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Thefurmonger
2010-07-06, 01:07 PM
hey all.

So I'm getting into a Pathfinder game set in Eberron.

The DM is letting us use 3.5 stuff as well if we want to (Use a Pathfinder version if there is one tho)

Anyway I am doing a Human Beguiler (PHB II). (May dip mindbender at 6th)

We are starting from LVL 1 and going to around 14ish.

I am not trying for any high TO cheese, just a good fun character.


As Pathfinder has combined many of the skills I end up with a nice list.
Acrobatics
Appraise
Bluff
Diplo
Disable Device
Linguistics
Perception (Int)
Sense Motive (Int)
Sleight of hand (Int)
Stelth (Human)
UMD (Favored Class)

Stats are as follows (After racial mods)
Str: 10
Dex: 13
Con: 12
Int: 17
Wis: 11
Cha: 14

For feats I'm going with
Spell focus Enchant
Unsettiling Enchantment (flaw)
Eschew Materials (Human)

As I level the plan is
3rd: Obtain Familier (Raven)
5th: Versatile Spellcaster (Races of the Dragon)
5th Bonus: Silent Spell
7th: Imp. familier (Imp)
9th: ???????
10th Bonus: Still Spell
11th: ???????
13th: ???????


My main question is are there any great Eberron or Pathfinder feats I dont know about? (I have always played 3.5 and older games)
The one that auto extends all enchantmets looked decent, but honestly enchantment duration has never been a big issue for me.

Thanks all.

gorfnab
2010-07-06, 02:41 PM
A one level dip into Mindbender (Complete Arcane) at 6th or 7th level will net you telepathy, so that you can take the Mindsight feat from Lords of Madness, and offset Advance Learning so that you can pick up Shadow Conjuration. Darkstalker from Lords of Madness is very nice for scouting. Mastery of Twisted Shadow or Mastery of Dreams from Players Guide to Eberron may also be worth looking into.

Roga
2010-07-06, 03:25 PM
I'm playing a changeling Beguiler in my game :smalltongue:
I'm focused on Charm/Dominate and such.
I'd recommend:
Combat Charm (Enemies don't get the +5 to their save to your Charm spells for being on combat with your allies.)
Commanding (+1 DC with [Compulsion] Spells, stacks with Spell focus)
- (Req Persuasive)

Other feats I got relate more to my changeling impersonating other classes.

Optimystik
2010-07-06, 04:58 PM
I'd get more Con - you don't need that much charisma with your charms and illusions, but more HP and fort saves can always be a bonus. Swap the 14 and the 12 into Con and Cha respectively.

subject42
2010-07-06, 05:06 PM
It's not high-op, but Pathfinder toughness is nicer than it was in straight 3.5. It gives you an immediate boost to HP, then gives you an extra hit point at every level.

The Cat Goddess
2010-07-06, 05:16 PM
Reserve Feats improve Effective Caster Level... Look them up in Complete Mage & Complete Champion.

Thefurmonger
2010-07-06, 06:33 PM
I'd get more Con - you don't need that much charisma with your charms and illusions, but more HP and fort saves can always be a bonus. Swap the 14 and the 12 into Con and Cha respectively.

The extra Cha is really more of a Rp choice, that and the fact that we are starting from 1st.

The rest of the party is really fighty, so I am doing the "Face" role. Im sure that by the numbers your right, the con would help more.

But for the RP of the character, I just see him as better looking then he is healthy.

Also I could not find a reserve feat for enchanment spells, all i could find was one for glamers.

Paul H
2010-07-08, 09:05 AM
Hi

Eldritch Theurge (Complete Mage Pg 57) is full CL for both Arcane & Warlock.

Had a Changeling character in an Eberron game - the GM allowed Beguiler as a Favoured Class, so I was able to multiclass no prob.

Went 4 levels of Beguiler, one level Warlock, then Eldritch Theurge.
Needed Practiced Spellcaster (Warlock) for quick entry. You could go Warlock 2 for unlimited Detect Magic.

Warlocks get very useful Invocations:
Complete Arcane

Devil's Sight: Gain Darkvision & see in Magical Darkness. Lasts 24 hrs
See the Unseen: Gain Darkvision & See Invis. Lasts 24 hrs
Beguiling Influence: +6 Bluff, Diplomacy, Intimidate. Lasts 24 hrs

Complet Mage

All Seeing Eyes: Comp Langs (Written only), +6 Search & Spot. Lasts 24 hrs
Otherworldy Whispers: +6 Know (Arcana, Planes, Religion).

Thanks
Paul H

Paul H
2010-07-08, 09:15 AM
Hi

Unsettling Enchantment (CM) is good. Any time someone has to make a save vs one of your enchantments, they suffer -2 penalty to attacks & AC for one round.

Prereq SF Enchants, or Enchanter (spec Wizard).

Thanks
Paul H

Paul H
2010-07-08, 09:22 AM
Hi

Sorry for the long post, but just dug up my (retired) character.

Alaina Merdin

Race: Half Elf (Actually a Changeling in disguise)
Class: Beguiler 6 Warlock 1 Eldritch Theurge 2

Saves: F 5 R 9 W 11
Attack: Eldritch Blast (60' range) +8, Dam 4D6 (SR applies)
AC 21 T 16 FF 17 (Mithril Shirt+1, Dex, Deflection+2 )
HP 47
Init +4 (Dex)
DR 1/Cold Iron

Aberrant Dragonmark: Improvisation (CL3)

Gender: Female (irrelevent since I'm a Changeling. Depends on gender of someone I, erm, 'like'.......)
Alignment: CN
Region of Birth: Wherever DM says
Age: 27
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 147lb
Hair: Brown (Currently - but can change if I need to..)

Str 9 Dex 18 Con 10 Int 21 Wis 10 Cha 12 (All include item bonuses)

Notable Skills:
Bluff +9
Concentration +13
Decipher Script +6
Disable Device +16
Hide +12
Know Arcana +13
Know Local +6
Know Planes +13
Listen +9
Move Silently +9
Open Lock +11
Search +19
Sleight of Hand +5
Spellcraft +12
Tumble +9 (5 ranks)
UMD +13
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Feats: Spell Focus Enchantment, Unsettling Enchantment, (Silent Spell as class ability) Practiced Spellcaster (Warlock). Spell Penetration
Preferred Weapons: Spells, Eldritch Blast
Armour: Mithril Chain Shirt +1/Deathward/Stamina

Languages: Common,Elven,Draconic,Abyssal,Celestial


Items of Interest: Mithril Shirt +1/Death Ward/Stamina (underneath my tunic), Gauntlets Dex+2, Healing Belt, Cloak Cha /Resistance (All +2), Everlasting Rations, Silver Dagger, Masterwork Thieves Tools, Circlet of Mages/Headband Int +2, Armband Elusive Action, Goggles of the Golden Sun, Melf Ring, Wand Lssr Vigor (Lvl1), Lssr Iron Ward Crystal (DR 3/-), Talisman of the Disk, Adventuring Gear, Ring Protection +2

Eldritch Essence (Last 24 Hrs):
1) All Seeing Eyes (Comp Langs for written words, +6 Search, +6 Spot)
2) Devil's Sight (Darkvision 30', see in magical darkness)

Thanks
Paul H