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Wolf Warhead
2010-06-07, 05:19 AM
First off, allow me to say hello to everyone! This forum has been a great help and inspiration for both optimising and role-playing. Figured I'd become part of it!

Now then, down to business. There's a little idea I've been playing with for a character (details if anyone cares), but it requires charisma damaging poison. However, I've only found one thing so far, some form of inhaled dust, but it does permanent damage, which gets in the way for what I'm planning with it.

Is there any such poison that I just managed to miss or rules for creating entirely new poisons?

(Note: This is in D&D 3.5)

Jair Barik
2010-06-07, 05:26 AM
Burned angel wing fumes, inhaled (DC 18) 1d6 followed by 2d6
Sufferfume (also inhaled but DC 20) 1 point to all stats followed by the same.

senrath
2010-06-07, 05:29 AM
According to the Poison Handbook (found here (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=4854.0)) you have these three:

1d6 Cha+1d2 Con: Slowswarming (DoTU, ingested)
1d6 Cha: Raeliss Smoke (A&E)
1d6 Cha: Burning Angel Wing Fumes (BoVD, of course)

Wolf Warhead
2010-06-07, 05:30 AM
Burned Angel Wing Fumes would do wonderfully. And a beautifully fitting name, too.

Just out of curiosity, in what book can I find it?

Edit: Ninja-answered! Thanks!

Edit 2: Man, that guide has me all wanting to make a poison expert. It'd make sense for this character to be one, so that's good...

Now to find a campaign for him. I'm surrounded by nerds; why can't I get my D&D fix? D:

Person_Man
2010-06-07, 09:14 AM
The Maiming Strike feat from Exemplars of Evil lets you trade Sneak Attack damage for Charisma damage. Very useful for killing animals and aberrations and other low Cha non-immune enemies, and for debuffing spontaneous casters.

Ormagoden
2010-06-07, 09:17 AM
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I'm surrounded by nerds; why can't I get my D&D fix? D:

I hear ya man, I hear ya!

Octopus Jack
2010-06-07, 09:18 AM
Salvo from Complete scoundrel might do charisma damage if you get lucky :smallbiggrin:

Jair Barik
2010-06-07, 10:36 AM
Salvo from Complete scoundrel might do charisma damage if you get lucky :smallbiggrin:

oh you. Alternatively theres always the old fashioned way of bestowing bizzare conditions upon somebody. Wander around the wilderness picking up various diseases and then repeatedly bite the person. I'll admit this has its flaws but it might work.

Worira
2010-06-07, 10:41 AM
The Maiming Strike feat from Exemplars of Evil lets you trade Sneak Attack damage for Charisma damage. Very useful for killing animals and aberrations and other low Cha non-immune enemies, and for debuffing spontaneous casters.

Animals have very low self-esteem.

Wolf Warhead
2010-06-07, 12:40 PM
oh you. Alternatively theres always the old fashioned way of bestowing bizzare conditions upon somebody. Wander around the wilderness picking up various diseases and then repeatedly bite the person. I'll admit this has its flaws but it might work.

Ha! That might be a hilarious character role play, if short-lived.


The Maiming Strike feat from Exemplars of Evil lets you trade Sneak Attack damage for Charisma damage. Very useful for killing animals and aberrations and other low Cha non-immune enemies, and for debuffing spontaneous casters.

Certainly sounds like it could be useful, though I'll probably go for good old-fashioned poison for enemies and it's not really he can use on himself :smallwink: For now, I'll likely settle for Rill Leaf (A&E) since it's cheap enough for an item used for flavour, switching to Burning Angel Wing fumes and Raeliss smoke at higher levels.

TroubleBrewing
2010-06-07, 12:57 PM
It's not a poison, but Bestow Curse works well...

Wolf Warhead
2010-06-07, 07:43 PM
Any save-decreaser is your friend as a poison specialist. I'm already taking a look around and-WHY AM I DOING THIS? I JUST SPENT THREE WEEKS DIGGING THROUGH BOOKS FOR A LEVEL 18 SORCERER. I HAVE SCHOOL WORK TO DO, DAMN IT.

Why won't my head agree with my priority list?