Scipio
2010-06-10, 11:51 AM
My Ravenloft group should avoid this discussion.
My gestalt Strahd is a full necromancer on one side and an assortment of classes on the other. His goal is to remain hidden while casting.
Relevant Feats and Class Abilities
Hide in Plain Sight (Shadowdancer)
Skill Mastery (Exemplar)
Mobile Spellcasting
Still Spell
Silent Spell
It is my understanding if you cast a spell while hidden, you take a -20 on the Hide check. If you take a move action after the casting, you only have the hide penalty associated with how far you have moved. Strahd can move as part of the casting, and then take another move action afterwards.
Question #1
How do Mobile Spellcasting and Hide work together?
For example, he has an enhanced speed of 60, and he casts then moves 55 feet (greater than half and less than full), so he has a -5 penalty due to movement. If he cast at the beginning, does the -20 penalty apply during the movement portion of the standard action?
Here is how I believe it works, so please correct me as needed. Any time you move, it necessitates an opposed hide/spot. Any time you attack, it also necessitates an opposed hide/spot. If you move, cast and then move again (mobile spellcasting), you treat the moving and casting as separate checks. So mobile spellcasting allows you to ignore the -20 penalty, since you are moving after the casting. The only penalty comes from how fast you are moving.
Question #2
How does a lack of spell components interact with the Hide skill?
For example, if you are casting a Silent Still spell (no material/focus) and the spell does not require an attack roll, do you take the -20 hide penalty? It seems like there would be no penalty, since there is nothing to be seen or heard.
Thanks for the feedback.
My gestalt Strahd is a full necromancer on one side and an assortment of classes on the other. His goal is to remain hidden while casting.
Relevant Feats and Class Abilities
Hide in Plain Sight (Shadowdancer)
Skill Mastery (Exemplar)
Mobile Spellcasting
Still Spell
Silent Spell
It is my understanding if you cast a spell while hidden, you take a -20 on the Hide check. If you take a move action after the casting, you only have the hide penalty associated with how far you have moved. Strahd can move as part of the casting, and then take another move action afterwards.
Question #1
How do Mobile Spellcasting and Hide work together?
For example, he has an enhanced speed of 60, and he casts then moves 55 feet (greater than half and less than full), so he has a -5 penalty due to movement. If he cast at the beginning, does the -20 penalty apply during the movement portion of the standard action?
Here is how I believe it works, so please correct me as needed. Any time you move, it necessitates an opposed hide/spot. Any time you attack, it also necessitates an opposed hide/spot. If you move, cast and then move again (mobile spellcasting), you treat the moving and casting as separate checks. So mobile spellcasting allows you to ignore the -20 penalty, since you are moving after the casting. The only penalty comes from how fast you are moving.
Question #2
How does a lack of spell components interact with the Hide skill?
For example, if you are casting a Silent Still spell (no material/focus) and the spell does not require an attack roll, do you take the -20 hide penalty? It seems like there would be no penalty, since there is nothing to be seen or heard.
Thanks for the feedback.