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Aeromyre
2010-06-22, 07:27 AM
Ok so I'm using a Skeletal Champion template to build a standard enemy that the players will run into. this is what confuses me:
Saves: Base save bonuses for racial Hit
Dice are Fort +1/3 HD, Ref +1/3 HD,
and Will +1/2 HD + 2.
So do I add 1/3 and 1/2 of their HD or is it simply 1/3 and 1/2 their HD?

Runestar
2010-06-22, 07:31 AM
As an undead, skeletons have base reflex and fort saves = 1/3 of their undead HD, round down. Their base will saves is equal to their 2+(undead HD/2), similar to a wizard. :smallsmile:

kamikasei
2010-06-22, 07:31 AM
Those are the bad/good save progressions. They should have been written either as "HD/3" or "+1/3 per HD".

Essentially, the creature will have the base saves of a wizard of a level equal to its HD.

Aeromyre
2010-06-22, 07:32 AM
As an undead, skeletons have base reflex and fort saves = 1/3 of their undead HD, round down. Their base will saves is equal to their 2+(undead HD/2), similar to a wizard. :smallsmile:

Awesome thanks man

KillianHawkeye
2010-06-22, 12:54 PM
Note that this will replace their existing base saves from racial Hit Die, but any saves from class levels will be unaffected.