Female in the Playground 2010

[Athaniar]

Status: Nomination Round

Now this is special the (well, at least my) first sequel! Yep, it's been over a year since the last one (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112970), and now it's back, and I am your host this time. Just note that it is just the theme that I use, the general rules will be the same as my other "in the Playground (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8232292#post8232292)" threads. Now, who can you nominate? The answer is:

Anyone who was born female and still is female (or died female).

Also, the character has to be fictional, but like in the last thread "fictionalizations" of real people are allowed. The same goes for deities: to avoid religious discussion, only nominate fictionalized versions.

Nominees (81/128)

A
Tiffany Aching (Discworld)
Angela (Angel-A)
Samus Aran (Metroid)
Petra Arkanian (Ender's Game series)
Princess Azula (Avatar: The Last Airbender)

B
Mrs. Bentina Beakley (Duck Tales)
Terra Branford (Final Fantasy VI)
Winifred Burkle (Angel)

C
Caprica 6 / The Red Woman (Battlestar Galactica Reenvisioning)
Samantha Carter (Stargate)
Chun-Li (Street Fighter II)
Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)

D
Leeloo Dallas (Fifth Element)
Daria (Daria)
Ziva David (Navy CIS)

E
Lady Eboshi (Princess Mononoke)
Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
Etna (Disgaea)

F
Fiona (Shrek)
Toph Bei Fong (Avatar: The Last Airbender)

G
Max Guevara (Dark Angel)

H
Haley (Order of the Stick)
Garona Halforcen (Warcraft)
Sir Integra Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing)
Hit Girl (Kick Ass)
Hunter (Neverwhere)

K
Kairi (Kingdom Hearts, PS2)
Chachamaru Karakuri (Mahou Sensei Negima)
Ayamu "Osaka" Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh)
Katara (Avatar: The Last Airbender)
Sarah Kerrigan (Starcraft)
Queen Kettricken (The Farseer)
Kin (Goblins)
Kira Nerys (Star Trek)
Patchouli Knowledge (Touhou)
Major Motoko Kusanagi (Ghost In The Shell)
Princess Kushana (Nausicaa Of The Valley Of The Wind)

L
The Lady of Pain (Planescape)
Rose Lalonde (MS Paint Adventures)
Laverne (Day Of The Tentacle, PC)
Tifa Lockheart (Final Fantasy VII (PS1), Kingdom Hearts II (PS2))
Louhi (Kalevala)
Lamia Loveless (Super Robot Wars series)
Lyn (Fire Emblem 7)

M
Marena of the Red Crecent (Keychain of Creation)
Veronica Mars (Veronica Mars)
Miko Miyazaki (Order of the Stick)
Rita Mordio (Tales of Vesperia)
Morrigan (Dragon Age)

N
Princess Nadia (Chrono Trigger, SNES)
Yuki Nagato (Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya)
Subaru Nakajima (Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS)
Nami (One Piece)
Nefertiti (Sinuhe Egyptian)
Neytiri (Avatar)
Nyu / Lucy (Elfen Lied)

O
Leia Organa (Star Wars)

P
Jaina Proudmore (Warcraft)

R
Rakka (Haibane Renmei)
Ellen Ripley (Alien)
Laverne Roberts (Scrubs)

S
Setsuna Sakurazaki (Mahou Sensei Negima)
Sami (Advance Wars)
San (Princess Mononoke)
Schala (Chrono Trigger)
Secret (Keychain of Creation)
Bastila Shan (Knights of the Old Republic)
Commander Shepard (female) (Mass Effect)
Naoto Shirogane (Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4)
Arya Stark (A Song of Fire and Ice)
Chloe Sullivan (Smallville)
Buffy Anne Summers (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
Haruhi Suzumiya (The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya)

T
Noriko Takaya (Gunbuster)
Tiamat (Dungeons & Dragons)

V
Seras Victoria (Hellsing)

W
Ivy Walker (The Village)
Esmeralda Weatherwax (Discworld)

X
Xena (Xena: Warrior Princess)

Y
Yoko (Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann)

Z
Zelda (Legend of Zelda)


My own nominations:

Neytiri (Avatar)
Ziva David (Navy CIS)
Max Guevara (Dark Angel)
Xena (Xena: Warrior Princess)
Samantha Carter (Stargate)
Miko Miyazaki (Order of the Stick)
Garona Halforcen (Warcraft)
Kira Nerys (Star Trek)
Tiamat (Dungeons & Dragons)
Zelda (Legend of Zelda)

[Whoracle]

Laverne Roberts (Scrubs)
Nyu / Lucy (Elfen Lied)
Princess Nadia (Chrono Trigger, SNES)
The Kobold (maybe deputable, Secret Of Mana, SNES)
Caprica 6 / The Red Woman (Battlestar Galactica Reenvisioning)
Mrs. Bentina Beakley (Duck Tales)
Major Motoko Kusanagi (Ghost In The Shell)
Kairi (Kingdom Hearts, PS2)
Tifa Lockheart (Final Fantasy VII (PS1), Kingdom Hearts II (PS2))
Laverne (Day Of The Tentacle, PC)

[_Zoot_]

Lady Eboshi (Princess Mononoke)
Princess Kushana (Nausicaa Of The Valley Of The Wind)
Haruhi Suzumiya (The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya)
Seras Victoria (Hellsing)

[Cubey]

Not allowed
Transsexuals.
I declare shanenigans on this one.

If a character is biologically female and identifies as female, why should she be excluded only because she wasn't born biologically female?



Synthetic beings (unless you can prove why they should count)


I'll try to prove that, yes.

There is a lot of fictional characters who, while created synthetically, are obviously female - that is, not only do they look female, but also identify with the female sex. Some even have the appropriate... parts, but let's not think about it too much. I'll just drop the TVTropes page here (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RobotGirl).

Also, I suggest we either limit nominations to 5-8 per person, or broaden the nomination list rather than having a strict cap. Otherwise we'll run out of characters really soon.


Now, here are my nominations:
-Subaru Nakajima (Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS)
-Ayamu "Osaka" Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh)
-Yuki Nagato (Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya)
-Lamia Loveless (Super Robot Wars series)
-Patchouli Knowledge (Touhou)
-Setsuna Sakurazaki (Mahou Sensei Negima)
-Chachamaru Karakuri (likewise)
-Noriko Takaya (Gunbuster)

And probably many more, but I'll leave it at 8 nominations so far.

@Whoracle:
If by the Kobold you mean the third party member (black magic-using Sprite), then I'm pretty sure that's a guy.

[Whoracle]

@Whoracle:
If by the Kobold you mean the third party member (black magic-using Sprite), then I'm pretty sure that's a guy.

Yeah, that's who I meant. Internationally it has never been stated what gender it was, afaik, but in the german version it was female. Plus it being female is more fitting with the magic theme in the setting, i.e. males being the defenders of the casting females. Fits, too, if one counts Seiken Densetsu 3, if I remember correctly.

But if everyone else feels this is inaccurate, then disregard the sprite.

[Cubey]

Actually, after performing research (rereading the TVTropes and Wikipedia articles), it seems the Sprite's gender is left ambigous on purpose. The English version had it as male, but like you said - the German went in the opposite direction. So I guess the nomination counts.

[Grumman]

I declare shanenigans on this one. We have several male-to-female transsexuals even on this very forum - are you going to tell them they do not count as real women?

And if not, why should we treat fictional characters differently?
I don't believe it is possible to answer this question without breaking board rules. At the least, it would get this thread locked due to derailment.

[Cubey]

Perhaps I should re-edit the question to make it less likely to invite rules breaking/thread locking then. In fact, doing it now.

[Mando Knight]

Samus Aran (Metroid)
Yoko (Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann)

That is all.

[AstralFire]

I'm of a mind to agree with Cubey and not touching this topic unless that's changed.

[Kaelaroth]

Buffy Anne Summers (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
Winifred Burkle (Angel)
Chloe Sullivan (Smallville)
Veronica Mars (Veronica Mars)
Daria (Daria)

[Eldariel]

Terra Branford (Final Fantasy VI)
Lady of Pain, The (Planescape)
Chun Li (Street Fighter II)
Schala (Chrono Trigger)
Queen Kettricken (The Farseer)
Arya Stark (A Song of Fire and Ice)
Louhi (Kalevala)
Nefertiti (Sinuhe Egyptian)
Leia Organa (Star Wars)
Sarah Kerrigan (Starcraft)

[Allan Surgite]

I'm seco-, uh, thirding Cubey. While I have not done this sort of thing before, I was considering getting involved, yet was turned off by that rule. Even if the characters I was going to nominate probably would not fall under that definition, it still irks me somewhat. Mmhm.

[Nerd-o-rama]

I really am going to have to third fourth allowing ->female transsexuals, here.

[Istari]

Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Jaina Proudmore (Warcraft)
Bastila Shen (Knights of the Old Republic)
Lyn (Fire Emblem 7)
Sami (Advance Wars)
Morrigan (Dragon Age)

[Serpentine]

Same, but I've gotta ask, how many transexual characters are there?

edit: Ripley from Alien.

[Dacia Brabant]

Fifthing Sixthing the sentiment. I probably won't be nominating any who would fall under the rule but that doesn't mean I agree with it. This goes for m-to-f transsexuals as well as synthetics. There are so many fembots/female-identity cyborgs in sci-fi that it would be silly to exclude their fans.

[Serpentine]

I think the "synthetic beings" one depends whether the contest is humans-only, or any female. If it's not humans-only, then they should be allowed, and also:

Nala.

[Weimann]

Can I ask, just so I know, are we determining which female character is the most liked, or which female character is the most female (by some interpretation of the word)?

In any case:

Marena of the Red Crecent (Keychain of Creation)
Secret (Keychain of Creation)
Sir Integra Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing)
Esmeralda Weatherwax (Discworld)
Tiffany Aching (Discworld)
Rose Lalonde (MS Paint Adventures)
Kin (Goblins)
Nami (One Piece)

[Tengu_temp]

Okay, let's repeat my list of submissions from before and add some new ones.

Celes Chere (Final Fantasy 6)
Ibis Douglas (Super Robot Wars)
Latooni Subota (Super Robot Wars)
Saber (Fate/Stay Night)
Hayate Yagami (Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha)
Ayase Yue (Mahou Sensei Negima)
Aya Shameimaru (Touhou)
Suika Ibuki (Touhou)

Not interested.

[The Vorpal Tribble]

Bet you didn't see these coming...

* Ivy Walker (The Village)
* Hit Girl (Kick Ass)
* Petra Arkanian (Ender's Game series)
* Angela (Angel-A)
* Hunter (Neverwhere)
* Fiona (Shrek)



If a character is biologically female and identifies as female, why should she be excluded only because she wasn't born biologically female?
*headdesks*

[Tengu_temp]

*headdesks*


What's so headdesk-worthy about the notion that transsexual characters should be allowed to participate?

[Dacia Brabant]

I think the "synthetic beings" one depends whether the contest is humans-only, or any female. If it's not humans-only, then they should be allowed, and also:

Nala.

The OP nominated Tiamat from D&D, so I'm presuming it's not humans-only.

[Athaniar]

{Scrubbed}

[PhoeKun]

Same, but I've gotta ask, how many transexual characters are there?

Somewhere around this many. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transgender_characters_in_film_and_televis ion)


I understand that some of you might not agree with all of my rules, but this is MY thread. If you don't want to vote in it, then don't.

I am insulted by YOUR thread. Just so we're clear.

[Athaniar]

{Scrubbed}

[Dispozition]

San (Princess Mononoke)
Rakka (Haibane Renmei)
Bridget (Guilty Gear)Hurr hurr
Leeloo Dallas (Multi Pass)...Wait, no, (Fifth Element)

[Dacia Brabant]

{Scrubbed}

Fair enough, but just so you realize this type of thread by its nature is one that's for the whole community. Some inclusiveness and respect for other viewpoints might have been helpful.

Besides, another thread can always be made.

[Zevox]

Well, lets see, I'll go with...

- Katara (Avatar: The Last Airbender)
- Princess Azula (Avatar: The Last Airbender)
- Toph Bei Fong (Avatar: The Last Airbender)
- Haley Starshine (The Order of the Stick)
- Commander Sheperd (Mass Effect - female version)
- Rita Mordio (Tales of Vesperia)
- Naoto Shirogane (Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4)
- Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
- Etna (Disgaea)

Zevox

[Tengu_temp]

I'm cancelling my nominations. I do not want to participate in this.

[Tirian]

but this is MY thread.

Did you keep the receipt?

[Eldariel]

Sigh. Only in the Playground is the ability to nominate transvestites in a "Most Popular Female"-contest a threshold-question...

[kamikasei]

Sigh. Only in the Playground is the ability to nominate transvestites in a "Most Popular Female"-contest a threshold-question...

"Transsexual" does not mean "transvestite". And hey, if the characters aren't popular then they'll get eliminated. Why exclude them to start with?

[Athaniar]

Nominations tallied.



Bridget (Guilty Gear)Hurr hurr

No.

[Roland St. Jude]

Sheriff of Moddingham: First, no one owns a thread. You don't get to tell others what to do in YOUR thread. Second, this thread is pointless spam. It's just a list of things. There's no discussion intended or offered. The closest thing to discussion in this thread is personal attack and counter-attack.

Don't restart this thread or anything like it. Consider this a moratorium on voting and polling threads.

The other vote threads currently underway are under review. They are likely to be permitted to conclude and new ones not restarted. If new ones are allowed going forward, it's likely to be with some limits in place (similar to the guidelines for Vs. threads) that will ensure some discussion and not just lists and votes based on popularity.