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Leliel
2010-06-11, 01:25 PM
There is no better way to put this:

I want to create a magebred character with a little "Inspired" pedigree, and I want to know exactly what I'm giving the DM as plot hook.

What do the quori do beyond "eat dreams" and "rule Sarlona from behind the scenes"?

unre9istered
2010-06-11, 01:44 PM
Plot to wipe out Kalashtar. Try to build large mysterious artifacts all over the continent and eventually the world. A big part of the conflict between the Kalashtar and the Quori is the desire to end the current cycle of Dal Quor so that world can be reborn in a better form. The Quori would rather break the cycle so that Dal Quor remains in it's current nightmarish form forever. The Kalashtar believe that just by making the world a better place they can hasten that cycle. So the Quori try to make it worse to extend it.

Random NPC
2010-06-11, 01:56 PM
They are megalomaniatic tyrants and the complete foil of the Kalashtar. They are the antithesis of the Il-Yannah way of life.

They want absolute control and they do it in secret ways. Their society should reflect that. Other than that, it's up to the DM

Tanuki Tales
2010-06-11, 02:10 PM
Don't forget that both Elans and Kalashtar are Quori themselves.

Well, that is to say that the Inspired, Kalashtar and Elans are all the same kind of creature down at the bare bones, being material shells for the Quori.

Prime32
2010-06-11, 02:15 PM
Don't forget that both Elans and Kalashtar are Quori themselves.

Well, that is to say that the Inspired, Kalashtar and Elans are all the same kind of creature down at the bare bones, being material shells for the Quori.Not... really.

There's only a few (good-aligned) quori spread out across the entire kalashtar race, so their influence is dim. Whereas Eberron's elans are Jinchuuriki (http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Jinchuuriki).

Tanuki Tales
2010-06-11, 02:18 PM
Not... really.

There's only a few (good-aligned) quori spread out across the entire kalashtar race, so their influence is dim. Whereas Eberron's elans are Jinchuuriki (http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Jinchuuriki).

Not really either.

Elans are prisons for evil Quori who have sufficiently ticked off the rest of the evil Quori.

So it's more like Darkseid obliterating one of his subordinates with the OE, except said target is merely trapped in a meat puppet and can only scream out pointlessly until his allies decide to let him come back to the game board again.

Samb
2010-06-11, 07:19 PM
I would personally ban Inspired as PC unless you are playing a weird campaign on the side of the Dreaming Dark. The inspired are immortal, and care nothing about death. If this vessel dies, the quori just moves to the next Chosen. Very poor choice for adventuring.

Goals of the Quori are to bring Dal Quor back into orbit, find out why the Quori of old invaded Eberron, wipe out the kalashtar, control the dreams of mortals and stablize Dal Quor, part of which means making Eberron as stagnate as possible.

The Dreaming Dark have been pretty successful. The path of inspriation and constant brainwashing has made Reidra a stagnate society. The monoliths
control their subjects to be fearful of change and completely loyal. Reidrians fails their saves on purpose to allow their dreams to be controled. Almost everyone is content to have their lives planned out for them, and no one seeks to change their station in life. The kalashtar are more of an annoyance at best, and have been kept in check by propaganda and a centrury long siege of Adar.

In short, the Dreaming Dark are dominating the secret war and succeeding in their goals. Whatever drama can you get out of that?

Kalashtar quori are different from the Inspired in that they merged completly with their host, sacrificing their sense of self and their huge psionic powers in the process. The Inspired have all their powers intact AND the memories and abilities of it's hosts. This makes the effectivily gestalts when compared to kalashtar.

Prime32
2010-06-11, 08:16 PM
Kalashtar quori are different from the Inspired in that they merged completly with their host, sacrificing their sense of self and their huge psionic powers in the process. The Inspired have all their powers intact AND the memories and abilities of it's hosts. This makes the effectivily gestalts when compared to kalashtar.Not exactly how it worked.

The original renegade quori used a possession method which trapped them permanently in willing hosts. When their hosts had children the quori discovered that they were possessing both at once. They only lost their sense of self when the kalashtar population grew so large that each quori was spread between thousands of people, and they still have an influence.

The Inspired didn't want to be stuck in the physical world, so over hundreds of years they developed the more commonly-known possession techniques. The monoliths are partly to make possession easier.

Samb
2010-06-11, 09:10 PM
Not exactly how it worked.

The original renegade quori used a possession method which trapped them permanently in willing hosts. When their hosts had children the quori discovered that they were possessing both at once. They only lost their sense of self when the kalashtar population grew so large that each quori was spread between thousands of people, and they still have an influence.

The Inspired didn't want to be stuck in the physical world, so over hundreds of years they developed the more commonly-known possession techniques. The monoliths are partly to make possession easier.

Wrong on a few points

Poeesession implies that one one personality dominant over another, which is not the case for the kalashtar (as it is with the Inspired). Race of Eberron explicitly states that the first generation kalashtar were described as a hybrid soul and sharing the same body. This was needed to prevent the renagade Quori from returning to Dal Quor when they slept. The Inspired return to Dal Quor at night while the host sleep because they do not merge with their vessel. This the foundmental difference between the two.

The Quori used the pathway that the kalashtar used to reach Eberron but used genetic manipulation to breed the Chosen. The monolith allow the Quori to possess willing non-Chosen, but even before the first monolith was built the Quori had bred it's own subspecies that it can possess at will.

Leliel
2010-06-12, 03:04 PM
-snip-

I said Inspired heritage, not Inspired on it's own.

He has the psychic powers, to be sure, but the Chosen part of him is quite minor-simply a building block the Feral Heart (the "evil" faction of House Vadalis, the one that magebreeds humans) in an attempt to create psionic magebreds. He may not be that far removed from the Chosen, but enough to the point where he can't be ridden on command by a quori.

Mind seeding, however, is on the table.