010-06-02, 10:30 AM

Well, beyond that, there's the fact that she's in the very upper tier of Vice Captain physical abilities, with particularly fast sonido. I think you hit on most of the salient points though, KD.:smallwink:

Lorolar

2010-06-02, 01:17 PM

Reposting in case you missed it draken, when are you planning on having our beloved Cuarta send the Octava on his little vengance spree?

Draken

2010-06-02, 01:21 PM

I made a post of Von Geister poking for Kinezumi, did you answer it?

Edit: Went to check, you did not.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-02, 02:34 PM

Connected to this: Is there anything that needs done before that big ship arrives in the sky? If not, then it's time to have it appear in Soul Society.

And for the Climax to Begin! :smallamused:

Moon Wolf

2010-06-02, 02:37 PM

Cue chaos! :smalltongue:

P.S. Who was this arrancar that Feiyan could fight again....?

KnightDisciple

2010-06-02, 02:50 PM

Cue chaos! :smalltongue:

P.S. Who was this arrancar that Feiyan could fight again....?

Sucrose's character Amaya (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6804920&postcount=150).

Callos_DeTerran

2010-06-02, 03:55 PM

In that case, who's doing the intro-post for the strike team in Hueco Mundo? I'd prefer to have a post setting them up there before cracking open the wall. :smallwink:

KnightDisciple

2010-06-02, 04:08 PM

In that case, who's doing the intro-post for the strike team in Hueco Mundo? I'd prefer to have a post setting them up there before cracking open the wall. :smallwink:*Passes Buck*

I'd think either Edge (who I believe is opening the portal) or Zarah (who's pretty good at such things).

Zarah

2010-06-03, 12:38 AM

I shall also pass said buck to Edge, since he's the one handling the actual transition for the characters. However, if he doesn't want to do it, I can whip something up as well.

Edge

2010-06-03, 03:51 AM

I shall take on this heavy responsibility.

Now, if I could have a hard list of who exactly is in the strike team other than Adrian, Team Masato and Callos' captain whose name currently eludes me, then I would be most appreciative.

Fan

2010-06-03, 06:49 AM

I BELIEVE the following are going:

Adrian

Tai (7th division Captain)

Vince (10th division captain)

Koujin (6th division)

Masato

Metta

Natsuko

Tyler

Ami

Feyian

Myoujin (If the player ever actually shows up.)

and.. that's all I really know of. :smallredface:

KnightDisciple

2010-06-03, 09:35 AM

I think Koujin's staying in Soul Society. What with MSH wanting Koujin and Liz to fight, and Liz being in SS and all.

Edit: Pretty sure Moon Wolf had Feiyan staying as well.

As for Myoujin...if CMOT ever actually bothered to post, sure, he could come. As it stands, we'll just assume he's off helping people not die in Soul Society, along with all the other abandoned PCs.

OverWilliam

2010-06-03, 10:50 AM

Unless he is bodily dragged away, Ruy is going to be tagging right along with Liz wherever she goes. Even against her own request, he's not staying out of any fight that she gets into (by choice).

He suspects that she doesn't intend to come back out of this battle alive. And even that thought is tearing him apart inside. He doesn't know what to do, but he's not going to do nothing.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-03, 10:55 AM

OverWilliam

2010-06-03, 10:59 AM

I guess they will. And they will either have to kill him, run away very quickly, or they will die, because Ruy has no inhibitions about such things and he has a LOT to live for.

The Librarian

2010-06-03, 11:00 AM

Katisugo is about to enter the fray.

Toho VS Katisugo?

Dorizzit

2010-06-03, 11:05 AM

I guess they will. And they will either have to kill him, run away very quickly, or they will die, because Ruy has no inhibitions about such things and he has a LOT to live for.

If Damara ends up being his opponent, this won't be a problem. He has no problems with killing.

Sucrose

2010-06-03, 11:05 AM

Katisugo is about to enter the fray.

Toho VS Katisugo?

As I understand it, Toho and the airship are still above Rukon, firing on the walls of the Seireitei. The instant that there is a breach, Siegfried intends to rush through it, and try to cut the airship in half with a very large blade. Naturally, opening a gate would just mean one more entry point for the hollows, and one that Von Geister doesn't have to concentrate on keeping up, so that will be avoided.

OverWilliam

2010-06-03, 11:06 AM

I'll say again; a LOT to live for. :smallfrown:

Draken

2010-06-03, 11:10 AM

As I understand it, Toho and the airship are still above Rukon, firing on the walls of the Seireitei. The instant that there is a breach, Siegfried intends to rush through it, and try to cut the airship in half with a very large blade. Naturally, opening a gate would just mean one more entry point for the hollows, and one that Von Geister doesn't have to concentrate on keeping up, so that will be avoided.

... Actually, given all that happened, I actually had Geister bypass th Rukon entirelly and launch the attach straight into the Seireitei.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-03, 11:11 AM

I guess they will. And they will either have to kill him, run away very quickly, or they will die, because Ruy has no inhibitions about such things and he has a LOT to live for.I guess they'll kill him then. :smallamused:

And by "they", I believe we're meaning "Damara", assuming yourself and Dorizzit agree.

Sucrose

2010-06-03, 11:12 AM

I'll say again; a LOT to live for. :smallfrown:

And so does basically everyone in the game.:smalltongue:

... Actually, given all that happened, I actually had Geister bypass th Rukon entirelly and launch the attach straight into the Seireitei.

Wait, so the airship is inside the Seireitei?:smallconfused:

KnightDisciple

2010-06-03, 11:13 AM

I'll say again; a LOT to live for. :smallfrown:Yeah, what Sucrose said.

Congratulations, he's one of the villains, he's attacking Seireitei, and as Dorizzit said, Damara has no problems using lethal force on him.

The Librarian

2010-06-03, 11:15 AM

Katisugo is about to enter the fray.

Toho VS Katisugo?

Draken, seeing that your in control of Toho, would you be cool with a battle with Katisugo?

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-03, 11:16 AM

so...Koujin, Xavier, Damara vs Liz, Noriko, Ruy?

Sounds like an interesting fight. :smallbiggrin:

KnightDisciple

2010-06-03, 11:19 AM

so...Koujin, Xavier, Damara vs Liz, Noriko, Ruy?

Sounds like an interesting fight. :smallbiggrin:Probably a bit more scattered than that, but yes.

Also, again, for Sucrose's sake, I'll ask if anyone's willing to fight Amaya. I know Feiyan was suggested, but Moon Wolf never really gave a confirmation one way or another.

Draken

2010-06-03, 11:22 AM

OverWilliam

2010-06-03, 11:23 AM

Yeah, what Sucrose said.

Congratulations, he's one of the villains, he's attacking Seireitei, and as Dorizzit said, Damara has no problems using lethal force on him.

I know that. But I'm hoping to have a big reveal in the middle of the battle of exactly how much he has to live for. And while he doesn't have any inhibitions with the whole 'attacking the Seireitei' thing, it still wasn't exactly his choice.

I don't know. We'll see how it works out.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-03, 11:26 AM

I know that. But I'm hoping to have a big reveal in the middle of the battle of exactly how much he has to live for. And while he doesn't have any inhibitions with the whole 'attacking the Seireitei' thing, it still wasn't exactly his choice.

I don't know. We'll see how it works out.:smallconfused::smallconfused:

Dorizzit

2010-06-03, 11:26 AM

There are a large number of possible results. I think a satisfactory conclusion can be reached.

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-03, 11:27 AM

Probably a bit more scattered than that, but yes.

I was just thinking about the possibility of them shuffling around a bit in combat...or something. *shrug*

KnightDisciple

2010-06-03, 11:30 AM

I was just thinking about the possibility of them shuffling around a bit in combat...or something. *shrug*Uh...how about not? I mean, I'm confident Noriko can put up a decent fight, but Koujin might be a bit much for her, especially if she's been working hard fighting Xavier.

And Koujin's probably one of the people better equipped to deal with Liz, when all is said and done.

Sucrose

2010-06-03, 11:36 AM

Yes, the airship is in the airspace of the seireitei. Near the south gate to be precise.

As for a battle with Katisugo, Toho already has to deal with Daisuke and still wait for Masato to get back to the Seireitei, so I think it is best... Not. Toho will be staying in the ship a while more, to boot, so the only way that could happen is if Katisugo goes and shoves himself in the way when he leaves te ship to face Daisuke or does the incredibly dumb thing of invading the ship.

And I will be off for lunch any time now.

Huh. In that case, gonna need to post Siegfried actually acting, then.

OW, that could be dramatic, but do remember that Ruy and Liz's romance is ultimately only one among many stories. Stories that we are all cutting short in order to give the game a proper conclusion, rather than allowing it to stagnate.

strawberryman

2010-06-03, 11:54 AM

...One thing I'd like to know, does anyone even know Toho is there? The plans should all point to "no", especially if he's hiding his reiatsu. :smallconfused: Plus, if certain members of the assault squad knew (Masato), would they really run off to Hueco Mundo?

The Librarian

2010-06-03, 12:12 PM

Yes, the airship is in the airspace of the seireitei. Near the south gate to be precise.

As for a battle with Katisugo, Toho already has to deal with Daisuke and still wait for Masato to get back to the Seireitei, so I think it is best... Not. Toho will be staying in the ship a while more, to boot, so the only way that could happen is if Katisugo goes and shoves himself in the way when he leaves te ship to face Daisuke or does the incredibly dumb thing of invading the ship.

And I will be off for lunch any time now.

Then, I've really got no one to fight...so I guess. Sucrose, wanna double team?

Sucrose

2010-06-03, 12:30 PM

Then, I've really got no one to fight...so I guess. Sucrose, wanna double team?

I'll address this this evening, when I get back from training a newb.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-03, 02:01 PM

Just FYI Lorolar, if he asked an unseated, he'd know Kiljaeran's not acting Captain or anything.

He might also notice the dude running the rooftops towards the airship. The one who's Darius Kiljaeran.:smallwink:

I mean, if you realize this and still want him to ransack 8th...it'll probably be half-empty.:smallwink: What with people out evacuating the Rukon and such.

Frozen_Feet

2010-06-03, 02:08 PM

Should I just assume the infernals have standing orders to go all out?

Lorolar

2010-06-03, 02:33 PM

KnightDisciple

2010-06-03, 03:09 PM

Logically, knowing he was former captain, its a good place to start trying to get attention. Its not like an unseated will lead him straight to him is it? :smalltongue:

Its not unreasonable to plan on Kiljaeren trying to protect the 8th.

Just making sure we're on the same page.

You'll forgive my tic about just going around destroying parts of the Seireitei. :smallwink:

Also, per my first IC "reaction" post, there's likely at least a few guards of unseated or lower/mid seated level around the HQ. Offhand, Anyr can probably give us a better picture of that.

OverWilliam

2010-06-03, 03:57 PM

Huh. In that case, gonna need to post Siegfried actually acting, then.

OW, that could be dramatic, but do remember that Ruy and Liz's romance is ultimately only one among many stories. Stories that we are all cutting short in order to give the game a proper conclusion, rather than allowing it to stagnate.

I know, guys, I know how this works. You're overreacting. :smallbiggrin: I'm not trying to put any special preference on my characters over others... but let's be honest. We all want our characters to have happy endings, even if we know they can't, or have agreed to give them something else. I'm prepared to accept whatever comes... but I know what I want to happen, even if I'm going to play fair whether or not it happens that way.

Sucrose

2010-06-03, 04:20 PM

Should I just assume the infernals have standing orders to go all out?

That would be reasonable, yes.

Now that I'm back: Righty, the principal difficulty is that we already have a bit of a plan for how the fight could go. That said, I think there may be one possible solution; check your PM's momentarily.

Edit: Fair enough, OW. I probably was overreacting a bit.:smallsmile:

You're right, as well: I do want my characters to have happy endings, even if I know that a few of them simply won't get them.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-03, 04:30 PM

Takeshi notices Siegfried heading towards the ship... and his eyes narrow. He disappears, and appears in the Captain's path. "Sorry, but I can't let you do that."

Daisuke, meanwhile, is yet to make his move.Can't let you do that, Siegfried (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05iiSzGDWY4).:smallamused:

horngeek

2010-06-03, 05:10 PM

By the way, I will be not on for.. a significant portion of the next week. Getting back on on Tuesday, late, probably.

From tonight.

Sucrose

2010-06-03, 05:16 PM

By the way, I will be not on for.. a significant portion of the next week. Getting back on on Tuesday, late, probably.

From tonight.

All right. Hope whatever you're doing in the coming week is entertaining.

horngeek

2010-06-03, 06:21 PM

First two days, church camp.

Second two days, funeral.

Sucrose

2010-06-03, 06:30 PM

First two days, church camp.

Second two days, funeral.

Well, I'm sorry to hear about the second two days.:smallfrown:

The Librarian

2010-06-03, 06:32 PM

Well, I'm sorry to hear about the second two days.:smallfrown:

And for the First two days:smalltongue: I kid, last time I did Church Camp I had a good time.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-03, 06:38 PM

Well, I'm sorry to hear about the second two days.:smallfrown:As am I.

I hope the first 2 days are as pleasant as possible.

horngeek

2010-06-03, 06:41 PM

Thanks, guys. :smallsmile:

Dorizzit

2010-06-03, 06:42 PM

What Sucrose and Knight said.

Moon Wolf

2010-06-03, 06:59 PM

To add another skip onto the broken record: what Sucrose and KnightD and Dorizzit said. :smallsmile:

OverWilliam

2010-06-03, 07:08 PM

What Moon Wolf and Sucrose and KnightD and Dorizzit said. :smallcool:

Moon Wolf

2010-06-03, 07:10 PM

P.S. I've decided that Feiyan isn't going to fight, just heal people. There's quite a few people fighting here. :smallcool:

KnightDisciple

2010-06-03, 07:12 PM

P.S. I've decided that Feiyan isn't going to fight, just heal people. There's quite a few people fighting here. :smallcool:There are a lot of people. On both sides. Granted, we're still doing "matchups", but I'd figured you'd maybe at least want a shot. We'll compensate, I'm sure.

Moon Wolf

2010-06-03, 07:16 PM

I know, but I'm not really sure who's 'available' for Fey to fight at the moment who would be at around her level. But I'm still sticking with the fact that after the war's over, she'll go around healing absolutely everything from the SS that breathes (or not). :smalltongue:

OverWilliam

2010-06-03, 07:18 PM

Dorizzt and I have been plotting a bit concerning Ruy and Damara's matchup, and we've had an idea.

Is there anyone who would be absolutely opposed to having their fights interrupted briefly by the two of them "just playing through?" :smallwink: :smallbiggrin:

Given the two of our characters' fighting styles and ultimate goals in the fight, we think it would be cool to have a running fight-- instead of staying in any one corner of the battlefield, we'd essentially be relying on mobility and speed to bounce around all over it, and getting in everybody else's way for a moment or two while doing it. :smallbiggrin: Typically nothing more than getting caught in the crossfire and having to fight around the other combatants, but occasionally they might block an attack headed for one of their allies before moving on or accidentally catch an opponent in a little bit of crossfire. Hopefully nothing to shift balance overmuch in either direction, just to add a little unpredictability to the battlefield and give the illusion at least that everyone's in the same fight. :smallbiggrin:

Moon Wolf

2010-06-03, 07:21 PM

Don't do that to Feiyan, unless you want to be facing the business end of a hissy fit. :smalltongue::smallbiggrin:

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-03, 07:22 PM

I am all for that idea. :smallbiggrin: As long as Strawberry is alright with it, feel free.

Frozen_Feet

2010-06-03, 07:29 PM

Whoever Orcos and Samael end up fighting, Ryu and Damara can stop for a visit. :smallbiggrin:

Anyr

2010-06-03, 07:29 PM

By all means; The more the merrier.

horngeek

2010-06-03, 07:31 PM

I accept. :smalltongue:

OverWilliam

2010-06-03, 07:38 PM

I am all for that idea. :smallbiggrin: As long as Strawberry is alright with it, feel free.

Well, unfortunately you and Strawberry will be the exception. The idea is, the only way Damara got Ruy on a one-on-one fight to begin with was (or, will be) by forceably separating the two. Ruy isn't interested in an individual fight and just wants to get back to Liz, which is a goal that Damara is blocking him from. The dancing all over the battlefield will be centered around Liz and Koujin, with Ruy trying to dodge around Damara and leave him behind while Damara refuses to let him get away that easy. :smallwink:

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-03, 07:44 PM

Ahhhh. That makes sense. Still, Tirano/Escher fight is fine to pass through.

OverWilliam

2010-06-03, 07:45 PM

Thank ye. :smallbiggrin:

KnightDisciple

2010-06-03, 07:52 PM

Dorizzit

2010-06-03, 07:53 PM

I'd rather Satoshi was able to concentrate on fighting Marro and his Fraccion.

Understandable.

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-03, 07:53 PM

So it isn't missed...
There are currently eight super-dense bowling balls blasting toward the tercera and crew. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8622669&postcount=598)

Moon Wolf

2010-06-03, 07:55 PM

Amaya....hm, okay. I'll go and find her in the wiki, read up on her stats....I have to deadtime soon though.

strawberryman

2010-06-03, 07:58 PM

So it isn't missed...
There are currently eight super-dense bowling balls blasting toward the tercera and crew. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8622669&postcount=598)

...fixed. In fact, it was always there. >_>

KnightDisciple

2010-06-03, 07:59 PM

Amaya....hm, okay. I'll go and find her in the wiki, read up on her stats....I have to deadtime soon though.

Character registry entry (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6804920&postcount=150). Bam.

Moon Wolf

2010-06-03, 08:02 PM

Just read her through Sucrose's signature. A zombie-lady? Nice. :smalltongue:

Feiyan'll have fun with this one.

(For background reading, go to your local library and check out Pride and Prejudice and Zombies. :smallbiggrin: )

Callos_DeTerran

2010-06-03, 08:49 PM

As I've said in the NarutoITP OOC, I'm saying again here. I managed to break my leg today and have little/no access to my computer right now. I'm actually posting from a labtop right now that I'm not used to using. My posting may slacken off a bit, but luckily I don't have much to post after the initial 'cracking of the wall' which I shall post shortly.

Sucrose

2010-06-03, 08:55 PM

Sorry to hear about your leg. Get better soon!

strawberryman

2010-06-03, 08:58 PM

Ouch. Get well soon. :smalleek:

Dorizzit

2010-06-03, 09:06 PM

I hope you heal quickly and with a minimum of pain.

Fan

2010-06-03, 09:12 PM

Posted for Gaidoku and Vince...

Vince be waiting on the two of Drakens minions that he's supposed to fight with Tai.

Gaidoku is waiting on.. whoever he's scheduled to fight which I BELIEVE was Juro.

Draken

2010-06-03, 09:15 PM

Eeeh. We sent Juro to lead the rank and file in the Seireitei because of his playerlessness. Better look for someone else.

Fan

2010-06-03, 09:16 PM

*face palm*

Well, who else is available?

Draken

2010-06-03, 09:21 PM

Well...

Hmm...

No one I can think of... That has a player anyway. There is the Septima Espada, but she is playerless.

Fan

2010-06-03, 09:22 PM

Ah yes, because Artemis Dreamer dropped...

Darn people, and their dropping with pre planned events.

Hmm, well, I guess I'll just have him fight the Mook Sqaud, or would someone be willing to PM Artemis, and see if she'd lend God Mode rights?

OverWilliam

2010-06-03, 09:23 PM

Whelp guys, I'm deadtiming for the night.

Heh.

That brings back memories. :smallbiggrin:

KnightDisciple

2010-06-03, 09:24 PM

Pretty sure she hasn't been on the boards since that last post of hers.

Draken

2010-06-03, 09:36 PM

The Librarian

2010-06-03, 09:50 PM

Callos_DeTerran

2010-06-03, 09:53 PM

*grumbles* Stupid people posting while I'm in the middle of a post...

Also, Tai is going fightless because she'll be focusing on the 'meta' aspect of the fight as in suppressing those hollow/arrancar who don't actually pose a challenge to the assault team but could slow them down.

In other words, Vince should have a fun time fighting those two himself.:smallamused: But he is a Captain, I expect great things from him.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-03, 10:01 PM

Draken

2010-06-03, 10:22 PM

Well, there are Tai's opponents in this case. :smalltongue:

Think Old Man Fear ever had problems satisfying his mate? Think again.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-03, 10:25 PM

Well, there are Tai's opponents in this case. :smalltongue:

Think Old Man Fear ever had problems satisfying his mate? Think again.

Right. I suppose Viral fights the Xenomorphs, and Vince proves why he's a Captain.

Draken

2010-06-03, 10:27 PM

Wasn't Tai going to face the enemies that bog down the rest of the action?

These are them. Everything else worth of note went to the Seireitei.

Callos_DeTerran

2010-06-03, 10:36 PM

I said what Tai would be doing mostly as a way of strategically saying 'She's saving herself for when she's needed' because simply directing the sake doesn't take much out of her.:smallwink:

That said, her abilities are well suited for mook killing. I'll leave it up to Fan if he wants Gai to fight the xenomorphs or if Tai will.

Draken

2010-06-03, 10:42 PM

Well, I recommend everyone else to scramble towards the city. The mooks are the other way.

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KnightDisciple

2010-06-03, 10:51 PM

Just remember folks. He's not just a Batman Expy (http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr102/KnightDisciple/Satoshi1-1.jpg).
http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr102/KnightDisciple/SatoshiFlash1.jpg
:smallbiggrin::smallbiggrin::smallwink:

Fan

2010-06-04, 05:59 AM

Oh! I have a sort of solution... But it involves leaving Gaidoku pretty much in NPC status after the fact.

I could have Von Geister send drones after the group and Gaidoku stays back to hold them off and make sure the group isn't sandwiched between the wall and Reene's brood, along with whatever arrancar might appear.

He would be left in NPC status because there would be a lot of drones (think Alien drones) and playing out this fight while also considering all the other potential fights would be just a plain hassle.

Also allows you to focus on Vince.

Also means you would be best to consider him DIA.

Hmm, well you see this kinda conflicts with a plan that MSH, and I have made very, very, clear to everyone on multiple occasions.

Namely that the entire point of the character was to bust out a combining Giant Robot...

Is a simple request, and simply requires that Metta and him be in some proximity.

Also, Vince HAS proven why he's a Captain thank you very much, he kinda defended the Sereitei to the point of near death, tried to uphold the law, one of the FEW captains to do so during the execution arc. I'm pretty sure being critically wounded in action twice is a pretty darn good indicator of loyalty. Unlike Captain "I give orders, but I don't follow them." Satoshi.. and don't even pretend that isn't true because your constantly making new people just so you can order some people around (Moon Wolf should know the incident, as should whomever played Jack, especially since you took this seat despite Jack's player asking when he made the character what seats were available, and outright saying he would've taken that seat.), but the second the law becomes something that's an obstacle? You cast it off, and say "F^$@ the chain of command!" even going as far as to (on multiple occasions, and I have many people who would agree with me here as they have experienced it first hand.) have your characters gang up on people.

So please, stop talking crap at every single opportunity, I'm getting tired of this bullying you keep bringing down on anyone you happen to not like OOC, and IC. If you wont, I'm simply going to block you. Enough is Enough. That is not a threat, it is a simple statement of how I'm simply tired of getting CRAP for everything I ever try to do ever IC, and OOC from you, this is not a exaggeration, it has literally been every time I've tried anything VAGUELY involving you, and with the presented compromise of you stop getting on me for everything I do (Literally. There has not been a single thing which you have not made issue with that I have done. Not. A. Single. One.), which I feel is not only unfair of the RP to tolerate, but also bending to accomadate someone for being unfair, something a group as a whole should not have to do for a single person.

Draken

2010-06-04, 07:34 AM

Uh... I am fairly sure KD only meant to say that you would be given the chance to show off Vince's powers, the only time he went to fight was back in Soukyoku Hill after all, no veiled stabs meant.

Anyway, if you want Gaidoku to fight alongside Metta then you will share an opponent and this entire conversation is moot.

Shades of Gray

2010-06-04, 08:30 AM

I'm having computer issues. I can't view the latest page of the Seireitei thread. Could someone please PM it to me or something so I can read it?

KnightDisciple

2010-06-04, 09:35 AM

...Yeah Fan. Draken has the right of it. I meant it as nothing more than "he gets to show off his powers".

But don't hold back, tell us how you really feel!

And be sure to falsely ascribe motive to my various character creations while you're at it! Oh, you already have? Awesome! Way to be a team player, starting a fight that nobody wanted!
**** you.

Frozen_Feet

2010-06-04, 09:45 AM

Hey, no adding fuel to a dying flame there! :smalltongue:

Also, MSH, it'd be nice to know a bit more of what Tirano's doing. :smallwink:

KnightDisciple

2010-06-04, 09:49 AM

Hey, no adding fuel to a dying flame there! :smalltongue:

Also, MSH, it'd be nice to know a bit more of what Tirano's doing. :smallwink:Oh, I'm not allowed to speak up for myself when someone falsely accuses me of motives I never had in character creation, among other things?

So Fan can say all the crap he wants, but when I speak up for myself, I actually have to stay silent, bend over, and take it?:smallconfused::smallannoyed:

DoomITP

2010-06-04, 10:17 AM

Yeah pretty much, everyone else has calmed down over it. There is no reason to start the problem over again. He is not happy with how you do stuff. Either change or learn to deal with it.

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-04, 10:21 AM

Also, MSH, it'd be nice to know a bit more of what Tirano's doing. :smallwink:

ah...right. Almost forgot about him. :smalleek:

Draken

2010-06-04, 10:46 AM

Aaaand, something went bad with my computer. As we speak, I am on my father's laptop.

I will probably not have any real problems keeping internet access but it is likely that either of my parents will want to use their laptops.

Specially since this is likely the only source of internet access in this house now.

Damnit.

Frozen_Feet

2010-06-04, 10:46 AM

*venting*
It is bloody obvious Fan made a fool of himself already, and there is no need to get hung up on the issue. I wasn't trying to say you should bend over and take it; I just think the issue doesn't warrant more than glaring Fan angrily as he goes to sulk in a corner, ashamed.

Calling him out of said corner to fight is not strictly necessary. :smalltongue:

Ie., my was trying to say this ain't worth fighting over. It's doing a beautiful job accomplishing exactly the opposite, apparently. :smallredface:

KnightDisciple

2010-06-04, 11:02 AM

It is bloody obvious Fan made a fool of himself already, and there is no need to get hung up on the issue. I wasn't trying to say you should bend over and take it; I just think the issue doesn't warrant more than glaring Fan angrily as he goes to sulk in a corner, ashamed.

Calling him out of said corner to fight is not strictly necessary. :smalltongue:

Ie., my was trying to say this ain't worth fighting over. It's doing a beautiful job accomplishing exactly the opposite, apparently. :smallredface::smallsigh::smallredface:

I apologize for jumping your case, Frozen.

Obviously I was a touch annoyed, and kind of misread your intent. You clearly approached the issue better than some. Thank you.

Fan

2010-06-04, 01:21 PM

Okay, so you've dismissed one issue with an easily made mistake for which I apologize.

However, it still fails to address the common facts which I have laid forth, the misunderstanding was merely the straw that broke the camels back. You can ask anyone, outside of this RP. If I rage, it's due to a moral quandry, and that was nearly two years ago. Before I came to this RP, I had very little issue with letting people play.. whatever they wanted to, and acting however they wanted to. I still don't, because there's no reason to restrict someone's ideas because they disagree with yours, however, what I do disagree with is the constant treatment, that I have been met with, without fail, by another RPer in this Role Play.

So, unless any of you care about solving this issue, and addressing the things which are pretty much unrefutable, and undeniable fact, like the fact that he constantly has his characters gang up on people (Tai at the Beach episode, and anytime Vince even approaches Team Masato in the same room as Tyler and Satoshi. Just for instances which I can name without going through the old threads, or hell, even when I just try to talk to Satoshi.), and the constant rudeness with which I am addressed by said Rp'er.

It's not right, and it's not fair, to allow someone to get away with cyber bullying.

I've never went out of my way to cause problems with Knight, and even when faced with his brow beating (See recent IC.), I've tried to remain cordial about it.

The fact that you say that I should just sulk away is.. offensive, I'm bringing up an honest issue I have with KD's conduct towards me, and I'm being told that I simply have to tolerate the constant dogma with which I'm being treated? I don't care if I've muffed up in the past (and I admit I have), but no one is really innocent of that. That should not be a reason, and is not acceptable in any environment conducive to group RP to allow someone to constantly belittle, and berate people.

I wouldn't even care how, or what he RP'd if he did not go out of his way to point of issues that I have already addressed, make problems out of issues that really shouldn't be an issue with me, and constantly seek to berate, and insult my characters IC for actions that were not made in a hostile manner, or with any intent of harm.

DoomITP

2010-06-04, 01:36 PM

I have to agree with Dan, all this silly stuff creates an oppresive enviroment that no one would want to RP in.

Frozen_Feet

2010-06-04, 01:48 PM

*venting*

Your mistake and the one you should sulk about was getting worked up over a comment that was humorous and without ill will. Beyond that, I don't care one whiff about whatever bones you have to pick with KD, and I'm not convinced this is the time and place to get solving them.

Your complaints might be legitimate, but honestly, will arguing over them do any good to the game at this point? At least I'd rather focus on the epic conclusion of the roleplay, instead of reading pages of petty infighting. Kiss and make up, dammit, we have a game to finish! :smalltongue:

DoomITP

2010-06-04, 01:49 PM

The whole point of this is because this guy is making a pain in the rear to have fun or even PLAY THIS GAME at all. :smallannoyed:

Fan

2010-06-04, 01:54 PM

Well, in addition to what Doom has said, he's gotten me to the point where I have outright considered dropping from Reborn ITP just to avoid the constant belittling, and berating I would recieve just from interacting with him for brief moments of time.

Just for the most recent incident, I had a character ARRIVE, and say something largely inconsequential, and his character immediately lept upon everything he said. It was the exact same thing with the last time I had Vince say anything, and is a major reason for my.. dormancy in this RP until now.

I appreciate the work that you've put into building this encounter, and I plan to participate to my fullest to give this story the ending it deserves. However, if this issue isn't discussed now, it's unlikely that it will be again for a long time.

It's not petty infighting, it's a statment, and protest of the rudeness and Dogma I have been treated with.

Prime32

2010-06-04, 02:07 PM

I just read a Tom Strong compilation. And discovered the name of his first girlfriend. Heh.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-04, 02:07 PM

:smallsigh:

I'm not going to do this here. I'm not going to point and counterpoint. There's no viable reason that I feel I should do such a thing. It will only clutter this thread up.

Thus, I will simply say that from this point forward, it shouldn't be an IC issue, and whatever your OOC issues, I don't really have them.

So let's just trundle on our way, shall we? I don't feel like arguing, be it here or in PM.

Fan

2010-06-04, 02:15 PM

So what your saying is.. "Multiple people have an issue with my conduct, but because I don't feel like addressing any of the completely valid, and 100% true issues that have been brought up.. I wont because I feel that the issues brought up, despite being evidenced by my recent behavior, are invalid."

Yeah, that doesn't quite fly with me. Every issue is based on actual occurances, and things that have actually occured rather than vieled assumptions. It is YOUR actions that have brought about these feelings, and they shall not be swept aside by the winds of doubt, and apathy.

You have admitted dogma towards my ideas, and outright said that your bias'd against my ideas. You have admitted that you were rude to Righty about the Katsiugo concept, and you DID omit the fact that the NPC you pulled out of nowhere was in fact a higher seat that DoomITP has expressed interest in.

This is based on naught but what you have said, and done. I have made my case, and presented it well. Cease this dogma, and rudeness, and especially the casual dismissal of real issues. Please. For all your claims of "hating bullies" make an attempt to defend yourself lest ye be proclaimed guilty (in my eyes) of these crimes you call false accusations.

If you truly have no issue, then why do you go out of your way to precieve things as insults, and to insult me, and my works at every point? If you truly have no issue then why have you said to other people, who have then told me, that you do? If these things are so insanely false, and such wildly fanciful accusations, then why is it evidenced by your recent, and past conduct?

Frozen_Feet

2010-06-04, 02:30 PM

Fan, whether your feelings are valid is not the issue - cluttering up this thread is. As said, I honestly don't think this is the right time and place for you to talk things through with KD.

If you want to solve the issue, go ahead. But I must ask you, please do it somewhere else than this thread, and please act civil towards KD for the remainder of the game. No matter how mean he's been towards you in the past, you should take example of his last post.

strawberryman

2010-06-04, 02:35 PM

I will emphasize that this post is not an attempt to put you down. Now let's forget for a moment all of your "mistakes" that may have provoked the ire of certain parties.

Gaidoku attempted to pry into the close-knit group of Masato and company. When they weren't immediately receptive to his presence, he threatened to involve the police. I don't know about you, but that seems a bit underhanded, suspicious, and not something that most people would appreciate.
Vince supported Shirubaru's execution, which is no big deal, but it is likely a point against him for Diplomacy checks with certain members of Masato's crew, and Tyler is known to be a... well, let's be honest, hot-headed teenager at times, and Vince's saying "woah, you're a kid, you shouldn't be involved" can easily be taken as condescending. Which is hardly conductive to positive reaction.

Now, maybe there were overreactions, but the reactions presented in essence don't seem completely unreasonable. That said, The OOC is not for these conversations, and I still technically am a mediator as of yet. Most people just want to drop this and move on so we won't be distracted by it and bog down the playtime. So please, drop it, or move to PM.

DoomITP

2010-06-04, 02:43 PM

If you don't want these problems here than step up and figure out some way to either solve them now or have somewhere else to talk about this stuff.

strawberryman

2010-06-04, 02:45 PM

If you don't want these problems here than step up and figure out some way to either solve them now or have somewhere else to talk about this stuff.

There is another place to talk about it.

Private Messages.

Prime32

2010-06-04, 02:46 PM

Or IM. I know KD has an account.

DoomITP

2010-06-04, 02:47 PM

KnightDisciple

2010-06-04, 02:50 PM

Or IM. I know KD has an account.No. I'm not handing out my IM for this.

Everything should be as public as possible, I think people who want to join this should see exactly what they are in for. If I had seen how oppresive you guys can be I would never have bothered with you.....Yeah. Uh-huh.

I might be open to dealing with this over PM at a later time. But not right now.

Frozen_Feet

2010-06-04, 02:53 PM

The game is ending. It's unlikely for new players to crop up anymore, and I think most of the active players would rather let this slide instead of arguing over it now, when we're trying to do the last arc justice.

I disagree that all feuds and player problems should be solved in public, when most players have little interest for them.

If you're worried about Reborn, go and bring the issue up there. :smallwink:

Draken

2010-06-04, 02:53 PM

No. No it shouldn't. Because this is between Fan and KD, and no one else here really cares.

Six people are currentl speaing in this thread. KD, strawberry, me, Frozen, Fan and you.

Frozen, strawberry and me don't want that discussion here/to happen.

KD wants to solve it in private/sweep it under the rug because it was just a misunderstanding (and a big one at that), most of the other problems are IC things because dararam... Characters are not all loving friends, shocking, I know.

Fan and you (who came from nowhere, might I say, because it is been awhile since last time you posted), want to argue this.

So if the majority has a voice, then this will not be argued in this thread. End. Of. Story.

And damn laptop teclado.

DoomITP

2010-06-04, 02:53 PM

I came out of nowhere because I remember that I was arguing similar issues. I was arguing that if you are not in the circle of friends around here you are not worth anything. It seems that unless you are in this group, you and your ideas are insulted.

strawberryman

2010-06-04, 02:54 PM

Everything should be as public as possible, I think people who want to join this should see exactly what they are in for. If I had seen how oppresive you guys can be I would never have bothered with you.

No, it shouldn't. Because it distracts people from the RP. If you want to talk this apparent problem out, do it on your own time. You and Fan are the only people who think this, everyone else just wants to move on and drop it. If wanting to keep these arguments out of the OOC is oppressive, well, sure, we totally are. :smallannoyed:

DoomITP

2010-06-04, 02:56 PM

No, it shouldn't. Because it distracts people from the RP. If you want to talk this apparent problem out, do it on your own time. You and Fan are the only people who think this, everyone else just wants to move on and drop it. If wanting to keep these arguments out of the OOC is oppressive, well, sure, we totally are. :smallannoyed:

That isn't the oppresive part. I was talking about how you treat new people who are trying to get a decent spot in the rp or have different opinions than you guys.

Frozen_Feet

2010-06-04, 02:56 PM

???

Draken, what does "teclado" mean?

That isn't the oppresive part. I was talking about how you treat new people who are trying to get a decent spot in the rp or have different opinions than you guys.

Not really relevant to this RP anymore. If you want to discuss Reborn, go there. Otherwise, this does not need to be discussed now, if at all.

Draken

2010-06-04, 02:57 PM

Haven't seen any complaints in the reborn thread about the way we are treating anyone so... don't know what you are talking about.

Edit: It means keyboard. Language failure from my part.

strawberryman

2010-06-04, 02:58 PM

This is my last post on the matter.

Drop. This. Conversation.

That is all. I do not want to have to ask mods to lock the channel or something lame like that.

Moon Wolf

2010-06-04, 03:05 PM

Bonjour! I've PM'd my dear friend Artemis, and she replied, "I'll give godmod permissions to whoever needs them in order to move the plot forward :smallsmile: "

So....go nuts, people! :smalltongue:

EDIT: Would it be okay if I had Feiyan encouter Zombie-chan right now? (Amaya)

Frozen_Feet

2010-06-04, 03:07 PM

Sad she isn't coming back for the finale herself. I would've loved to see her play Echo more.

Also...

*pokes MSH*

... you are still forgetting about Tirano. :smalltongue: Could you perhaps divert some attention from Koujin so we get to know where he is. :smallsmile:

KnightDisciple

2010-06-04, 03:11 PM

Moon Wolf

2010-06-04, 03:11 PM

Okay! I guess I can have her do that...

KnightDisciple

2010-06-04, 03:18 PM

Okay! I guess I can have her do that...

I mostly say that because Liz and Koujin are the only ones fighting. Ruy, Noriko, and Amaya are still standing there waiting to fight.

Just so we don't mix signals, I'm about to have Noriko "throw down the gauntlet", but the intent is for her to end up fighting Xavier. Just thought I'd warn you now. :smallwink:

Moon Wolf

2010-06-04, 03:31 PM

I know. I'll PM Sucrose when he's online and talk about the idea then. :smallsmile:

Prime32

2010-06-04, 06:19 PM

So... feel free to godmod if there's anything you think Cecilia should be doing.

Lorolar

2010-06-04, 06:31 PM

Sorry to leave so soon Anyr, but its half midnight here and I'm tired as heck.

Deadtiming till the morning.

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-04, 07:34 PM

sorry, have to go....

I'll probably be back sooner than later. :smallsigh:

tgva8889

2010-06-04, 07:57 PM

Righty...Kayi's supposed to not be detected here. Unless Edge decided he didn't want to roleplay the whole other fight thing.

The Librarian

2010-06-04, 08:36 PM

Yeah, I think Edge kind of dropped out.

tgva8889

2010-06-04, 08:37 PM

I'll wait for Edge to say that himself. Meanwhile, Kayi is still hidden from direct sight and reiatsu sense at the moment, so Isara detecting her should be relatively impossible unless she's using some advanced senses I don't know about.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-04, 08:42 PM

Yeah, I think Edge kind of dropped out.I'm pretty sure he's just busy right now.

Kasanip

2010-06-04, 08:58 PM

The Librarian

2010-06-05, 10:10 AM

Okay, your probably right Knight.*shrugs*

By the way Knight

Satoshi's eyes widened as he heard, and felt what was happening.

"No! Damn you, NO!"

With that, his right hand reached just above his head...

And slashed it down over his face (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCXQWIt5P50&feature=related), forming his Mask.

And then he was gone.

First was Santago. Satoshi suddenly appeared behind him, grabbed the back of his shirt...and lobbed him into the air. The Fraccion was able to hear a brief phrase before Satoshi blurred away, and his "flight" took him too high.

"Get-"

Teodemiro wasn't spared as Satoshi grabbed his midsection and chucked him towards the same target.

"-Away-"

Nor was Raimondo; he was grabbed by the remains of his mask and sent spinning through the air.

"-From-"

Sana-Rita was grabbed under the arms and tossed like a sack of grain.

"-Them-"

Legoretta was grabbed and then punted at high speeds.

"-You-"

Maria was grabbed by her sword arm as she was tossed.

"-Hollow-"

Ambroz's flowing hair provided a great handhold for Satoshi to add him to the number of flying Arrancar.

"-Wastes-"

Vinoly was struck by a well-timed handspring kick, both of Satoshi's feet connecting with her jaw before she took flight.

"-Of-"

And finally there was Marro.

Satoshi blurred into sight in front of the Primera Espada, his body already in motion for his attack. His right fist flashed up, stunning the powerful Arrancar in a quick uppercut punch. His left fist followed a similar motion, lifting Marro a few inches off the ground.

"-Space! IKKOTSU"

And with those words, his body finished the single rotation he'd begun as soon as his second strike hit. Satoshi's powerful legs launched him into the air several yards...as Marro was sent flying through the air, a slight spin added to his trajectory.

As soon as his feet touched the ground, Satoshi disappeared from that ninth location.

It could now be seen that all 9 Arrancar were headed for the same place: a large empty lot. No bystanders of either force. No gun turrets.

Just Captain Satoshi Tsukami. Vizard. And perhaps the second most powerful Captain in Soul Society still alive. Who had just appeared on the rooftop of the building ringing the large lot where Marro and his Fraccion had landed in a heap.

Oh, none of them were seriously wounded yet, though a couple might have cracked bones and heavy bruising. But nothing to take them out of the fight...Yet.

"Ok. You wanted to see how far I'd go to stop you? Time to find out, Primera. Round Three, you sadistic son of a bitch. "

The amount of Epic in this post just exploded my Scouter.:smalltongue::smallcool: This seen would have been awesome if it was done in anime or even manga form.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-05, 11:10 AM

Thanks, Righty. I was mostly proud of myself for thinking of 9 different ways to get people airborne. o.0

My personal favorite is probably still this post (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8624220&postcount=646), though. I feel like I hit the perfect sweet spot of "Awesome" right there.

Just remember folks, this fight might be approaching the halfway point! There's plenty more surprises, good and bad, awaiting our hero and villains!:smallbiggrin:

KnightDisciple

2010-06-05, 12:50 PM

A capability of Koujin's heavy reitsu unknown to most is a kind of radar. He can feel areas within it that his presence does not include-holes in the field. It's much more imprecise at the outer edges of his reitsu, but nearby his body it can be a very useful tool.

Slowed by the shield, Ruy's kick passes right through the blur of Koujin's head. A moment later, the image smeared down to match where he had ducked under the kick.

Besides the duck, no indication is made that Koujin was even aware of the attack. In a split second, the 6th division captain will be striking at Liz; a smack of reiryoku in the back, five large needles of crystal, and several rapid-fire slashes with his dual zanpakutou.Ok, I'm going to be honest, MSH. This post frustrates me a bit, on a couple of levels.

First, I'm not a fan of pulling such notable powers out of nowhere. It's not a huge extension, so I'm not going to demand he doesn't have it or anything. I'd imagine he could sense that kick any number of ways, so it's all good, I suppose.

But I will ask that you be careful to not keep inventing totally new powers for Koujin from just reiatsu manipulation. Frankly, I think he already goes further than such things should really be able to accomplish, but this is endgame, so it doesn't matter. But "really dense reiatus + fine control = telekinesis"...yeah. Anyways.

The bigger problem is that Koujin is utterly unmarked. He hasn't had so much as a scratch from Elizabeth. You know, the freaking Tercera Espada. She has that position for a reason. She likely has an edge in raw power, and considering Koujin's, what, maybe a century or so old, she's got at least 3 times the time for training and experience. And she's using Kido (mainly Bakudo) in incredibly inventive and intelligent ways, as befits a woman with a mastery of the subject.

But Koujin? He's not even getting slowed down. Let along hurt.

Meanwhile, if you look over to the Satoshi vs. Marro fight, you'll note that Satoshi has already taken something of a beating. Right now, his torso and arms are practically one big bruise. His right arm has a rather painful acid burn. And in turn, he's been bruising Marro and giving minor fractures. Granted, if it weren't 9 on 1, it'd probably be more in his favor, but...The point being, Satoshi's 500 years old, and very much a "melee specialist". Yet he's still taken hits, gotten at least lightly wounded.

Yet Koujin, fighting someone with much more experience, and quite possibly more power....is utterly untouched? I mean, hell, Liz didn't go into Resurreccion until Koujin had both of his Shikai out. That, in my mind, means she's a force to be reckoned with, but Koujin's getting along as well as if she were a fresh unseated he was sparring with.

You see where the problem may lie? I'm not asking for Koujin to suddenly die. But it would be nice to see him a.)actually working at this, b.)maybe get a little roughed up, and c.)acknowledge, one way or another, this is the Tercera Espada he's fighting. Hopefully, it's not too much of a stretch.

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-05, 01:44 PM

Your points would be valid, if they were right.

First, Koujin has always had the radar power. It just doesn't come up much, as this is his...third fight ever? I'd find a quote, but it'd be buried back several seireitei threads at least.

Second:
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8629477&postcount=679

Third: Koujin is a glass cannon. If he gets hit much (for example, as much as Satoshi has up to this point) he would be down. Describing him getting hit a lot doesn't work, but it doesn't mean I'm not taking Liz's strength into consideration.

Also-Koujin with both his shikai will not be able to keep up with Liz in ressurrection.

Lorolar

2010-06-05, 02:27 PM

Speaking of not inventing abilities out of the blue, I should probably post what Kinezumi has been developing.

Spoilered in case you dont want to read it
Right so, for some time he has had effectively three different releases, though one was just a modification of his first. He has improved his own ability to use them and is effectively pulling small bits from each at a time, at the moment he has been shifting between two weapons and earlier released wings without the rest of his release. This does not mean he can do all three at once, (there will be no agile flying firebreathing poison thorned dervish) but he has access to the abilities given time to switch.

For some time he has been working on attaining Segunda Etapa, through the process as laid out by Alejandro, and recent events with Koujin allowed him to take the final step. A reveal he shall be revealing in his current fight with Kiljaeren. This is its details:

Príncipe de mentiras: Prince of Lies

Apearance: http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/8765/prncipedementiras.jpg
The white bone of the segments of his armour shift to cover much of his form, indeed becoming much of his form. His arms and legs take on a lean, animalistic, predatory look and his hands and feet are tipped by cruely barbed claws. Intricate sweeping designs and sharp spikes cover the surface of his armour which covers all of his body save his face and his chest and abdomem, a taunt to his opponents. A long tail whose tip is a razor spike is yet another additio to his form as well as a sweeping pair of horns.

In this form his heiro increases, though only to a level that coul be considered mid to high for an espada; a vast improvement for himself. His speed and strength also increase, as is beffitting for a release of this nature but it is the following ability that is its true danger:

Cuerpo de mentiras
He gains the abillity to fleshform his own body, to shapeshift to a certain extent. This is not the ability to change his apearance, this is the ability to morph his body; to turn hands to swords, back to wings, feet to daggers. His whole body becomes a living weapon to manipulate and shift, the only two limitations being he must retain his basic humanoid form and that he cannot gain more than 20% of his base mass, any changes from beyond that must be taken from material elsewhere on his own body

Posting this so it can be critiqued and the bugs worked out before they come up in combat.

Frozen_Feet

2010-06-05, 02:44 PM

If it's okay, I'll have the infernals rampaging about disrupting other fights as well. Once I get a hang of where Tirano and Idelfonso are lurking, they'll head for their designated fights, but before that it'd be nice if I could something else with them besides fighting random mooks. :smallredface:

Fan

2010-06-05, 02:48 PM

Also, MSH, I thought we were going to do "That"?:smallconfused:

We did kinda put a lot of planning into it.. so, I'd be rather sad if it got canceled without a good reason.

tgva8889

2010-06-05, 02:55 PM

Edge, if/when you get on, we should get together to discuss the finishing of Episode 35 in relatively reasonable time.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-05, 03:02 PM

KnightDisciple

2010-06-05, 03:06 PM

Feiyan looked around. Damn them, that was fast. Xavier-kun's fighting...the dude. Koujin-taichou's obviously fighting the strongest one, the espada. And Damara-san is fighting the other one. Which leaves me with....and finally Feiyan laid eyes on Amaya. Holy crap! She exclaimed, in half-wonder, half-disgust. You're a freakin' zombie!...Moon Wolf, I hate to be this blunt, but only a blind and deaf person would mistake Noriko for a "dude".

She's a busty 7 foot tall Amazon, with a very much feminine voice. Her figure, while not as revealed as some, is most decidedly still visible enough to express "this is a female individual".

In short, I'd ask that you change that.:smallwink:

Edit: And while, as Sucrose pointed out, she's not fully healed that bite, she's also not rotting head to toe. She's been taking potions that let her stay healed enough to look relatively normal, as well as letting her better retain her memory and gained skill.

OverWilliam

2010-06-05, 03:26 PM

...But yes. She is a freakin' zombie. A freakin' zombie chef, at that. Freakin' delicious. :smallwink:

Sucrose

2010-06-05, 03:31 PM

What OW said.:smalltongue:

Anyway, Frozen, it's fine for the infernals to interfere with Amaya and Feiyan's fight.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-05, 03:34 PM

Still doesn't mean Noriko is magically a "dude" in any way.:smalltongue:

Moon Wolf

2010-06-05, 03:35 PM

Kasa-chan, I didn't know that. :smallredface:

Sucrose

2010-06-05, 03:37 PM

Still doesn't mean Noriko is magically a "dude" in any way.:smalltongue:

This is true. Unless the melee is particularly hectic, one would hope Feiyan would notice things like that.:smallwink:

KnightDisciple

2010-06-05, 03:38 PM

This is true. Unless the melee is particularly hectic, one would hope Feiyan would notice things like that.:smallwink:Noriko is so obviously female that this is extraordinarily unlikely.:smalltongue:

Moon Wolf

2010-06-05, 03:48 PM

When I said 'the dude' I MEANT RUY. (Assuming he was there...) Not Noriko. C'mon, even Feiyan isn't that stupid...:smalltongue:

KnightDisciple

2010-06-05, 03:52 PM

When I said 'the dude' I MEANT RUY. (Assuming he was there...) Not Noriko. C'mon, even Feiyan isn't that stupid...:smalltongue::smallconfused:

Um. Xavier is fighting Noriko.

Damara is fighting Ruy.

tgva8889

2010-06-05, 04:05 PM

:smallconfused:

Um. Xavier is fighting Noriko.

Damara is fighting Ruy.

Owned? :smallwink::smallbiggrin:

KnightDisciple

2010-06-05, 04:07 PM

Owned? :smallwink::smallbiggrin:Mostly I'm just picky about people getting basics right about my own characters. Like gender, who they're fighting, that sort of thing.

OverWilliam

2010-06-05, 04:57 PM

...So yes, Owned. :smallwink: :smallbiggrin:

Moon Wolf

2010-06-05, 06:28 PM

I had six three-hour exams last week, people! And I've got eight more! So I'm allowed to make mistakes like this!!! (I corrected it.)

Also....up to how high a bakudō/hadō spell should Feiyan be able to use? I was thinking up to around 61-63 in bakudō, and 63 in hadō. :smallsmile:

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-05, 06:33 PM

An apology/explanation. I'm trying to splice together this current version of Koujin's abilities with his setup in Reborn...so that's why it doesn't really match any one thing. But don't worry, I'm not technically making up anything new, just taking pieces from different places.

Also, the ability Tirano used is essentially just a really thin Cero. I'll run any particularly unusual abilities by the OOC before I use them though.

strawberryman

2010-06-05, 07:05 PM

((Would have been true. however, due to Kinezumi's info he (and the rest of the shinigami fighting) should know most abilities of their opponents.))

Koujin jumps, sending a 'gust' of spiritual pressure at the petals to knock them away. His weapons are still held in the same positions. "I think your assumption is unwise. Just because I may not have even a century of experience doesn't mean my skill is deficient."

"Eikongou-Suishouba"Snapping his crystalline blade to his side, it slowly melds into a new form (http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/MageSparrowhawk/SuishoubaandKyoubaproto-bankai-1.jpg?t=1270973472). Elbow-length gauntlets and knee-length boots crystallize into existence. A long flowing cape of sparkling thread replaces his haiori, and a second diamond blade shaped like his unreleased zanpakoutou floats adjacent to him. His vertical inertia finally tapers off, and he begins a dive toward Elizabeth.

((Fair enough.))

...Unfortunately for Koujin, Liz had been accounting for the Captain's strategy. At first, the petals taper away as the lady Espada calmly stands strong in the face of her approaching foe.

...Then, the petals levitate back, closing around Koujin just before he reaches her, drawn by the rose path Liz laid out. "Perhaps. But it is obvious your experience is." ...and, the miniature explosions commence, all around Koujin as he flies through the literal minefield.

I believe I've earned the right to do this:

http://i28.tinypic.com/incunl.jpg

OverWilliam

2010-06-05, 07:38 PM

The two Norikos that had been near Xavier fell back, their bodies smoking.

Their bodies faded, and two new Norikos stepped into being next to the Noriko who fired a Cero.

Now that just feels really, really unfair to me. :smallconfused:

KnightDisciple

2010-06-05, 07:43 PM

Now that just feels really, really unfair to me. :smallconfused:Yet that's been how her power works this whole time. She can, at will, dismiss any body and replace it. Check every other fight she's been in. Ever.

OverWilliam

2010-06-05, 07:46 PM

You didn't deny it.

He blew himself up to make that attack. In so doing destroying a good portion of his own offensive ability. You gave him two lines that equate to 'screw you.' That's not fair.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-05, 07:47 PM

You didn't deny it.

He blew himself up to make that attack. In so doing destroying a good portion of his own offensive ability. You gave him two lines that equate to 'screw you.' That's not fair.....What I stated was that Noriko only behaved exactly as her powers have behaved since I created her.

What would you have me do? Suddenly and mysteriously cripple her single special ability?:smallconfused:

Anyr

2010-06-05, 07:49 PM

Yet that's been how her power works this whole time. She can, at will, dismiss any body and replace it. Check every other fight she's been in. Ever.

Yes, and this exact issue has also been raised in many of those fights. No matter how many times it comes up, I don't recall ever seeing a satisfactory answer to it. To rephrase the problem: Theoretically, how can Xavier reasonably be expected to win this fight? As demonstrated on numerous occasions, Noriko is effectively invulnerable against any non-mental attack that doesn't disable all of her clones at once. If even a single one survives she can instantly replace the others without any cost or damage. Again, how do you picture Xavier beating such an enemy?

....What I stated was that Noriko only behaved exactly as her powers have behaved since I created her.

What would you have me do? Suddenly and mysteriously cripple her single special ability?:smallconfused:

The fact that she possesses only one ability doesn't excuse that ability being overpowered.

OverWilliam

2010-06-05, 07:50 PM

Xavier is a formidable opponent. I don't care how much you harp on the 'Noriko's really Espada level herself' line, a Vice-Captain is a formidable opponent. He's going all out and is just about to kill himself trying to fight her. She's not breathing hard.

You just lectured MSH about this, Knight. That's not fair either.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-05, 08:00 PM

Ok. Let me raise a few points.

1.)Shades and I are planning this fight out. We are, at this very moment, speaking in IM. *Spoiler Alert* Xavier's going to win.

2.)Her cloning ability is not truly "unlimited". Eventually, if constantly forced to make new ones, she will tire. This was seen in Episode 34; by the end of her involvement, she was clearly sweating, strained, and exhausted.

3.)Each clone is, again, the same as her unreleased self, just tougher and mentally linked.

4.)Connected to that, a sufficient threat will require her to attempt engaging with all 6 clones.

5.)She has no special defense against AOE.

6.)Did I mention Shades and I are talking this out over IM?

7.)Or that Xavier does, if you recall, still have Bankai?

OverWilliam

2010-06-05, 08:05 PM

If it comes off feeling unrealistic and unfair to the reader, you're no better than Tite Kubo, even if it did take two people to write.

But at least it means you're not bullying him without his consent, which makes it a little better. It's not exactly a satisfying answer, but I'll let it go.

Moon Wolf

2010-06-05, 08:07 PM

People, please, stop fighting in the ooc!!! :smallfrown:

Draken

2010-06-05, 08:15 PM

It probably won't because Xavier's bankai is, in effect, a massive shapeable AoE that can easily catch all six Norikos within it, even if they are not clumped together.

It's what some (me) would call a Hard Counter. I used that in Episode 34 against Sunako, Sand body vs Sand Control + Vitrification.

Kasanip

2010-06-05, 08:32 PM

Kasa-chan, I didn't know that. :smallredface:

It is okay. It only was rarely such a joke was made. :smallsmile: To think of Hazuki, I don't know what to do with Hollow Hazuki. :smallconfused: I think all of the fights are much higher than her abilities. Of course there is no wanting to interrupt or cause trouble for other players too.

tgva8889

2010-06-05, 08:37 PM

It is okay. It only was rarely such a joke was made. :smallsmile: To think of Hazuki, I don't know what to do with Hollow Hazuki. :smallconfused: I think all of the fights are much higher than her abilities. Of course there is no wanting to interrupt or cause trouble for other players too.

Have her fight Yori?

I honestly wish there were a good solution for you...but I unfortunately do not have one.

Kasanip

2010-06-05, 08:44 PM

Have her fight Yori?

I honestly wish there were a good solution for you...but I unfortunately do not have one.

Yori is in mortal world with Tsukiha. Probably they will fight a little I think, but it is not such a time yet in their story.

Thank you for trying to help. :smallsmile:

Zarah

2010-06-05, 11:47 PM

Ladies and gentlemen, more than a year after his creation, the Primera Espada has finally released his Zanpakutou (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8637412&postcount=752).

And I still have surprises in waiting.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-06, 12:03 AM

Edge

2010-06-06, 06:42 AM

horngeek

2010-06-06, 06:47 AM

Right. I will still be away from FFRP until Tuesday.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-06, 08:08 AM

Right, apologies all for absence. As I said either in here or the Reborn thread, I was redecorating my room, and I've only just set everything back up again.

Right, to do:

Get Idelfonso and the Sicarios into the action in Seireitei.

Get Adrian into the action in Las Noches.

Have Baudelio wait for his duel with Ami.

Because of the latter and not wanting to take the risk out of any fight in the 'past', I think I'll skip on Baudelio facing Isara, unless there are any objections. Apologies for holding up the episode. :smallfrown:Regarding the Sicarios...

1.)How many besides Idelfonso are there?

2.)Would it be acceptable if it happened that, after the Sicarios killing an unspecified number of random unseated, they themselves became prey for several groups of 2nd Division members (both unseated and seated)?

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-06, 09:34 AM

I believe I've earned the right to do this:

http://i28.tinypic.com/incunl.jpg

:smallconfused: I'm confused.

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Before Koujin jumped, Liz had petals around her body and moving toward him. He jumped up and over the line of roses, moving the petals out of the way with reitsu. Then he started to fall back down...and the petals moved back toward him? The roses (as you described, I thought) are at all times either under him, or behind him.

How did I misunderstand? (as that is quite normal for me)

Moon Wolf

2010-06-06, 11:15 AM

RE: The Marro releasing His Zanpakuto: I have three words.

It's goin' down. :smalltongue::smallbiggrin:

strawberryman

2010-06-06, 11:41 AM

tgva8889

2010-06-06, 12:35 PM

Because of the latter and not wanting to take the risk out of any fight in the 'past', I think I'll skip on Baudelio facing Isara, unless there are any objections. Apologies for holding up the episode. :smallfrown:

No worries, I just have to get Kayi to fighting Isara now.

Frozen_Feet

2010-06-06, 12:37 PM

Yori is in mortal world with Tsukiha. Probably they will fight a little I think, but it is not such a time yet in their story.

Thank you for trying to help. :smallsmile:

Maybe she could fight against the Sicarios with Orcos? Or against Tirano with Samael? Her kido abilities would help either one. :smallsmile:

Edge

2010-06-06, 01:37 PM

Regarding the Sicarios...

1.)How many besides Idelfonso are there?

2.)Would it be acceptable if it happened that, after the Sicarios killing an unspecified number of random unseated, they themselves became prey for several groups of 2nd Division members (both unseated and seated)?

1) Never specified a hard number. Probably not more than 100 very elite individuals.

2) I wouldn't mind it, but I'll wait to see if any other suggestions tickle my fancy more.

strawberryman

2010-06-06, 01:42 PM

On Ami vs. Baudelio: Ready anytime, in fact I really don't want to team up on Imhotep, that's Tyler's fight. :smalltongue:

So if you want, I can make a post for Ami running towards the hole before Baudelio blocks her somehow.

Edge

2010-06-06, 01:45 PM

That suggestion is roughly what I had in mind for Ami vs. Baudelio. He's been stationed near the Palacio Real, and probably won't move far from it to adhere to Von Geister's orders.

Moon Wolf

2010-06-06, 01:52 PM

Okay...so, I was looking through a list of all of the kidō in Bleach and it had some kidō that either didn't have numbers or classifications. And some of those ones are really cool...so I've given them ratings based on their power because heck, I wanna use some of 'em in this fight! :smallbiggrin:

(The page with the kidō in question is here (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Kid%C5%8D).)

The kidō that I'm giving numbers based on their power are:

Fushibi, Bakudō 12
Hakufuku, Bakudō 28
Kyōmon, Bakudō 35
Shisō Kekkai, Hadō 80
Kongōbaku, Hadō 36
Hyōga Seiran, Hadō 90
Gaki Rekkō, Hadō 76

And that's it. Each of these spells didn't have a number, just the name, the probable classification (Bakudō or Hadō), and a description. If you're totally confused, visit the page I linked above and scroll down to the "Uncategorized Spells" section. Some of these spells are really darn cool and I figured that some people may want to use them (me among that group, duh). :smallsmile:

strawberryman

2010-06-06, 01:57 PM

Or you could just do what Liz and a few others do, say the spell without the number, and save the correction for if they ever are canonly categorized. :smalltongue:

Moon Wolf

2010-06-06, 02:39 PM

Yeah, sure, but still, you have to admit, Kongōbaku, Gaki Rekkō, and Hyōga Seiran look damn awesome. :smalltongue:

KnightDisciple

2010-06-06, 02:44 PM

Yeah, sure, but still, you have to admit, Kongōbaku, Gaki Rekkō, and Hyōga Seiran look damn awesome. :smalltongue:*Shrugs*

I put Gaki Rekko as a Kido that Masaru uses in Reborn, and made it a hado 70.

And I'd say Hyōga Seiran is more of an 80 or high 70s.

Moon Wolf

2010-06-06, 02:49 PM

Gotcha. I'll edit and re-post as The Handy Guide To Awesome Un-Classified Kidō. :smalltongue:

Moon Wolf

2010-06-06, 02:55 PM

Check these kidō out in the future people, I didn't put them up for my health; I put them up because they are cool. :smallbiggrin:

Moon Wolf's Handy Guide To Awesome Un-Classified Kidō

Fushibi, Bakudō 12
Hakufuku, Bakudō 28
Kyōmon, Bakudō 35
Shisō Kekkai, Hadō 80
Kongōbaku, Hadō 36
Hyōga Seiran, Hadō 90
Gaki Rekkō, Hadō 70

Prime32

2010-06-06, 02:56 PM

And I'd say Hyōga Seiran is more of an 80 or high 70s.According to the wiki it passed through a barrier which blocks kido of lv89 or lower.

Moon Wolf

2010-06-06, 03:02 PM

Which is why I made it 90.....so...ninja'd, KnightD.... :smallsmile:

KnightDisciple

2010-06-06, 03:10 PM

Eh. Whatever.*Shrugs*

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-06, 05:51 PM

The rose line started from Liz to Koujin, there were no gaps. And if necessary, the wave was large enough to catch Koujin as he was falling. Now, instead of nitpicking, can we maybe continue the fight? >_>

:smallconfused:

I really wasn't trying to nitpick, I was just confused how Liz attacked Koujin in (almost exactly) the way he was trying to avoid being attacked...

But if that's nitpicking, fine by me. I'll post shortly.:smallsigh:

Frozen_Feet

2010-06-06, 06:07 PM

:smallconfused:

I really wasn't trying to nitpick, I was just confused how Liz attacked Koujin in (almost exactly) the way he was trying to avoid being attacked...

But if that's nitpicking, fine by me. I'll post shortly.:smallsigh:

Don't forget Tirano! :smalltongue:

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-06, 06:29 PM

(Um, as shunpo is not teleportation, Koujin would still be hit by a bunch of bala petals before getting out of there. And I would be hard pressed to believe that he could maneuver through the cloud of petals at that speed without being hit.)

Um...forward, then down? The petals were coming in from both sides, so there should be a fairly clear path above and behind Liz.

strawberryman

2010-06-06, 06:40 PM

The cloud surrounded him. Is it so hard to say that Koujin got hit enough times to warrant a major injury, or is he so much of a "glass cannon" so as to be used as an excuse for him to be barely hurt at all before this is over? :smallsigh: I will say being proud of the strategy I set out it is fairly irritating to be negated as easily as "oh, I better shunpo out".

Prime32

2010-06-06, 06:47 PM

Considering it's the final battle and everything, couldn't he lose/cripple a limb? That shows his defence is low without OHKOing him or making him dodge everything.

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-06, 06:56 PM

I still don't understand how the cloud surrounded him, as he pushed it to the sides, then they moved back to the 'centerline' of rose seals...which he was above anyway.

...:smallsigh:

Communication is the problem, like usual. I'll edit for him to get hit a few more times.

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-06, 10:24 PM

double post :smalltongue:

question for the group. If a bakudo is cast on someone, but they're not actually standing where the bakudo is aimed, what happens?

Koujin is about two feet offset from where he appears to be, and Liz just used Bakudo 63 on him...so would it home in on his real position, or go where it was 'targeted'?

edit: >.< This is also directed at Strawberry specifically, if you have a preference on how it would work.

strawberryman

2010-06-06, 11:39 PM

Even as the yellow strand of energy hones in on Koujin, Liz coats the area with roses, oddly not aiming at the Captain as she takes for the air.

That should answer the question.

Callos_DeTerran

2010-06-07, 12:18 AM

Alright, I managed to snare some internet time. Was it ever decided if Gai or Tai was going to battle the drones?

Also, Fan, I believe the comment of 'prove why Vince is a Captain' actually came from me. :smallwink: And was less poking fun and more so referring to the end of the Hueco Mundo bit in canon BleachITP where the Captain's showed up...and pretty much pwned their enemies in CMoA-type fashion. And a subtle hint/encouragement/egging on for you to do the same.

Hadrian_Emrys

2010-06-07, 12:28 AM

KnightDisciple

2010-06-07, 01:40 AM

1) Never specified a hard number. Probably not more than 100 very elite individuals.

2) I wouldn't mind it, but I'll wait to see if any other suggestions tickle my fancy more.Better late than never!

It seems Orcos will be targetin the Sicarios to some degree as well.

I'll let Frozen get another post in fighting them with Orcos, then do a short post where the 2nd Division is starting to counter them (similar mission profiles and all). If that's ok with you/nothing groundbreaking comes up.

Callos_DeTerran

2010-06-07, 01:54 AM

Hey Edge, does Idelfonso have a fight yet or no? If not then might I suggest Nishi?

Edge

2010-06-07, 02:12 AM

Callos_DeTerran

2010-06-07, 02:16 AM

Well he was going to fight Orcos again...

But I don't really enjoy fighting death by a thousand cuts. So... eh. If F_F wants to keep the fight so the two can wrap up their previous engagement, then I'll follow through with that.

It's late, I'm on pain meds, and a bite confused. o.o I don't know what you just said. Come again?

Edge

2010-06-07, 02:18 AM

Okay. If Frozen is willing to drop the fight between Orcos and Idelfonso, I would be more than willing to have Idelfonso fight Nishi. However, if Frozen wants to finish off the fight Orcos and Idelfonso started during the big Hollow Massacre, then I will keep that former agreement.

Capiche? :smalltongue:

Callos_DeTerran

2010-06-07, 02:57 AM

Edge

2010-06-07, 02:58 AM

Because I like my complex lexis and vocabulary?

:smalltongue:

Frozen_Feet

2010-06-07, 06:10 AM

I'd very much like Idelfonso and Orcos to meet again, but I agree a fight between Idelfonso and Nishi would be more interesting.

Hum-di-dum. Currently, Orcos is being swarmed, and Idelfonso could be the straw that breaks the camel's back. So, I suggest Idelfonso arrives and starts attacking Orcos, but then Nishi intervenes and lures the Sicario to fight elsewhere. Orcos then goes to fight... someone else?

Is there any active enemy PC left without a fight? (Hades?) I can keep fighting random mooks with Orcos, but writing all the figting by myself is rather dull. So, in the event there's no other character to fight with him, could someone with enough attention to spare at least control the NPC mooks for me? :smallsmile:

Edge

2010-06-07, 07:12 AM

Eh, if needs be, I could probably whip up a couple of higher-up Sicarios to tag-team Orcos. Just don't expect brilliant characterisation. :smallwink:

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-07, 09:32 AM

If Anyr is up for it, I don't think Grumo has a fight. Orcos could fight him...

edit: in case you missed it (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8641553&postcount=772) Frozen...

strawberryman

2010-06-07, 10:34 AM

If you need a visual aide... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0vF-ixYAjY#t=03m10s)

Something like that.

MageSparrowhawk

2010-06-07, 11:03 AM

Is Liz actively controlling the cero..wall-thingy? If not, what method is it targeting Koujin? I'm just trying to figure out if his defenses are ineffective, or just useless.

strawberryman

2010-06-07, 11:07 AM

It isn't. But, there are rose seals laid out in such a way so as to provide an, if not infinite, long-lasting loop. Using his reiatsu-pushes would likely upset the balance and cause two of the cero to hit eachother (prematurely?), causing a chain reaction and massive case of death. As in normal danmaku, it's move, or be blown up. :smalltongue:

Draken

2010-06-07, 11:27 AM

I hope that you and Zarah talk about Toho's mentality and motivations prior to the Daisuke talk, Draken. I'm not on nearly reliably enough to do a decent Q&A, but he knows more about the OOC for the character than most others. I can't recall if I've pushed for this before, but yeah...

If you have not given Zarah the information about Toho that you gave me... Yeah, I am gonna have to talk to him quite a bit, luckly I am, inn fact, going to have Toho give Daisuke (directly) some exposition, all I need is horngeek to return.

Really, the fact that horngeek will only be back tomorrow is the reason Toho has not walked out of the debris yet.

Hadrian_Emrys

2010-06-07, 12:15 PM

I think you both have large fragments of information, but I cannot recall just what parts you both have. So, I suppose the HG delay is to the plot's benefit.

Shades of Gray

2010-06-07, 12:59 PM

... And the Noriko vs Xavier fight is over. That's it for Xavier this RP, besides his epilogue. I really enjoyed roleplaying him over the last... Wow, almost a year. It's really fulfilling to finally have his story done, even though I wasn't able to exactly tell everything that I wanted to with him. Thank you all for making this last-almost-a-year bloody fantastic. And I really look forward to playing with you all again when Reborn comes along.

KnightDisciple

2010-06-07, 01:01 PM

And so Noriko's story is complete (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8646820&postcount=800), though the story of those she worked with is not.

Even though she was kind of a "latecomer", I really had fun with her.:smallcool: