Diplomacy ITP

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Here is the ongoing record of the Diplomacy game.

Current status:
Game finished in Autumn 1912 turn, on the 12th January 2010.
Congratulations to the winner, Murska, and thanks to all involved.

Players (by country represented):

Austria (red pieces): DEAD
England (dark blue): DEAD
France (light blue): The Thrice Dead Caeser (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/member.php?u=46275) (PM) (played by Thrice Dead Cat)
Germany (black): Biswajit the Crazy (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/member.php?u=25979) (PM / Skype /MSN - most to least preferred) (played by Deathslayer7)
Italy (green): DEAD
Russia (white): Murska (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/member.php?u=28824) - Winner
Turkey (yellow): DEAD

Players drawn randomly to countries, using the Excel rand() function.

Summary of last move:

GAME ENDS:
Russia finishes the turn with 19 supply centres, winning the game.

SUPPLY CENTRES:
France gains Liverpool and Tunis, but loses London.
Italy loses Tunis
Russia gains London, Kiel, Berlin, Munich and Belgium (+4)

FAILED MOVES:
France:
F Tunis to Ionian Sea (Stand-off with Russian F Ion)
F Tyrhennian supports Tunis to Ionian Sea (Support broken by Russian F Tus)
A North Africa to Tunis (Blocked by F Tun)
F Spain to Portugal (Stand-off with Russian F MAO)
F Sweden supports Denmark (Support cut by attack from Russian F Fin)

Germany:
F Bot - StP (Stand-off with Russian A Lvn)
F Berlin Hold (DISLODGED by Russian A Pru, supported by F Kie)

Russia:
F Fin - Swe (Stand-off with French F Swe)
A Lvn - StP (Stand-off with German F BOT)
F Wal - Lon (Shopping in Harrod's [Harrod's isn't on the Thames, but you find a branch of Primark instead.])
F Ion - Nap (Stand-off with French A Nap)
F Tus - Tyn (Stand-off with French F Tyn)
F MaO - Por (Stand-off with French F Spa)

Map
Last update: 5:50AM January 12th 2010. (http://www.webs.com/suicidalducklings/diplomacy.jpg)
Position at after moves but before retreats, builds or disbands. Russia has won, so this is the final game position too.

Supply Centres:

Austria (DEAD) 0

England (DEAD) 0

France (light blue) 12:
Paris
Brest
Marseilles
Spain
Venezia
Edinburgh
Napoli
Denmark
Sweden
Tunisia
Liverpool

Germany (black) 2:
Holland
Vienna

Italy (DEAD) 0

Russia (white) 19:
Moscow
Warsaw
Stevastopol
St. Petersburg
Rumania
Ankara
Bulgaria
Greece
Constantinople
Smyrna
Serbia
Budapest
Trieste
Portugal
Norway
London
Berlin
Munich
Kiel
Belgium

Turkey (yellow) 0:
DEAD


Moves so far:

Spring 1901:

Austria:
F Trieste - Albania
A Budapest - Serbia
A Vienna - Galicia

England:
F Edinburgh - Norwegian sea
F London - North sea
A Liverpool - Edinburgh

France:
Army Paris to Picardy
Fleet Brest to English Channel
Army Marsielles to Spain

Germany:
F KIE - DEN
A BER - KIE
A MUN - RHR

Italy:
Army in Venezia: Move to Tyrolia
Army in Roma: Move to Tuscany
Fleet in Naopli: Move to Roma

Russia:
F Stp Bot
A Mos Stp
A War Ukr
F Sev Rum

Turkey:
A con-bul
F ank-con
A sym sings bad romance

Autumn 1901

Austria:
A Galicia - Warsaw
F Albania - Greece
A Serbia supports F Albania - Greece

England:
F Norwegian Sea - Clyde
A Edinburgh - Norway
F North Sea C Edinburgh - Norway

France:
Army Spain to Portugal
Fleet English Channel supports Army Picardy to Belgium
Army Picardy to Belgium (for glorious waffles)

Germany:
F Denmark- Sweden
A Kiel- Mun
A Rhur - Holland

Italy:
A-Tyrolia move to Vienna
A-Tuscany move to Venezia
F-Rome hold position

Russia:
No moves received.

Turkey:
No moves received.

Add / remove units phase
Austria gained armies in Trieste and Budapest.
England gained a fleet in London.
France gained an army in Paris, and a fleet in Brest.
Germany gained an army in Berlin, and a fleet in Kiel.
Italy placed a fleet in Napoli.
Turkey didn't submit anything.

Spring 1902:

Austria:
A Warsaw holds
A Trieste - Vienna - Repulsed by holding Italian army.
A Budapest - Rumania
A Serbia supports A Budapest - Rumania
F Greece - Aegean Sea

England:
F London-English Channel
F North Sea S F London-English Channel
F Clyde-North Atlantic
A Norway takes a nap

France:
Army Portugal moves to Spain
Army Paris moves to Burgundy
Army Belgium moves to Wales - Convoy failed.
Fleet English channel convoys Belgium to Wales - Dislodged to Wales by English fleet.
Fleet Brest moves to MAO

Germany:
Fleet Sweden - Norway - repulsed by an English Army.
Fleet Kiel - Denmark
Army Holland- Holds
Army Munich-Tyrolia - repulsed by an Italian Army.
Army Berlin-Prussia

Italy:
F-Napoli move to Tyrhennian Sea
F-Roma hold position
A-Venezia move to Tyrolia - repulsed by a German army.
A-Vienna hold position

Russia:
No moves submitted. Rumanian fleet dislodged to Stevastopol.

Turkey:
No moves submitted.


Autumn 1902:

Austria:
A Warsaw holds
A Trieste - Venezia
A Serbia - Bulgaria
A Rumania supports A Serbia - Bulgaria
F Aegean Sea - Greece

England:
F English Channel - Mid Atlantic
F North Atlantic S F English Channel - Mid Atlantic
F North Sea - English Channel
A Norway super holds

France:
Fleet MAO moves to Brest
Fleet Wales moves to Liverpool
Belgium holds due to something in the waffles.
Burgundy supports Belgium.
Army Spain holds, running with the bulls.

Germany:
A Munich - Tyrolia
A Prussia Supports Russia against Warsaw
F Denmark hold
F Sweden - Norway
Army Holland supports Belgium

Italy:
F Roma move to Napoli
A Vienna move to Budapest
A Venezia move to Trieste
F Tyrhenian Sea hold position

Russia:
F Sev-Rum
A Ukr S F Sev-Rum
A Mos-War
F Bot Holds

Turkey:
A Bulgaria - Serbia


Spring 1903

Austria
A Trieste - Vienna
A Galicia - Budapest
A Serbia supports A Galicia - Budapest

England:
A Norway - Sweden
F Nat - Clyde (Stand off with French fleet in Liverpool)
F English Channel - Brest (Stand off with French fleet in Brest).

France:
A Spain to Gascony
F Mar to Spain (SC)
F Brest to English Channel (Stand off with English fleet in ENG)
A Bel supports Holland
A Bur to Picardy
F Liverpool to Clyde (Stand off with English fleet in NAt)

Germany:
(Munich - Bohemia)
Tyrolia Supports Munich - Bohemia
Prussia - Silesia
F Denmark - North Sea
Fleet Sweden - Norway (Dislodged by English army from Norway, with support from Russian fleet BOT) F Swe retreats to Skagerak.
A Holland holds

Italy:
A Budapest move to Trieste
A Venezia assist A Budapest in its move to Trieste
F Napoli move to Apulia
F Tyrhenian Sea move to Tunisia
A Roma assist A Venezia

Russia:
F StP NC - Nwy
F BOT S A Nwy-Swe
A War S A Ukr - Gal
A Ukr - Gal
F Rum Holds

Turkey:
MIA


Autumn 1903:

Austria:
A Vienna holds (Dislodged by German A Tyrolia with support from German A Bohemia.)
A Serbia - Trieste
A Budapest supports A Serbia - Trieste

England:
F Nat - Clyde
F English channel - London
A Sweden holds

France:
A Picardy supports A Belgium
A Belgium supports A Holland
F Spain moves to MAO
A Gas moves to Mar
F Brest moves to English Channel
F Liverpool holds.

Germany:
A Holland Holds
A Tyrolia attacks Vienna with Bohemia support (Stand off with Austrian A Vienna with Russian A Gal support)
Bohemia supports A tyrolia
Silesisa Holds
Fleet North Sea attack Edinburgh
Fleet Skagerrak attacks Norway (Stand-off with Russian F Nor)

Italy:
No moves received.
(Trieste army dislodged).

Russia:
F Nwy S F BOT - Swe (Support cut by attack from German F Ska).
F BOT - Swe (Stand off with English A Swe).
A War S A Gal
A Gal S A Vie
F Rum - Bul (Stand-off with Turkish army).

Retreats:
Italy: A Tri - Alb

Disbanded and built:
England: A Swe disbanded. (Inferred move)
Italy: A Rom disbanded.
Russia: A Ste built.

Spring 1904:

Austria:
A Vienna holds
A Trieste supports A Vienna
A Budapest - Serbia

England:
F Lon-York
F Clyde holds

France:
F Liverpool supports Picardy to Wales
F English Channel convoys Picardy to Wales
Army Picardy to Wales
F MAO supports English Channel
A Bel supports A Hol (A Hol moved.)
A Mar to Piemonte

Germany:
Fleet Edinburgh hold
Fleet Sakgerrak North Sea
A Holland Kiel
Tyrolia shall support Bohemia.
Bohemia shall support Tyrolia.
Silesia shall support Bohemia

Italy:
No moves submitted.

Russia:
F Nwy S F Bot - Swe
F Bot - Swe
A Sev - Arm
F Rum - Bla
A Gal - Rum
A War Holds

Autumn 1904:

Austria:
A Vienna holds (Forced to retreat by German A Tyrolia, supported by A Bohemia) - retreats to Budapest.
A Trieste - Tyrolia
A Serbia supports A Rumania - Bulgaria

England:
F Clyde-Lvp (Stand off with F Liverpool)
F York A F Cly-Lvp (This doesn't work.)

France:
Army Wales to London
Fleet English Channel supports Wales to London
Fleet MAO moves to Western Mediterranean
Fleet Liverpool holds
Army Belgium moves to Ruhr
Army Piemonte moves to Tuscany

Germany:
Fleet north sea supports edinburgh
fleet edinburgh hold
Army Kiel - Denmark
Army Bohemia supports Army Tyrolia into Vienna
Army silesia hold
Army Tyrolia - Vienna

Italy:
No moves submitted (again)

Russia:
A Arm - Ank
F BLA S A Arm - Ank
A Rum - Bul
A War - Gal
F Swe S F Nwy
F Nwy S F Swe

Turkish Armies in Bulgaria and Ankara disbanded.

Build orders:
Austria builds an army in Trieste.
France build a fleet in Marseilles.
Germany builds an army in Munich.
Russia built a fleet in St. Petersburg (SC), an army in Moscow and an army in Warsaw.

Spring 1905:

Austria:
A Serbia - Greece (Stand-off with Italian army from Albania.)
A Tyrolia holds
A Trieste supports A Tyrolia
A Budapest - Vienna

France:
Army Ruhr to Burgundy
Army Paris to Gascony
Army London enjoys the fine British tea and holds.
Fleet Liverpool to North Atlantic
Fleet English Channel to North Sea
Army Tuscany to Rome (Stand-off with Italian army from Venezia.)
Fleet Marseilles to Gulf of Lyon
Fleet West Mediterranean to Tyrrenian Sea

Germany:
Fleet Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
Fleet North Sea- Denmark
Army Denmark - Kiel
Silesia supports Vienna into Galicia
Bohemia supports Vienna into Galicia
Munich Holds
Vienna - Galicia

Italy:
A Venezia - Roma (Stand-off with French army from Tuscany.)
F Apulia - Venezia (Blocked by Fleet in Venezia.
F Tunisia holds
A Albania - Greece (Stand-off with Austrian army from Serbia.)

Russia:
F Swe S F Nwy
F Nwy S F Swe
F StP SC - BOT
A Mos - Liv
A War S A Gal
A Gal S A War (Forced to retreat by Germany army Vienna, supported by armies in Bohemia and Silesia.)
A Ank S F BLA - Con
A Bul S F BLA - Con
F BLA - Con

Retreats:
Russia:
Army Galacia retreats to Ukraine.

Autumn 1905:

Austria:
A Tyrolia - Venezia - stand-off with fleet Venezia.
A Trieste supports A Vienna
A Vienna holds
A Serbia - Budapest

France:
Fleet North Sea supports Fleet Norwegian Sea into Norway
Fleet North Atlantic moves to Fleet Norwegian Sea
Army London holds.
Army Gascony moves to Spain
Army Burgundy moves to Marseilles
Fleet Gulf of Lyon moves to Western Mediterranean
Army Tuscany moves to Roma
Fleet Tyr Sea supports Army Tuscany to Roma

Germany:
Galicia Hold
Silesia - Prussia (Stand-off with Army Livonia)
Bohemia - Silesia (Blocked by Army Silesia)
Munich Hold
Kiel Hold
Fleet Denmark - Sweden (Stand-off with Fleet Sweden)
Fleet Nowegian Sea - Norway

Italy:
No moves submitted.

Russia:
A Ukraine S A Warsaw
A Warsaw S A Livonia - Prussia
A Livonia - Prussia (Stand-off with Army Silesia)
F BOT - Baltic Sea
F Sweden S F Norway (Support cut by Fleet Denmark)
F Norway S F Sweden (Dislodged by Fleet Norwegian Sea, with support from Fleet North Sea)
A Bulgaria Holds
F Constantinople S A Ankara - Smyrna
A Ankara - Smyrna

Build orders:
France: Army in Paris
Russia: Fleet St.P NC

Spring 1906:

Austria:
A Tyrolia - Bohemia
A Vienna supports A Tyrolia - Bohemia
A Budapest holds
A Trieste - Serbia

France:
Army Marseilles to Piemonte
Army Rome supports Army Venice (Stand-off with Italian army from Venezia).
Army Spain to North Africa
Fleet Western Mediterranean convoys Army Spain to North Africa
Army Paris to Gascony
Fleet Tyr supports Fleet Western Mediterranean
Fleet North Sea to Skagerak
Fleet Norwegian Sea to Barents Sea (Stand-off with Russian F Barents Sea)
Army London holds

Germany:
Army Galicia - Rumnia (Stand-off with Russian army from Ukraine)
Army Munich - Berlin
Army Silesia - Prussia
Army Bohemia - Munich
Fleet Norway Sweden
Fleet Denmark supports Fleet Norway - Sweden*
Army Kiel supports Denmark (Attacked by Russian Fleet from the Baltic Sea)

Italy:
F apulia-napoli
A Venezia-Roma (Stand-off with French army Roma)
F Tunisia - Ionian sea

Russia:
F Con - Aeg
A Smy - Con
A Bul - Gre
A Ukr - Rum (Stand-off with German army from Galacia)
A Liv - War (Blocked by Russian army in Warsaw)
A War - Ukr (Blocked by Russian army in Ukraine)
F Bal - Kie
F Swe S F StP Nc - Nwy (Dislodged to BOT by German Fleet Norway, with support from German Fleet Denmark)
F StP Nc - Nwy
F Bar S F StP Nc - Nwy (Support cut by attack from French Fleet NRG).

Autumn 1906:

Austria:
A Budapest - Rumania (Stand-off with Russian A Ukr)
A Serbia supports A Budapest - Rumania (Support cut by attack from Russian A Serbia.)
A Vienna - Trieste
A Bohemia - Vienna

France:
Army London Holds
Fleet Norwegian Sea to Norway
Fleet Skagerak supports Fleet Norwegian Sea to Norway
Army Gascony Holds
Fleet Western Mediterranean supports Army North Africa to Tunis
Army North Africa to Tunis
Fleet Tyrhennian Sea to Rome - Blocked by French A Roma.
Army Rome to Venice - Stand-off with Italian A Venezia.
Army Piedmonte supports Army Rome to Venice

Germany:
F Sweden hold
F denmark support Sweden
A gal - boh
A mun suuports A Gal - boh
A Prussia - Silesia
A Berlin Hold
A Kiel Hold

Italy:
A Ven - Rom - Stand-off with French A Roma.
F Nap S A Ven - Rom
F Ion - Adr

Russia:
F Bar - Nwg
F Nwy S F Bar - Nwg (Dislodged by French F NRG.)
F GoB - Swe - Defending German fleet holds successfully.
F Bal S F GoB - Swe
A Lvn S A War
A War S A Bud - Gal (Supported move wasn't made.)
A Ukr - Rum (Stand-off with Austrian A Bud)
A Con - Bul
A Gre - Ser (Stand-off with Austrian A Ser)
F Aeg - Ion

Retreats:
Russian F Nwy to BOT.

Builds:
France: F Brest, A Marseilles

Disband:
Inferred: Italy F Adriatic Sea.

Spring 1907

Austria:
A Budapest - Galicia
A Vienna supports A Budapest - Galicia
A Trieste - Tyrolia (Stand-off with German A Boh)
A Serbia holds (Dislodged by Russian A Bul with support form A Gre).

France:
London holds
Norway supports Skagerak to North Sea.
Skagerak to North Sea.
Fleet Brest to English Channel.
Army Gascony to Burgundy (Stand-off with German A Mun)
Piemonte to Tuscany.
Marseilles to Piemonte.
Tunisia to North Africa.
West Mediterranean to Tyrhennian Sea (Blocked by French F TYN)
Tyrhennian Sea supports Rome to Naples (Support cut by Russian F ION)
Rome to Naples (Stand-off with Italian F Nap)

Germany:
F Swe S F Den - Ska.
F Den - Ska.
A Boh - Tyr (Stand-off with Austrian A Tri)
A Mun - Bur (Stand-off with French A Gas)
A Kie - Hol.
A Sil - Boh (Blocked by A Boh)
A Ber - Kie.

Italy:
F Nap S A Ven - Rom (Support cut by by attack from French A Roma with support from F TYN)
A Ven - Rom (Stand-off with French A Rom)

Russia:
F Nwg - Cly.
F Nth - Lon (Stand-off with French A Lon, dislodged by French F Ska with support from F Nor)
F Bal - Den.
F GoB - StP SC.
A Liv - War (Blocked by A War)
A War - Gal (Stand-off with Austrian A Bud with support from A Vie)
A Ukr - Rum.
A Bul - Ser.
A Gre S A Bul - Ser.
F Ion - Tyn (Stand-off with French F TYN)

Retreats were:

Austrian A Serbia to Albania;
Russian F North Sea to Belgium.

Autumn 1907:

Austria:
A Galicia - Ukraine (Stand-off with Russian A War).
A Vienna - Budapest
A Albania - Serbia (Stand off with Russian A Ser, supported by A Rum. DISLODGED by Russian A Gre, supported by F ION)
A Trieste supports A Albania - Serbia

France:
Army North Africa to Tunis
Fleet West Mediterranean to Tyrhennian Sea (Blocked by F TYN)
Fleet Tyrhennian Sea to Naples (Stand-off with Italian F Nap)
Rome supports Fleet Tyrhennian Sea to Naples (Support cut by Italian A Venice.)
Piemonte supports Tuscany to Venice
Tuscany to Venice
Gascony to Burgundy (Stand-off with German A Mun)
Army London to York
English Channel supports North Sea to Belgium
North Sea to Belgium (Stand-off with Russian F Bel, supported by German A Hol)
Norway to Saint Petersburg North Coast (Stand-off with Russian A Lvn. DISLODGED by German F Ska, supported by F Swe)

Germany:
F Ska - Nwy
F Swe S F Ska - Nwy
A Hol S F Bel
A Kie - Ruh
A Mun - Bur (Stand-off with French A Gas)
A Sil - Gal (Stand-ff with Austrian A Gal)
A Boh - Vie

Italy:
A Ven-Rom (Stand-off with French A Rom. DISLODGED by French A Tus supported by A Pie).
F Nap S A Ven-Rom (Support cut by attack from French F TYN)

Russia:
F StP - GoB
F Den - Nth (Stand-off with French F NTH)
A Lvn - StP (Stand-off with French F Nor)
A War - Ukr (Stand-off with Austrian A Gal)
A Rum S A Ser
A Ser S A Rum (Support cut by attack from Austrian A Alb)
A Gre - Alb
F Ion S A Gre - Alb
F Bel Hold
F Cly - Lvp

Ok, build/disband/retreat orders:

Austria disbands A Galacia.
France disbands F Norway and F Western Med.
Germany builds A Berlin
Italy didn't send a retreat order, so A Venezia is disbanded.
Russia builds F Stevastopol, A Moscow, F St. Petersburg NC.

Spring 1908

Austria:
A Trieste holds.
A Budapest holds.

France:
Army Tunis holds.
Army Venice supports Army Trieste.
Army Piemonte to Tuscany.
Army Rome to Naples (Stand-off with Italian A Nap, supported by Russian F ION.)
Fleet Tyrhennian supports Army Rome to Naples
Army York to Liverpool (Stand-off with Russian F Liv)
Fleet North Sea to Edinburgh
Fleet English Channel to North Sea
Army Gascony to Paris

Germany:
Fleet Norway supports Fleet Sweden (Support cut by Russian F StP)
Fleet Sweden supports Fleet Norway
Vienna supports Budapest
Army Munich - Kiel
Army Ruhr supports Army Holland - Belgium
Army Holland - Belgium
Army Berlin - Prussia
Army Silesia- Galicia (Stand-off with Russian A War)

Italy:
F Napoli holds

Russia:
F StP - Nwy (Stand-off with German F Nwy)
F Den S F Nwy - Nth (Supported move wasn't made)
F Lvp Hold
F Bel - Eng
A Mos - Ukr
A War - Gal (Stand-off with German A Sil)
F Sev - BLA
A Rum S A Ser - Bud
A Ser - Bud (Stand-off with Austrian A Bud, with support from German A Vie)
A Alb - Ser (Blocked by A Ser)
F Ion S F Nap
A Lvn - War (Blocked by A War)
F GoB - Bal

Autumn 1908:

France:
Fleet Edinburgh supports Fleet North Sea
Fleet North Sea supports Fleet Edinburgh
Army York to London
Army Paris to Brest
Army Venice supports Army Trieste
Army Rome to Apulia
Army Tuscany to Rome
Fleet Tyrhennian Sea supports Army Tuscany to Rome (Support cut by attack from Italian F Nap)
Army Tunis holds.

Germany:
Fleet Norway - St Petersburg (Stand-off with Russian F StP)
Fleet Sweden - Denmark Stand-off with Russian F Den, with support from F Bal)
Army Kiel supports Fleet Sweden - Denmark
Silesia - Galicia (Stand-off with Russian A Ukr, supported by A Rum)
Prussia - Warsaw (Stand-off with A War)
Army Rhur - Munich
A Belgium Hold
A Vienna S A Budapest

Italy:
F Nap-Tyn

Russia:
F StP Nc - Nwy (Stand-off with German F Nwy)
F Bal S F Den - Swe
F Den - Swe (Stand-off with German F Swe, supported by A Kie)
F Lvp Holds
F Eng - MAt
F Ion S F Nap (Supported move not made)
F Bla - Con
A Alb S A Ser
A Ser S A Tri
A Rum S A Ukr - Gal
A Ukr - Gal
A War S A Ukr-Gal (Support cut by attack from German A Prussia)
A Lvn S A War

France builds fleet in Marseilles.

Spring 1909

Austria:
A Budapest holds (Forced to retreat by Russian A Rum supported by A Ser)
A Trieste holds

France:
Fleet Edinburgh to Clyde (Stand-off with Russian F Lvp)
Army London to York
North Sea to Denmark
Brest to Gascony
Fleet Marseilles to Spain SC (Stand-off with Russian F MAt)
Venice supports Trieste
Rome supports Apulia to Naples
Tyrhennian Sea supports Apulia to Naples (Support cut and forced to retreat by attack from Italian F Nap with support from Russian F Ion)
Apulia to Naples
Tunis holds.

Germany:
Norway support Sweden - Finland (Support cut by Russian F StP NC)
Sweden - Finland
Prussia Supports Silesia - Warsaw
Silesia - Warsaw (Stand-off with Russian A War, supported by A Lvn)
Munich - Bohemia
Belgium - Ruhr
Vienna - Gal (Stand-off with Russian A Gal)
(A Kie holds - implied) (Dislodged by Russian F Den with support from F Bal)

Italy:
F Nap-Tyr

Russia:
F MAt - Spa SC (Stand-off with French F Mar)
F Lvp - Cly (Stand-off with French F Edi)
F StP NC - Nwy (Stand-off with German F Nwy)
F Bal S F Den - Kie
F Den - Kie
A War S A Gal (Supported move not made.*)
A Lvn S A War
A Rum - Bud
A Gal - Vie (Stand-off with German F Vie)
A Ser S A Rum - Bud
A Alb - Tri (Stand-off with Austrian A Tri)
F Con - Aeg
F Ion S F Nap - Tyr

Retreats:
French F Tyr - West Med.
German A Kie - Berlin

Autumn 1909:

Austria:
A Trieste holds (Dislodged by Russian A Ser, with support from A Bud and A Alb (Disbanded))

France:
Tunis holds (Dislodged to NAf by Italian F TYN, with support from Russian F ION)
Western Mediterranean supports Tunis (Support cut by attack from Russian F MAO)
Rome supports Naples
Naples supports Rome
Marseilles to Spain SC
Gascony to Brest
York to Liverpool (Stand-off with Russian F Lvp)
Denmark supports Berlin to Kiel
Venice supports Trieste
Edinburgh to North Sea

Germany:
Norway - St Petersburg
Finland supports Norway Saint Petersburg
Prussia - Livonia (Stand-off with Russian A Liv and dislodged by Russian F Bal, supported by A War (Disbanded))
Army Ruhr - Holland
Berlin - Kiel
Silesia - Berlin
Vienna support Trieste (Support cut by attack from Russian A Gal)
Bohemia - Galicia (Stand-off with Russian A Gal)

Italy:
F tyn-tun

Russia:
F StP S A Liv (Dislodged to BAR by attack from German F Nor supported by F Fin)
A Liv S F StP (Support cut by attack from German A Pru)
F Bal - Pru
A War S F Bal - Pru
A Gal - Vie (Stand-off with German A Vie)
A Kie - Ber (Repulsed and dislodged to BAL by German A Ber, with support from French F Den)
F Lvp Holds
A Bud S A Ser - Tri
A Ser - Tri
A Alb S A Ser - Tri
F MAo - WMe (Stand-off with French F WMe)
F Ion S F Tyr - Tun
F Aeg - Gre

Builds:
France: Fleet in Marseilles
Germany: Army in Munich
Fleet in Berlin

Spring 1910

FRANCE:
A Rome supports Naples
A Naples supports Rome
A Venice to Trieste (Stand-off with Russian A Alb)
F Western Mediterranean to Tunis
A North Africa supports Western Med. to Tunis (Support cut and DISLODGED by attack from Italian F Tun, supported by Russian F MAO)
Spain to West Med.
F Marseilles to Gulf of Lyon
A York to Liverpool (Stand-off with Russian F Lvp)
A Brest holds
F North Sea to Norway (Stand-off with Russian F BAR)
F Denmark to Baltic Sea (Stand-off with German F Ber)

GERMANY:
A Vienna - Galicia
A Bohemia support Vienna - Galicia (Move reinstated)
A Silesia support Vienna - Galicia (Support cut by attack from Russian A War)
A Kiel-Denmark (Stand-off with French F Den)
F Berlin - Baltic Sea (Stand-off with French F Den)
A Munich Tyrolia
A Holland - Kiel (Blocked by A Kie)
F Finland - BOT
F STP(NC) support Finland - BOT (F StP (NC) - BOT is an illegal move, hence this support move can't be made. In any case - support would have been cut by attack from Russian A Lvn)

ITALY:
F Tun - NAf

RUSSIA:
Army Livonia - St. Petersburg (Stand-off with German F StP)
Fleet Barent's Sea - Norway (Stand-off with French F NTH)
Fleet Baltic Sea - Sweden
Fleet Prussia - Berlin (Stand-off with German F Ber)
Army Warsaw - Silesia (Stand-off with German A Sil)
Army Galicia - Bohemia (Stand-off with A Boh, DISLODGED to Rum by attack from German A Vie with support from A Boh)
Army Budapest S Army Trieste - Vienna
Army Trieste - Vienna
Army Albania - Trieste (Stand-off with French A Ven)
F Ion - Tyn
F MAt S F Tun - NAf
F Lvp Holds
F Gre - Ion

Autumn 1910:

France:
F Tunis to Ionian Sea (DISLODGED to WMe. by Italian F NAf, supported by Russian F Ion)
F Western Mediterranean Sea to Tyrhennian Sea
F Gulf of Lyon supports Western Mediterranean Sea to Tyrhennian Sea
F North Sea to Norway (Stand-off with Russian F Swe)
F Denmark to Sweden (Stand-off with Russian F Swe)
A Rome supports Naples
A Naples supports Rome
A Brest holds
A York to Liverpool (Stand-off with Russian F Lvp)
Venice supports Tyrolia to Trieste (Supported move not made.)

Germany:
A Galicia- Ukraine
F Bot support St Petersburg
F St Petersburg (NC) hold.
A Kiel- Denmark (Stand-off with French F Den)
A Holland - Kiel (Stand-off with German F Kie)
F Berlin- Prussia (Stand-off with Russian F Pru)
Silesia suuport Berlin - Prussia (Attacked by Russian A War)
Bohemia support Tyrolia - Vienna
Tyrolia - Vienna

Italy:
F Tun - F NAf

Russia:
F Bar S A Lvn - StP
A Lvn - StP (Stand-off with German F StP, supported by F BOT)
F Swe - Nwy (Stand-off with French F NTH)
F Pru - Ber (Stand-off with German F Ber)
A War - Sil (Stand-off with German A Sil)
A Rum S A Vie - Gal
A Bud S A Alb - Tri
A Vie - Gal
A Alb - Tri
F Ion S F NAf - Tun
F Tyr - WMe (DISODGED to Tuscany by attack from French F WMe, with support from F GoL)
F MAt - Por
F Lvp Holds

French F GoL disbanded.
German A Hol disbanded.
Russia builds A Mos, F Ste

Spring 1911

France:
A York to Liverpool (Stand-off with Russian F Lvp)
A Brest to Gascony
A Rome supports Naples
A Naples supports Rome
F Gulf of Lyon to Spain SC (Stand-off with Russian F Por)
F Western Mediterranean supports F Tyrhennian to Tunis
F Tyrhennian to Tunis (Stand-off with Italian F Tun, supported by Russian F ION)
F North Sea to Skagerrak
F Denmark to Sweden (Stand-of with Russian F Swe)
A Venice to Trieste (Stand-off with Russian A Tri)

Germany:
A Ukr - Moscow (DISLODGED by attack from Russian A Rum, supported by A Mos. No valid retreat: DISBANDED)
F St Petes' hold
F Gulf of Bothmia support St Pete's
A Vienna support Venezia into Trieste (Support cut by Russian A Bud)
A Bohemia - Galicia (Stand-off with Russian A Gal)
A Silesia - Warsaw (Stand-off with Russian A War)
F Berlin - Prussia (Stand-off with Russian F Pru)
A Kiel - Munich

Italy:
F Tun S F Ion (Support cut by attack from French F Tyr, with support from F WMe)

Russia:
F Bar - Nwy
F Swe S F Bar - Nwy (Support cut by attack from French F Den)
A Mos S A Rum - Ukr
A Rum - Ukr
F Sev Holds
A Lvn S A War
A War S A Gal (Support cut by German A Sil)
F Pru - Ber (Stand-off with German F Ber)
A Gal S A Bud - Vie (Support cut by attack from German A Boh)
A Bud - Vie (Stand-off with German A Vie)
A Tri S A Bud - Vie (Support cut by attack from French A Ven)
F Lvp Holds
F Por - Spa SC (Stand-off with French GoL)
F Tus - Pie (Yay pie!)
F Ion S F Tun

Autumn 1911:

France:
F Denmark supports Skagerak to Sweden.
F Skagerak to Sweden.
F Gulf of Lyon to Spain SC.
F Tyrhennian Sea convoys Rome to North Africa through Western Mediterranean.
F Western Mediterranean Sea convoys Rome from Tyrhennian Sea to North Africa.
A Naples supports Tyrhennian Sea (Units can only support territories they could move into. Thus an army can't support a sea territory.)
A Rome convoyed via Tyrhennian Sea and Western Mediterranean Sea to North Africa.
A York to Liverpool. (Stand-off with Russian F Lvp. The dance festival is disrupted.)
A Venice to Trieste (Stand-off with Russian A Tri)
A Gascony to Marseilles

Germany:
F Bot support SKA - Sweden
F StP - Norway (Stand-off with Russian F Nor. DISLODGED and disbanded by attack from Russian A Mos supported by A Lvn)
F Berlin support silesia - prussia
A Munich - Tyrolia
A Vienna - Budapest (Stand-off with Russian A Bud)
A Bohemia support Vienna (Supported move was not made)
A Silesia - Prussia

Italy:
F Tun holds (no move submitted)

Russia:
F Ion S F Tun
F Por - MAo
F Pie S A Gas - Mar
F Sev - Bla
F Lvp Holds a Dance Festival
F Nwy S F Swe (Cut by attack from German F StP (NC))
F Swe S The Finnish Initiative for the Annexation of Sweden (Cut and DISLODGED to Fin by attack from French F SKA, supported by F Den and German F BOT...not that I could figure out what this was supposed to be supporting anyway.)
F Pru - Ber (Stand-off with German F Ber. DISLODGED to BAL by attack from German A Sil, supported by F Ber)
A Lvn S A Mos - StP NC
A Mos - StP NC
A War S A Gal - Sil
A Gal - Sil
A Ukr - Gal
A Bud - Vie (Stand-off with German A Vie)
A Tri - Ven (Stand-off with French A Ven)

France builds F Bre.
Germany disbands F St.P (NC)
Russia builds A Mos

Spring 1912

France:
F Tyrhennian Sea supports Western Mediterranean to Tunis
F Western Mediterranean to Tunis
F Spain to Portugal (Stand-off with Russian F MAO)
F Denmark supports Sweden
F Sweden supports Denmark
F Brest holds
A Marseilles to Piemonte
A Venice supports Vienna to Trieste
A Naples holds.
A York to Liverpool
A North Africa supports Western Mediterranean to Tunis

Germany:
F Bot support Sweden (Support cut by attack from Russian F Fin)
F Berlin supports Prussia
A Bohemia-Munich (Stand-off with Russian A Sil)
A Prussia supports Berlin (Support cut and dislodged by attack from Russian A War, supported by A Lvn - no legal retreat, therefore disbanded)
A Vienna - Trieste
A Tyrolia support Venezia

Italy:
No moves submitted.
F Tun holds (Dislodged by attack from French F WMe, supported by A NAf and F Tyr. Disbanded - no legal retreat)

Russia:
F Fin - BOT (Stand-off with German F BOT)
F Nwy - Nth
F Bal - Kie
F Lvp - Wal (They leave a note in town: 'Gone shopping at Harrod's. Back in 1922.')
F MAo - Por (Stand-off with French F Spa)
F Pie - Tus
F Ion S F Tun - Tyn (Supported move not made)
F Bla - Con
A StP - Nwy
A Mos - War
A War - Pru
A Lvn S A War - Pru
A Sil - Mun (Stand-off with German A Boh)
A Gal - Vie
A Bud S A Gal - Vie
A Tri S A Gal - Vie (Dislodged to Serbia by attack from German A Vie, supported by French A Ven)

Autumn 1912

France:
F Brest holds
F Tunis to Ionian Sea (Stand-off with Russian F Ion)
F Tyrhennian supports Tunis to Ionian Sea (Support broken by Russian F Tus)
A North Africa to Tunis (Blocked by F Tun)
F Spain to Portugal (Stand-off with Russian F MAO)
A Venice to Rome
A Piemonte to Venice
A Naples holds
A Liverpool holds
F Denmark supports Sweden
F Sweden supports Denmark (Support cut by attack from Russian F Fin)

Germany:
F Bot - StP (Stand-off with Russian A Lvn)
F Berlin Hold (DISLODGED by Russian A Pru, supported by F Kie)
A Trieste -Albania
A Tyrolia - Vienna
A Bohemia support Tyrolia - Vienna

Russia:
F Fin - Swe (Stand-off with French F Swe)
A Nwy - Bel
A Lvn - StP (Stand-off with German F BOT)
F Nth C A Nwy - Bel
F Wal - Lon (Shopping in Harrod's [Harrod's isn't on the Thames, but you find a branch of Primark instead.])
F Kie S A Pru - Ber
A Pru - Ber
A Sil - Mun
A War - Gal
A Vie - Tri
A Bud S A Vie - Tri
A Ser S A Vie - Tri
F Con - Aeg
F Ion - Nap (Stand-off with French A Nap)
F Tus - Tyn (Stand-off with French F Tyn)
F MaO - Por (Stand-off with French F Spa)

Liverpool and Tunisa fall to France.
London, Kiel, Munich, Berlin and Belgium fall to Russia.
Russia controls 19 centres and wins.



Rules:

We will use the 5th Ed, 2008 rules,freely available from Wizards of the Coast website here: Diplomacy rulesbook PDF (http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy_rulebook.pdf). (There is also a "Five Minute Guide" version available here: Diplomacy Condensed Rules (http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/Diplomacy_FiveMinGuide.pdf).)

Turns:

Please send me your moves to me by PM before the deadline. Announcing what move you intend to make is legal (as is lying about what move you intend to make) but any moves posted here and not PMed to me will not be considered.

Any unit not given a move will be assumed to be holding.

If a unit is given two or more moves, the latest move submitted before deadline counts.

Conditional moves will be accepted. For example: "If I succeed in taking this supply centre, please place my new army X", etc... You are encouraged to do this when you expect to gain / lose supply centres, or where you could conceivably be forced to retreat.

Please mark move orders "Preliminary" or "Final".
Preliminary moves are your backup plan, if no final moves are sorted out.
Final moves are the moves you wish to make that turn. However, they may be amended any time before adjudication starts.

Adjudication will now start either: (1) At the pre-stated deadline or (2) When all active players have sent final moves (whichever is earlier). This will allow a faster pace to be adopted if it suits. Once adjudication starts, no more moves will be accepted for that turn.

Surrender of units:
If you PM me indicating a move along the lines of "A Smyrna to be controlled by the Dutch player" then I will accept moves the Dutch player sends for that army. You will still get credit for the move, however. This means - if you are away, but have a strong alliance and you trust another player, you can ensure co-ordination of forces or you can use it to surrender to another player.

Anonymous messages
If you want to publish anonymous messages, include them with your move and they will be published on the move list, unattributed to any player. You may find this helpful for diplomatic situations (you may also find evil uses for them). Private anonymous messages may be relayed via my inbox too, and will be forwarded at adjudication.

Timescale:

DIPLOMACY PHASE: 4 days. Since most of this will happen via PM, IRC or other non-public channels this is basically impossible to enforce.
MOVE PHASE: 1 day.
MOVE RESOLUTION PHASE: I aim to have this done within 1 hour of deadline.
RETREAT AND DISBAND PHASE: 1 day.
GAIN OR LOSE UNITS PHASE: 1 day.

Absenteeism: The rulebook has rules for this. Any unit with no move submitted will be assumed to hold. A unit required to retreat with no retreat order given will be assumed to be disbanded. A player required to disband a unit for other reasons who fails to make a choice will have the unit furthest from their home disbanded.

Making treaties with each other: There are three different ways to handle an agreement between players:

1. Public - Post in this thread what you agreed to do: "Player A and player B have agreed to co-operate to secure control of area of the board X" and such.

2. Private - Post that "Player A and Player B have an agreement" with no further detail.

3. Secret - Don't post anything about it and keep everyone in the dark.

I'm hoping to write a "game report" at the end. To this end, I'll ask that secret or private agreements are forwarded to me via PM (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/member.php?u=49745), where they'll A: Be kept secret until the end of the game, and B: Inform the game report, so you can see who the wheelers and dealers were at the end of it all.

Use of this thread: Informing the players of treaties made, and any public negotiations between players. (Please stick to the forum rules.) Please no commentary until the game is over. Move lists each turn will also be posted here, but I will ask that moves be PMed to me. Moves posted in this thread will not be considered.

[Starfols]

Here is a nice, pretty map I found, for everyone's convenience :smallsmile:

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af132/starfols/diplomacy_map_colour.gif

[Jamin]

Shouldn't this be in on goings games not here

[Capt Spanner]

The chess game is in here. I figured diplomacy was closer chess than an RPG.

If it has been misforumed, I'm sure it will be moved.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

I was in another Diplomacy game that used the In/Out of character boards, but this is more a board game than an RPG, so it seems fair to have it here.

[Selrahc]

The best place for diplomacy is in structured games. There have actually been 3 games down there already.

Really the chess threads should be there too. A lot of things that clearly belong in structured games don't actually get put in there.

[Errandir]

Ah, we're starting? Good luck, everyone!

[Capt Spanner]

Alright guys, all moves for Spring 1901 by midnight, please. Thanks.

[Jamin]

You should say what time zone you are in.
Edit although it should be petty clear.

[Eurus]

Deadline for moves: Midnight GMT between 14/7 and 15/7. (That is 8pm 14/7 EST). Please resolve all diplomatic actions 24 hours before then.


Alright guys, all moves for Spring 1901 by midnight, please. Thanks.

So you midnight GMT between 13/7 and 14/7 is the deadline for negotiations, not for actual move-submitting, right?

[Deathslayer7]

he wants the actual moves by midnight tonight i believe.

[Capt Spanner]

Jamin has it right. It's midnight tomorrow (or about 27 hours time in real terms). I misread my calender :-S

Naturally, anyone wishing to change their moves can freely do so up to that point.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Well, I got my orders in. Here's hoping things go well for everyone. Even though I'm not involved in it, I'm curious to see how the Balkans are going to go.

[Capt Spanner]

Thanks. Here are all the orders received for Spring 1901.
All completed successfully.
Also, I won't PM people the regular updates, and will assume you've all got a subscription to this thread. I think this is normal for most games here.

Austria:
F Trieste - Albania
A Budapest - Serbia
A Vienna - Galicia

England:
F Edinburgh - Norwegian sea
F London - North sea
A Liverpool - Edinburgh

France:
Army Paris to Picardy
Fleet Brest to English Channel
Army Marsielles to Spain

Germany:
F KIE - DEN
A BER - KIE
A MUN - RHR

Italy:
Army in Venezia: Move to Tyrolia
Army in Roma: Move to Tuscany
Fleet in Naopli: Move to Roma

Russia:
F Stp Bot
A Mos Stp
A War Ukr
F Sev Rum

Turkey:
A con-bul
F ank-con
A sym sings bad romance

[Errandir]

A sym sings bad romance

...

We surrender.

[Jamin]

...

We surrender.

We accept.

[Starfols]

We accept.

And that's why the Geneva Convention was started :smalltongue:

[Capt Spanner]

The deadline for moves is less than three hours away.

So far I have two moves in.

[Capt Spanner]

Moves received for Autumn 1901:
Austria:
A Galicia - Warsaw
F Albania - Greece
A Serbia supports F Albania - Greece
(Gains one unit in Budapest or Trieste).

England:
F Norwegian Sea - Clyde
A Edinburgh - Norway
F North Sea C Edinburgh - Norway
(Gains one unit in Liverpool or London or Edinborough)

France:
Army Spain to Portugal
Fleet English Channel supports Army Picardy to Belgium
Army Picardy to Belgium (for glorious waffles)
(Gains two units in Brest, Picardy or Marseilles.

Germany:
F Denmark- Sweden
A Kiel- Mun
A Rhur - Holland
(Gains two units in Kiel and Berlin)

Italy:
A-Tyrolia move to Vienna
A-Tuscany move to Venezia
F-Rome hold position
(Gains one unit in Napoli)

Russia:
No moves received.

Turkey:
No moves received.
(Gains one unit in Ankara)

[Jamin]

err opps I forgot I was in this. However I do think that a 3 hour warning is too little time. We all have lives to live.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

To be fair, there was a four day period before that. PMs would be nice, but that may get annoying. My own general habit is to just subscribe to this bad boy and go from there.

[Eurus]

Can a fleet move from Napoli to Apulia?

[Capt Spanner]

Yes, you can, Euros.


err opps I forgot I was in this. However I do think that a 3 hour warning is too little time. We all have lives to live.

I would have posted a reminder earlier than that, but was away and didn't have internets. I'll try to post a reminder at around 24 hours before the move ends, but may occasionally forget or be unable to.

I should also mention that conditional moves are accepted for the add/remove units phase, and the retreat phase. This will be pretty useful for keeping the game moving when you anticipate capturing a supply centre or are worried about being forced to retreat.

[Eurus]

Another question, that I could probably look up but don't want to since those rules are a bit labyrinthine: Could a convoy cross between Venezia and Tuscany? Say you had fleets in Venezia, Tuscany, and the Gulf of Lyon, could you convoy a unit from Trieste to Spain?

[Capt Spanner]

Another question, that I could probably look up but don't want to since those rules are a bit labyrinthine: Could a convoy cross between Venezia and Tuscany? Say you had fleets in Venezia, Tuscany, and the Gulf of Lyon, could you convoy a unit from Trieste to Spain?

As long as the fleets are actually in the Adriatic, Gulf of Lyon and Tyr. sea, then I believe it's possible.

[Capt Spanner]

Ok, so the add / remove units phase 1901 is over. Here's what happened:

Austria gained armies in Trieste and Budapest.
England gained a fleet in London.
France gained an army in Paris, and a fleet in Brest.
Germany gained an army in Berlin, and a fleet in Kiel.
Italy placed a fleet in Napoli.
Turkey didn't submit anything.

We're now into diplomatic phase. Next move deadline is 31st July, 8pm EST (midnight in the UK).

[Capt Spanner]

Ok, I got back much later than I thought I would - we had delays.

So I can still give you a reasonable reminder time, I will accept moves up until noon GMT tomorrow (that is 8AM EST 1st August).

Those who have submitted moves are, naturally, free to submit alterations until that point.

[Capt Spanner]

Moves for Spr 1902:

Austria:
A Warsaw holds
A Trieste - Vienna - Repulsed by holding Italian army.
A Budapest - Rumania
A Serbia supports A Budapest - Rumania
F Greece - Aegean Sea

England:
F London-English Channel
F North Sea S F London-English Channel
F Clyde-North Atlantic
A Norway takes a nap

France:
Army Portugal moves to Spain
Army Paris moves to Burgundy
Army Belgium moves to Wales - Convoy failed.
Fleet English channel convoys Belgium to Wales - Dislodged by English fleet.
Fleet Brest moves to MAO

Germany:
Fleet Sweden - Norway - repulsed by an English Army.
Fleet Kiel - Denmark
Army Holland- Holds
Army Munich-Tyrolia - repulsed by an Italian Army.
Army Berlin-Prussia

Italy:
F-Napoli move to Tyrhennian Sea
F-Roma hold position
A-Venezia move to Tyrolia - repulsed by a German army.
A-Vienna hold position

Russia:
No moves submitted.

Turkey:
No moves submitted.

[Deathslayer7]

i think in all fairness russia and turkey should be replaced? :smallconfused:

[Capt Spanner]

I PM'ed them asking if they were still playing.

I do have people who've said they'd like a seat in the wings.

[Errandir]

No, honestly, I don't mind. :smallwink:

[Thrice Dead Cat]

I definitely think that we should grab replacements for Russia and Turkey before continuing.

[Capt Spanner]

Retreats are:
French fleet to Wales.

I've retreated the Russian fleet Stevastopol so that the player who takes them over isn't too disadvantaged and PM'd players asking if they'd like a seat.

[Murska]

Hello all. Tsar Murska is ready and willing to steer Mother Russia back to greatness.

[Capt Spanner]

Coups in the East!

After a year of civil unrest, strong leaders have now emerged in Russia and Turkey. Murska become the new Tsar of Russia, and Nailuj has emerged in control after a coup. Nailuj said "Turkey will be one of the greatest superpowers the world has ever seen!" and Murska released a statement saying "That will teach the old leader for always stealing my lunch money at school."*

They intend to lead their respective countries to greatness in Europe, and extend a hand of friendship to all willing to aid them.*

In other news, Swiss scientists invented a machine for turning platinum into gold!

Also, we now enter diplomatic phase Autumn 1902.
This ends on 12th August (8pm EST, midnight BST) with the deadline for moves being 24 hours after that.


*In the interests of play, those quotes were made up entirely by me.

[Starfols]

In other news, Swiss scientists invented a machine for turning platinum into gold!

Aww yeah, I'm totally going to go invade Switzerland!

..wait. :smallconfused:

Anyway, yeah. Welcome, new players! :smallsmile:

[Capt Spanner]

Just so you all know, I forgot to put a French Army in Burgandy. It should be there. Letting you know in case this affects your plans. The map has now been corrected to reflect this.

[Capt Spanner]

So I totally misread the date and gave you lot a double length move. Err...I mean, I hope you appreciated the double length move to let the new players integrate fully.

In any case, diplomacy phase over, please send me your moves in the next 24 hours by PM. If you haven't subscribed to this thread, please do that too.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

I thought the extra time was a little odd, but I can't say that I'm not thankful for it as I almost missed my moves anyhow.

[Eurus]

Oh, yikes. The turn was so long I almost forgot about this. :smalleek:

[Deathslayer7]

I thought the extra time was a little odd, but I can't say that I'm not thankful for it as I almost missed my moves anyhow.

same. been busy with my aunts 25th wedding anniversary party tomorrow. <.<

[Capt Spanner]

Moves for Fall 1902:

Austria:
A Warsaw holds
A Trieste - Venezia
A Serbia - Bulgaria
A Rumania supports A Serbia - Bulgaria
F Aegean Sea - Greece

England:
F English Channel - Mid Atlantic
F North Atlantic S F English Channel - Mid Atlantic
F North Sea - English Channel
A Norway super holds

France:
Fleet MAO moves to Brest
Fleet Wales moves to Liverpool
Belgium holds due to something in the waffles.
Burgundy supports Belgium.
Army Spain holds, running with the bulls.

Germany:
A Munich - Tyrolia
A Prussia Supports Russia against Warsaw
F Denmark hold
F Sweden - Norway
Army Holland supports Belgium

Italy:
F Roma move to Napoli
A Vienna move to Budapest
A Venezia move to Trieste
F Tyrhenian Sea hold position

Russia:
F Sev-Rum
A Ukr S F Sev-Rum
A Mos-War
F Bot Holds

Turkey:
A Bulgaria - Serbia

[Capt Spanner]

Everyone who has decisions has now been PM'd (that's all of you!)

Please give me your decisions by tomorrow evening.

[Capt Spanner]

Cool. Here's a summary of disbanding/gaining units:

Results:

Austria disbands A War and F Gre
England disbands F MAO
France gains a fleet in Mar
Germany gains an army in Mun
Italy creates a fleet in Rom
Russia creates a fleet in StP (NC)
Turkey creates an army in Ank.


Also, many thanks to those of you keeping me updated on your behind the scenes stuff. It will make writing the game report far easier, and more in depth.

It is now Spring 1903. Diplomacy ends 20th August, moves by 21st August, please.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

There are errors with the French units again. I've still got the army in Burgundy and the army in Liverpool is actually a fleet.

[Capt Spanner]

Thanks, that's now been corrected. MS Paint is not the ideal tool for maintaining the map...

For those unsure, if information conflicts, the "Moves so far" list takes precedence over other sources of information, though I welcome corrections to other information, naturally.

(In other news, I'm thinking of getting rid of the "List of unit positions" and replacing it with a list of controlled supply centres. The former doesn't add anything you couldn't get from the map and is kinda tricky to maintain, while the former may actually be useful sometimes. Any major objections to this?)

[Capt Spanner]

Could I have your moves by midnight tomorrow.

Thanks.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Bah, I don't even remember if I sent my moves! I'll get on that unless I've already done such.

[Murska]

I'm used to a bit faster pace. It's horrible waiting for a week after you've sent our moves, to agonize over everything that could go wrong. :smalltongue:

[Capt Spanner]

Still missing three sets of moves :-S

DukeGod is saying they can't keep it up.

[Murska]

Still missing three sets of moves :-S

DukeGod is saying they can't keep it up.

Austria, Turkey and... Italy?

[Errandir]

Nope, I sent my moves in on time.

[Eurus]

Yeah, one would be me. >_> Having issues, sorry. Can send them in now, though.

[Capt Spanner]

Nope, I sent my moves in on time.

Yes you did. Oops. Had you on that list by mistake. Sorry. :smallbiggrin:

As always, any errors on the map or elsewhere, post in this thread.

Austria
A Trieste - Vienna
A Galicia - Budapest
A Serbia supports A Galicia - Budapest

England:
A Norway - Sweden
F Nat - Clyde (Stand off with French fleet in Liverpool)
F English Channel - Brest (Stand off with French fleet in Brest).

France:
A Spain to Gascony
F Mar to Spain (SC)
F Brest to English Channel (Stand off with English fleet in ENG)
A Bel supports Holland
A Bur to Picardy
F Liverpool to Clyde (Stand off with English fleet in NAt)

Germany:
(Munich - Bohemia)
Tyrolia Supports Munich - Bohemia
Prussia - Silesia
F Denmark - North Sea
Fleet Sweden - Norway (Dislodged by English army from Norway, with support from Russian fleet BOT)

Italy:
A Budapest move to Trieste
A Venezia assist A Budapest in its move to Trieste
F Napoli move to Apulia
F Tyrhenian Sea move to Tunisia
A Roma assist A Venezia

Russia:
F StP NC - Nwy
F BOT S A Nwy-Swe
A War S A Ukr - Gal
A Ukr - Gal
F Rum Holds

Turkey:
MIA


I'm not sure whether or not to replace Turkey. There isn't anyone "on the bench" as it were, so I'd have to actively search for a replacement. It might take some time, by which time Turkey may be so behind they have very little influence anyway.

Anyway, there is one retreat to resolve, then we'll get onto Autumn 1903, hopefully tomorrow night.

[Murska]

The map has my A War in Galicia instead of the A Ukr.

[Eurus]

The map seems to not be updated yet.

[Deathslayer7]

thats cold Russia. :smallannoyed: and after everything i did for you? I see how it is.

[Capt Spanner]

The German army in Sweden retreats to Skagerak.

If the map hasn't updated, try doing a full refresh (Ctrl + F5 in most browsers). A normal refresh may use the old map from the cache.

I've also added
Germany: A Hol holds to the move list.

[Starfols]

thats cold Russia. :smallannoyed: and after everything i did for you? I see how it is.

If it's any consolation, I'm only borrowing it.

[Deathslayer7]

no no its not. cause he lied to me. :smallannoyed:

[Murska]

Well do you expect people to speak the truth in Diplomacy of all things? At least I didn't do anything that'd really harm you.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Oh, Diplomacy, how you make everyone ever hate everyone else ever. So silly.

[Eurus]

Oh, Diplomacy, how you make everyone ever hate everyone else ever. So silly.

I hated everyone long before this game. Does that mean I have an advantage? :smalltongue:

[Thrice Dead Cat]

I hated everyone long before this game. Does that mean I have an advantage? :smalltongue:

As long as your hate can overcome the rest of our combined hate... maybe.:smalltongue:

[Capt Spanner]

Diplomatic phase ends in about 1 hour 10 minutes.

Can I please have you moves in the next 25 hours. (That's midnight tomorrow). Thanks.

[Capt Spanner]

Three hours left, and I only have two moves...

[Murska]

Hmf. People, send in your moves early and often, like me.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Hmf. People, send in your moves early and often, like me.

And me! Although, to be fair, I only really have to worry about two, maybe three units when it comes to actual diplomacy.

[Deathslayer7]

i always send mine in on time. :smalltongue:

[Capt Spanner]

Moves for Autumn 1903:

Austria:
A Vienna holds
A Serbia - Trieste
A Budapest supports A Serbia - Trieste

England:
F Nat - Clyde
F English channel - London
A Sweden holds

France:
A Picardy supports A Belgium
A Belgium supports A Holland
F Spain moves to MAO
A Gas moves to Mar
F Brest moves to English Channel
F Liverpool holds.

Germany:
A Holland Holds
A Tyrolia attacks Vienna with Bohemia support
Bohemia supports A tyrolia
Silesisa Holds
Fleet North Sea attack Edinburgh
Fleet Skagerrak attacks Norway (Stand-off with Russian F Nor)

Italy:
No moves received.
(Trieste army dislodged).

Russia:
F Nwy S F BOT - Swe (Support cut by attack from German F Ska).
F BOT - Swe (Stand off with English A Swe).
A War S A Gal
A Gal S A Vie
F Rum - Bul (Stand-off with Turkish army).

[Capt Spanner]

Retreats:
Italian army Trieste retreats to Albania.

Disbanded:
English army Sweden (no orders sent)
Italian army Roma.

Build:
Russian army Stevastopol.


New diplomacy phase starts: Spring 1904.

Next move deadline: 4th September.
Players are highly encouraged to send preliminary moves. Remember that you are free to update your moves however you wish up until adjudication starts and is often more advantageous than simply having all units hold.

[Starfols]

Looks like I'll be the first one to die. :smallfrown:

I suppose I played sloppily enough to deserve it.

[Capt Spanner]

This is the usual time for your 24 hour warning, but I won a chance to meet one of my idols (Lewis Hamilton, Formula One World Champion 2008 and a strong contender this year) and so will be away all of tomorrow.

As such, you all have an extra day to send your moves in. Sunday is your new deadline.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Congratulations on the meet, Captain! I hope things go well at the event.

[Capt Spanner]

You now have 23 hours to submit or amend moves, please. Thanks, all.

[Capt Spanner]

Spring 1904 moves:


Austria:
A Vienna holds
A Trieste supports A Vienna
A Budapest - Serbia

England:
F Lon-York
F Clyde holds

France:
F Liverpool supports Picardy to Wales
F English Channel convoys Picardy to Wales
Army Picardy to Wales
F MAO supports English Channel
A Bel supports A Hol (A Hol moved.)
A Mar to Piemonte

Germany:
Fleet Edinburgh hold
Fleet Sakgerrak North Sea
A Holland Kiel
Tyrolia shall support Bohemia.
Bohemia shall support Tyrolia.
Silesia shall support Bohemia

Italy:
No moves submitted.

Russia:
F Nwy S F Bot - Swe
F Bot - Swe
A Sev - Arm
F Rum - Bla
A Gal - Rum
A War Holds


Also, I wish to amend the movement procedure as follows:

1. Please mark move orders "Preliminary" or "Final".
Preliminary moves are your backup plan, if no final moves are sorted out.
Final moves are the moves you wish to make that turn. However, they may be amended any time before adjudication starts.

2. Adjudication will now start either: (1) At the pre-stated deadline or (2) When all active players have sent final moves (whichever is earlier). This will allow a faster pace to be adopted if it suits.


A couple of other things you may wish to take advantage of:

1. If you PM me indicating a move along the lines of "A Smyrna to be controlled by the Dutch player" then I will accept moves the Dutch player sends for that army. You will still get credit for the move, however. This means - if you are away, but have a strong alliance and you trust another player, you can ensure co-ordination of forces or you can use it to surrender to another player.

2. Public messages: If you want to publish anonymous messages, include them with your move and they will be published on the move list, unattributed to any player. You may find this helpful for diplomatic situations (you may also find evil uses for them).

Next phase: Autumn 1904 Diplomacy
Phase ends: 10th September 2010
Deadline for moves: 11th September 2010.

[Capt Spanner]

Moves in by midnight, please.

[Deathslayer7]

ummm never got a reply to that pm i sent.

[Murska]

Okay, so...?

[Capt Spanner]

Autumn 1904 moves:

Austria:
A Vienna holds (Forced to retreat by German A Tyrolia, supported by A Bohemia)
A Trieste - Tyrolia
A Serbia supports A Rumania - Bulgaria

England:
F Clyde-Lvp (Stand off with F Liverpool)
F York A F Cly-Lvp (This doesn't work.)

France:
Army Wales to London
Fleet English Channel supports Wales to London
Fleet MAO moves to Western Mediterranean
Fleet Liverpool holds
Army Belgium moves to Ruhr
Army Piemonte moves to Tuscany

Germany:
Fleet north sea supports edinburgh
fleet edinburgh hold
Army Kiel - Denmark
Army Bohemia supports Army Tyrolia into Vienna
Army silesia hold
Army Tyrolia - Vienna

Italy:
No moves submitted (again)

Russia:
A Arm - Ank
F BLA S A Arm - Ank
A Rum - Bul
A War - Gal
F Swe S F Nwy
F Nwy S F Swe


Could players please make all moves explicitly. It makes adjudication much easier when you haven't implied moves.

[Murska]

Wait, let me confirm. A fleet in York supported a fleet in Clyde into Liverpool? But a fleet in York can't actually reach Liverpool? Or Clyde for that matter? :smallconfused:

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Sadly, it looks like the official rule is that although a fleet in York cannot move itself into Liverpool, it can still do "cover fire" to aid the fleet in Clyde into getting into Liverpool.

EDIT: Also, I definitely think we should get new players for Turkey and Italy.

[Starfols]

Derp. Sorry about that. I just knew they were both coastal spots, and didn't think about the implications. :smalleek:

I may be taking over for Italy once I die, so that solves itself. :smallsmile:

[Murska]

Getting a new player for turkey would kind of suck for that player for obvious reasons. Italy, however, is still strongly in the game, so yeah.

I was almost certain that the rules stated you can only support into a country that you could attack into...

[Deathslayer7]

if it makes you feel better he should have died this year, so just let it pass.

[Capt Spanner]

Ooops.

That is correct, but it's not too late to correct that. It just means that England is now fully dead, the fleet in Wales stays in Liverpool. And France gets an extra supply centre.

[Starfols]

if it makes you feel better he should have died this year, so just let it pass.
You may have been responsible for my death, but at least you were nice about it. :smallwink:

Ooops.

That is correct, but it's not too late to correct that. It just means that England is now fully dead, the fleet in Wales stays in Liverpool. And France gets an extra supply centre.

So you mean I'm dead? :smalleek: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6iT-lMgfAI)

Ah well. Thanks for giving me Italy.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Whoo! Dead England is dead!

EDIT: Also, my units are off again. I've got a fleet in the Channel and I think that's the only thing wrong other than the whole dead England bit.

[Deathslayer7]

umm yeah can we get an updated map again please? but really you shouldnt change moves in after you have changed the phase, because in all honesty my moves would have been different but it doesn't matter. it probably doesnt affect anyone else though so meh. :smallsmile:

[Murska]

King of England is dead! Long live the King of Italy!

[Capt Spanner]

England Falls

The once proud island nation of England has fallen to French and German rule. However, armies sacking the main cities failed to find the English leader who has escaped through means unknown, although a man in a blue police box is suspected to be involved. Not that anyone can find the blue police box either. Eye-witnesses say the man and Starfols just escaped into the box, which vanished into thin air.

Italy has a new leader

And he bears a remarkable resemblance to the missing English leader. He even has the same name! The man, known as Starfols, arrived in Italy and appealed to the people to unite against threats in Europe. The Italians responded "Yes, our old leader hasn't been acting. Off with his head! All hail Starfols!" And Starfols said "Excellent, now bring me some pizza."

When asked for comment, the new Italian leader said "Mmm....wow! This pizza is delicious!"

And finally...

Swiss scientists have invented a harness that can be placed on cows, which automatically milks them, thus saving farmers money. The price of Swiss milk has sky-rocketed in response.


Oh, and build build order:

Austria builds an army in Trieste.
France build a fleet in Marseilles.
Germany build an army in Munich.
Russia built a fleet in St. Petersburg (SC), an army in Moscow and an army in Warsaw.

We are now in the Spring 1905 diplomatic phase.
Phase ends 17th September 2010.
Deadline for moves is 18th September 2010.


umm yeah can we get an updated map again please? but really you shouldnt change moves in after you have changed the phase, because in all honesty my moves would have been different but it doesn't matter. it probably doesnt affect anyone else though so meh. :smallsmile:

I didn't actually change the moves. I changed the adjudication of the moves.

Map is updated now though.

[Capt Spanner]

Diplomatic phase ends in one hour.

Moves by midnight tomorrow please.

[Capt Spanner]

With apologies for the delay:

Austria:
A Serbia - Greece (Stand-off with Italian army from Albania.)
A Tyrolia holds
A Trieste supports A Tyrolia
A Budapest - Vienna

France:
Army Ruhr to Burgundy
Army Paris to Gascony
Army London enjoys the fine British tea and holds.
Fleet Liverpool to North Atlantic
Fleet English Channel to North Sea
Army Tuscany to Rome (Stand-off with Italian army from Venezia.)
Fleet Marseilles to Gulf of Lyon
Fleet West Mediterranean to Tyrrenian Sea

Germany:
Fleet Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
Fleet North Sea- Denmark
Army Denmark - Kiel
Silesia supports Vienna into Galicia
Bohemia supports Vienna into Galicia
Munich Holds
Vienna - Galicia

Italy:
A Venezia - Roma (Stand-off with French army from Tuscany.)
F Apulia - Venezia (Blocked by Fleet in Venezia.
F Tunisia holds
A Albania - Greece (Stand-off with Austrian army from Serbia.)

Russia:
F Swe S F Nwy
F Nwy S F Swe
F StP SC - BOT
A Mos - Liv
A War S A Gal
A Gal S A War (Forced to retreat by Germany army Vienna, supported by armies in Bohemia and Silesia.)
A Ank S F BLA - Con
A Bul S F BLA - Con
F BLA - Con

[Deathslayer7]

forgot my army in munich :smallsmile:

[Capt Spanner]

Army in Munich being added as I type this.

Retreat:
Russia:
Army Galacia to Ukraine.

[Murska]

I think that extra fleet in Marseilles is a decoy. I call your bluff!

[Capt Spanner]

I think that extra fleet in Marseilles is a decoy. I call your bluff!

Oops. That fleet ended up on my "blank" map which I use to create each map. Apologies for any confusion.

[Capt Spanner]

Quick note: deadline for moves is tonight, in about 11 hours time.

[Capt Spanner]

Autumn 1905:

Austria:
A Tyrolia - Venezia - stand-off with fleet Venezia.
A Trieste supports A Vienna
A Vienna holds
A Serbia - Budapest

France:
Fleet North Sea supports Fleet Norwegian Sea into Norway
Fleet North Atlantic moves to Fleet Norwegian Sea
Army London holds.
Army Gascony moves to Spain
Army Burgundy moves to Marseilles
Fleet Gulf of Lyon moves to Western Mediterranean
Army Tuscany moves to Roma
Fleet Tyr Sea supports Army Tuscany to Roma

Germany:
Galicia Hold
Silesia - Prussia (Stand-off with Army Livonia)
Bohemia - Silesia (Blocked by Army Silesia)
Munich Hold
Kiel Hold
Fleet Denmark - Sweden (Stand-off with Fleet Sweden)
Fleet Nowegian Sea - Norway

Italy:
No moves submitted.

Russia:
A Ukraine S A Warsaw
A Warsaw S A Livonia - Prussia
A Livonia - Prussia (Stand-off with Army Silesia)
F BOT - Baltic Sea
F Sweden S F Norway (Support cut by Fleet Denmark)
F Norway S F Sweden (Dislodged by Fleet Norwegian Sea, with support from Fleet North Sea)
A Bulgaria Holds
F Constantinople S A Ankara - Smyrna
A Ankara - Smyrna

[Murska]

Damn, Italy went afk.

Oh well, gg, France wins. I claim bad luck with Germany never realizing anything and coming into game mid-way when France already had England and Italy by the throat.

[Deathslayer7]

i rather see France when over you Murska.
Why? That stunt you pulled up in Norway/Sweden even after i helped you with Warsaw and the many centers gained in Turkey.

[Murska]

Well, it isn't my fault you somehow misunderstood the entire plan that I outlined clearly and in full. :/

Then you attacked me with everything you could, effectively becoming a Kingmaker for France. If you want to play that way then feel free, but I prefer playing my own game instead of someone else's.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Well, it isn't my fault you somehow misunderstood the entire plan that I outlined clearly and in full. :/

Then you attacked me with everything you could, effectively becoming a Kingmaker for France. If you want to play that way then feel free, but I prefer playing my own game instead of someone else's.

To be fair, I never once smacked over Germany.

[Murska]

True, but only because you don't need to, since he hasn't even tried to win for himself.

[Deathslayer7]

well it is italy/turkey who were afk. so there never really was a chance for me to win was there?

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Hey, you're still in a good position, so it's not like you'll exactly lose anytime soon.

[Deathslayer7]

well Murska annoyed me with the taking of norway/sweden.

aus/italy dont respond to any of my pms.

and here russia is telling me to sit between two powers and have them both turn against me.

[Murska]

Play them off against each other, then?

Anyway, yeah... I was trying to ally with Turkey, but he was afk. Then I tried to help Italy stand against the French fleets, but he was afk. Austria is at least playing, but doesn't respond to any messages. And Germany and France are attacking me.

There's not much Diplomacy going on here, is there?

EDIT: As for Norway and Sweden, Norway is commonly assumed to belong to the English and Sweden is commonly assumed to belong to Russia. I claim joining the game late here aswell, since Sweden is almost always where Russia gains it's build in the first Fall.

I conquered Norway fair and square, and took Sweden as per our agreement with Germany, especially since it's supposed to belong to me anyway. When I send someone a PM detailing 'we do this and then I take center X and you take center Y' and you want to keep center X, you're best off saying 'I'll keep center X' instead of going along quietly and then getting angry the next turn.

[Murska]

My fleet StP is on the wrong coast on the map, by the way.

[Capt Spanner]

Dear All: this is your friendly 24 hour warning.

Please could you all get your moves to me over the next day.

[Murska]

Mid-turn moves: Have the Russian Workers in StP carry my fleet over from South Coast to North Coast, please.

[Capt Spanner]

Moves for Spring 1906:

Austria:
A Tyrolia - Bohemia
A Vienna supports A Tyrolia - Bohemia
A Budapest holds
A Trieste - Serbia

France:
Army Marseilles to Piemonte
Army Rome supports Army Venice (Stand-off with Italian army from Venezia).
Army Spain to North Africa
Fleet Western Mediterranean convoys Army Spain to North Africa
Army Paris to Gascony
Fleet Tyr supports Fleet Western Mediterranean
Fleet North Sea to Skagerak
Fleet Norwegian Sea to Barents Sea (Stand-off with Russian F Barents Sea)
Army London holds

Germany:
Army Galicia - Rumnia (Stand-off with Russian army from Ukraine)
Army Munich - Berlin
Army Silesia - Prussia
Army Bohemia - Munich
Fleet Norway Sweden
Fleet Denmark supports Fleet Norway - Sweden
Army Kiel supports Denmark (Attacked by Russian Fleet from the Baltic Sea)

Italy:
F apulia-napoli
A Venezia-Roma (Stand-off with French army Roma)
F Tunisia - Ionian sea

Russia:
F Con - Aeg
A Smy - Con
A Bul - Gre
A Ukr - Rum (Stand-off with German army from Galacia)
A Liv - War (Blocked by Russian army in Warsaw)
A War - Ukr (Blocked by Russian army in Ukraine)
F Bal - Kie
F Swe S F StP Nc - Nwy (Dislodged by German Fleet Norway, with support from German Fleet Denmark)
F StP Nc - Nwy
F Bar S F StP Nc - Nwy (Support cut by attack from French Fleet NRG).

[Capt Spanner]

Russian fleet Sweden retreats to BOT.

We're now into Autumn 1906 until October 6th.

Move deadline is October 7th.

[Murska]

Would France like to make a truce?

Italy is under my protection, so you'd need to cease your attacks against him aswell, but other than that leaving things as is would be good with me. :smallsmile:

...:smalltongue:

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Haha. No. Germany and I have plans to move forever eastward!

[Murska]

Towards the Border of the Map... AND BEYOND!

Well, I imagine you'll still be moving Eastward(through Germany) once I'm gone. :smalltongue:

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Hey, if I can, I'll win with Germany. I mean, it's to the point where it's not economical to stab him.

[Murska]

Maybe, but that's sadly impossible. It'd be a very different game if you could win with someone.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Maybe, but that's sadly impossible. It'd be a very different game if you could win with someone.

Check the rules: if it's just the two of us left, then we share victory.

[Murska]

Check the rules: if it's just the two of us left, then we share victory.

Umm... No.

I don't know what rules you've read, but the only way to win Diplomacy is to gain 18 centers. If no player reaches 18, it's a tie between those still alive, while if someone is still alive once a player reaches 18 that player loses.

[Capt Spanner]

Check the rules: if it's just the two of us left, then we share victory.

I'm afraid that's a draw, not a victory.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

I'm afraid that's a draw, not a victory.

I'm oddly okay with that. I suppose this is what I get for basing all of my knowledge off of variants.:smallredface:

[Starfols]

So you're going to keep attacking me then? I see how it is. :smallfrown:

Thanks again, Murska.

[Murska]

Well I've been trying my best.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Yeah, sorry about that, Starfols. My plans to annihilate Italy kind of came into play the turn before I removed you from England, so it's just an unfortunate continuation there.

[Capt Spanner]

24 hours to go.

Send ya' moves in, those who haven't already.

[Capt Spanner]

Autumn 1906:

Austria:
A Budapest - Rumania (Stand-off with Russian A Ukr)
A Serbia supports A Budapest - Rumania (Support cut by attack from Russian A Serbia.)
A Vienna - Trieste
A Bohemia - Vienna

France:
Army London Holds
Fleet Norwegian Sea to Norway
Fleet Skagerak supports Fleet Norwegian Sea to Norway
Army Gascony Holds
Fleet Western Mediterranean supports Army North Africa to Tunis
Army North Africa to Tunis
Fleet Tyrhennian Sea to Rome - Blocked by French A Roma.
Army Rome to Venice - Stand-off with Italian A Venezia.
Army Piedmonte supports Army Rome to Venice

Germany:
F Sweden hold
F denmark support Sweden
A gal - boh
A mun suuports A Gal - boh
A Prussia - Silesia
A Berlin Hold
A Kiel Hold

Italy:
A Ven - Rom - Stand-off with French A Roma.
F Nap S A Ven - Rom
F Ion - Adr

Russia:
F Bar - Nwg
F Nwy S F Bar - Nwg (Dislodged by French F NRG.)
F GoB - Swe - Defending German fleet holds successfully.
F Bal S F GoB - Swe
A Lvn S A War
A War S A Bud - Gal (Supported move wasn't made.)
A Ukr - Rum (Stand-off with Austrian A Bud)
A Con - Bul
A Gre - Ser (Stand-off with Austrian A Ser)
F Aeg - Ion

[Capt Spanner]

Retreats:
Russian F Swe to BOT.

Builds:
France: F Brest, A Marseilles

Disband:
Inferred: Italy F Adriatic Sea.


Spring 1907 starts now.
Phase ends 13th October.
Move deadline is 14th October.

[Deathslayer7]

is it possible to change the deadline to the 15th? I have a test on the 14th and i still dont know what my moves are going to be.

[Murska]

is it possible to change the deadline to the 15th? I have a test on the 14th and i still dont know what my moves are going to be.

Hmm. I don't know if I'd mind you missing a few sets of moves considering what you've done so far... :smallwink:

[Capt Spanner]

is it possible to change the deadline to the 15th? I have a test on the 14th and i still dont know what my moves are going to be.

Very well. New deadline is the 15th.

[Capt Spanner]

24 hour notice.

[Murska]

-42 hours warning. Or somesuch.

[Capt Spanner]

I wanted to wait for all moves to be in - a player missing moves affects their allies quite badly too. The player who was late has had a really rough weekend but now has their move in.

I, however, need sleep, and so will post the adjudication tomorrow.

Apologies for the delay.

[Capt Spanner]

Thanks for your patience.

Spring 1907:

Austria:
A Budapest - Galicia
A Vienna supports A Budapest - Galicia
A Trieste - Tyrolia (Stand-off with German A Boh)
A Serbia holds (Dislodged by Russian A Bul with support form A Gre).

France:
London holds
Norway supports Skagerak to North Sea.
Skagerak to North Sea.
Fleet Brest to English Channel.
Army Gascony to Burgundy (Stand-off with German A Mun)
Piemonte to Tuscany.
Marseilles to Piemonte.
Tunisia to North Africa.
West Mediterranean to Tyrhennian Sea (Blocked by French F TYN)
Tyrhennian Sea supports Rome to Naples (Support cut by Russian F ION)
Rome to Naples (Stand-off with Italian F Nap)

Germany:
F Swe S F Den - Ska.
F Den - Ska.
A Boh - Tyr (Stand-off with Austrian A Tri)
A Mun - Bur (Stand-off with French A Gas)
A Kie - Hol.
A Sil - Boh (Blocked by A Boh)
A Ber - Kie.

Italy:
F Nap S A Ven - Rom (Support cut by by attack from French A Roma with support from F TYN)
A Ven - Rom (Stand-off with French A Rom)

Russia:
F Nwg - Cly.
F Nth - Lon (Stand-off with French A Lon, dislodged by French F Ska with support from F Nor)
F Bal - Den.
F GoB - StP SC.
A Liv - War (Blocked by A War)
A War - Gal (Stand-off with Austrian A Bud with support from A Vie)
A Ukr - Rum.
A Bul - Ser.
A Gre S A Bul - Ser.
F Ion - Tyn (Stand-off with French F TYN)

[Capt Spanner]

Retreats were:

Austrian A Serbia to Albania;
Russian F North Sea to Belgium.

We are now in diplomacy phase for Autumn 1907.
Move Deadline is October 24th.

[Capt Spanner]

I totally forgot today was the deadline.

24 hours notice then.

[Murska]

Indeed... *shifty eyes*

[Capt Spanner]

Austria:
A Galicia - Ukraine (Stand-off with Russian A War).
A Vienna - Budapest
A Albania - Serbia (Stand off with Russian A Ser, supported by A Rum. DISLODGED by Russian A Gre, supported by F ION)
A Trieste supports A Albania - Serbia

France:
Army North Africa to Tunis
Fleet West Mediterranean to Tyrhennian Sea (Blocked by F TYN)
Fleet Tyrhennian Sea to Naples (Stand-off with Italian F Nap)
Rome supports Fleet Tyrhennian Sea to Naples (Support cut by Italian A Venice.)
Piemonte supports Tuscany to Venice
Tuscany to Venice
Gascony to Burgundy (Stand-off with German A Mun)
Army London to York
English Channel supports North Sea to Belgium
North Sea to Belgium (Stand-off with Russian F Bel, supported by German A Hol)
Norway to Saint Petersburg North Coast (Stand-off with Russian A Lvn. DISLODGED by German F Ska, supported by F Swe)

Germany:
F Ska - Nwy
F Swe S F Ska - Nwy
A Hol S F Bel
A Kie - Ruh
A Mun - Bur (Stand-off with French A Gas)
A Sil - Gal (Stand-ff with Austrian A Gal)
A Boh - Vie

Italy:
A Ven-Rom (Stand-off with French A Rom. DISLODGED by French A Tus supported by A Pie).
F Nap S A Ven-Rom (Support cut by attack from French F TYN)

Russia:
F StP - GoB
F Den - Nth (Stand-off with French F NTH)
A Lvn - StP (Stand-off with French F Nor)
A War - Ukr (Stand-off with Austrian A Gal)
A Rum S A Ser
A Ser S A Rum (Support cut by attack from Austrian A Alb)
A Gre - Alb
F Ion S A Gre - Alb
F Bel Hold
F Cly - Lvp

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Germany, where was the love?

[Capt Spanner]

Ok, build/disband/retreat orders:

Austria disbands A Galacia.
France disbands F Norway and F Western Med.
Germany builds A Berlin
Italy didn't send a retreat order, so A Venezia is disbanded.
Russia builds F Stevastopol, A Moscow, F St. Petersburg NC.

We now enter Spring 1908.
Deadline for moves is 1st November.

[Capt Spanner]

24 hours to move deadline, folks.

[Capt Spanner]

Spring 1908 moves:

Austria:
A Trieste holds.
A Budapest holds.

France:
Army Tunis holds.
Army Venice supports Army Trieste.
Army Piemonte to Tuscany.
Army Rome to Naples (Stand-off with Italian A Nap, supported by Russian F ION.)
Fleet Tyrhennian supports Army Rome to Naples
Army York to Liverpool (Stand-off with Russian F Liv)
Fleet North Sea to Edinburgh
Fleet English Channel to North Sea
Army Gascony to Paris

Germany:
Fleet Norway supports Fleet Sweden (Support cut by Russian F StP)
Fleet Sweden supports Fleet Norway
Vienna supports Budapest
Army Munich - Kiel
Army Ruhr supports Army Holland - Belgium
Army Holland - Belgium
Army Berlin - Prussia
Army Silesia- Galicia (Stand-off with Russian A War)

Italy:
F Napoli holds

Russia:
F StP - Nwy (Stand-off with German F Nwy)
F Den S F Nwy - Nth (Supported move wasn't made)
F Lvp Hold
F Bel - Eng
A Mos - Ukr
A War - Gal (Stand-off with German A Sil)
F Sev - BLA
A Rum S A Ser - Bud
A Ser - Bud (Stand-off with Austrian A Bud, with support from German A Vie)
A Alb - Ser (Blocked by A Ser)
F Ion S F Nap
A Lvn - War (Blocked by A War)
F GoB - Bal

There is no business to resolve, so we'll plough straight ahead:

Autumn 1908. Move deadline 6th November.

[Capt Spanner]

Moves in within 24 hours, please.

[Capt Spanner]

Austria:
A Trieste holds
A Budapest holds
(No moves submitted)

France:
Fleet Edinburgh supports Fleet North Sea
Fleet North Sea supports Fleet Edinburgh
Army York to London
Army Paris to Brest
Army Venice supports Army Trieste
Army Rome to Apulia
Army Tuscany to Rome
Fleet Tyrhennian Sea supports Army Tuscany to Rome (Support cut by attack from Italian F Nap)
Army Tunis holds.

Germany:
Fleet Norway - St Petersburg (Stand-off with Russian F StP)
Fleet Sweden - Denmark Stand-off with Russian F Den, with support from F Bal)
Army Kiel supports Fleet Sweden - Denmark
Silesia - Galicia (Stand-off with Russian A Ukr, supported by A Rum)
Prussia - Warsaw (Stand-off with A War)
Army Rhur - Munich
A Belgium Hold
A Vienna S A Budapest

Italy:
F Nap-Tyn

Russia:
F StP Nc - Nwy (Stand-off with German F Nwy)
F Bal S F Den - Swe
F Den - Swe (Stand-off with German F Swe, supported by A Kie)
F Lvp Holds
F Eng - MAt
F Ion S F Nap (Supported move not made)
F Bla - Con
A Alb S A Ser
A Ser S A Tri
A Rum S A Ukr - Gal
A Ukr - Gal
A War S A Ukr-Gal (Support cut by attack from German A Prussia)
A Lvn S A War

[Capt Spanner]

Build phase:

France builds a fleet in Marseilles.

Spring 1909: Diplomacy phase until 11th November. (Armistice Day, though I doubt that will be reflected in the moves...(
Deadline for moves is 12th November.

[Deathslayer7]

Stop. I should have a build too from Belgium too no? And shouldnt Russia have to disband possibly? I dont think so since he had an extra build.

Fleet in Berlin please.

[Murska]

You lost Edinburgh despite betraying me for some unfathomable reason. Again.

[Deathslayer7]

ah ok. :smallredface:

and i dont know why you keep insisting i hand you the victory on a silver platter.

[Capt Spanner]

Stop. I should have a build too from Belgium too no?


You lost Edinburgh despite betraying me for some unfathomable reason. Again.

Indeed. I put a summary of how many supply centres were gained and lost and where specifically to make such calculations easy. (It's in the "Summary of last move" section - which also lists any moves that failed and any units that have been forced to retreat.)


And shouldnt Russia have to disband possibly? I dont think so since he had an extra build.

No. At the last build Russia gained four supply centres but only three units. Losing a supply centre means Russia now has equal number of units and supply centres.

So now:
{table=head]Supply centres|Units
StP|StP
Mos|Lvn
War|War
Ste|Bal
Lvp|Lvp
Den|Den
Rum|Rum
Ser|Ser
Bul|Alb
Gre|Ion
Con|Con
Ank|Gal
Smy|MAO
13|13[/table]

No disband needed.

[Murska]

ah ok. :smallredface:

and i dont know why you keep insisting i hand you the victory on a silver platter.

Because your options are:

Try to win, and almost certainly get second place while I win.
Give up winning, leaving it up to me and France whether we want a two-way or a three-way tie.

And I've helped you much more during this game than anyone else, like, say, France.

[Deathslayer7]

Because your options are:

Try to win, and almost certainly get second place while I win.
Give up winning, leaving it up to me and France whether we want a two-way or a three-way tie.

And I've helped you much more during this game than anyone else, like, say, France.

No ruler wants second place. That is not a win Murska. I already told you.

And I helped you more then you helped me, so I believe I helped the most out of anyone this game. So you got nothing there.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Hey now, I've already mentioned I'm cool with a two way win with me and Germany. Despite the earlier stab, I'd say Deathslayer has been more than kind to me and I plan on trying to return the favor.

[Murska]

No ruler wants second place. That is not a win Murska. I already told you.

And I helped you more then you helped me, so I believe I helped the most out of anyone this game. So you got nothing there.

So why do you refuse to even try to win? It doesn't take a genius to see that your only chance for that is to attack both me and France, slowing me down while grabbing the weak and undefended centers he has.

For France... Yeah, well, unless I give up you're not going to be able to kill me before 2011.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

So why do you refuse to even try to win? It doesn't take a genius to see that your only chance for that is to attack both me and France, slowing me down while grabbing the weak and undefended centers he has.

For France... Yeah, well, unless I give up you're not going to be able to kill me before 2011.

Yeah, I am pretty undefended, but that's Diplomacy for you. Stabs happen. I mean,things are going well in Italy for me now, so troops can rebase shortly and the chance that this power trio flies around is still in the air.

[Deathslayer7]

I already told you. If I kill off France now I will die too.

What you are asking me to do is kill off an ally that can help me stop the threat from killing me.

[Murska]

Yeah, I am pretty undefended, but that's Diplomacy for you. Stabs happen. I mean,things are going well in Italy for me now, so troops can rebase shortly and the chance that this power trio flies around is still in the air.

Yeah. But stop being all level-headed here while I'm trying to prod fun at Germany. :smalltongue:

I still don't quite understand why you squeezed over half of your entire powerbase into Italy. You could've taken it with half that number and now you're gonna have to squeeze through Venice, kill off Austria and take me on. It's gonna take forever.

Oh, and Germany: Stop trying to claim you're playing for victory if you don't have the guts to risk losing to pursue your one chance at winning. That's playing for tie at most. 'not dying to Russia' does not victory make.

EDIT: What about this: We play until the end of this year, and then end the game uti possidetis? :smallbiggrin:

Imagine world history with Russia controlling part of Britain, Portugal, Balkans, Turkey and some of Austria, Germany controlling Vienna and Scandinavia and France having taken over Italy and most of Britain? :smalltongue:

[Capt Spanner]

Forgot to post last night. :smallredface:

Moves in 24 hours from now please :smallsmile:

[Capt Spanner]

I'm still waiting for two players to send moves.

You know who you are.

[Murska]

Why wait? A deadline is a deadline.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

I'm kind of with Murska on this one.

[Deathslayer7]

maybe but sometimes real life does get in the way. But I sent them in an hour ago.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

If we're waiting on Italy, he's done for, so let's just move on.:smalltongue:

[Murska]

We're not waiting for Italy, so I guess it's Austria. And he's also done for.


EDIT: Oh, and Deathslayer - I'm always willing to setup your moves for you. It worked out great for you last time. :smallsmile:

[Errandir]

Nope, I sent my moves in on time.

[Murska]

Hm. Odd, I got a PM from Italy saying he'd sent his.

[Capt Spanner]

With all due apologies for lateness:

Austria:
A Budapest holds (Forced to retreat by Russian A Rum supported by A Ser)
A Trieste holds

France:
Fleet Edinburgh to Clyde (Stand-off with Russian F Lvp)
Army London to York
North Sea to Denmark
Brest to Gascony
Fleet Marseilles to Spain SC (Stand-off with Russian F MAt)
Venice supports Trieste
Rome supports Apulia to Naples
Tyrhennian Sea supports Apulia to Naples (Support cut and forced to retreat by attack from Italian F Nap with support from Russian F Ion)
Apulia to Naples
Tunis holds.

Germany:
Norway support Sweden - Finland (Support cut by Russian F StP NC)
Sweden - Finland
Prussia Supports Silesia - Warsaw
Silesia - Warsaw (Stand-off with Russian A War, supported by A Lvn)
Munich - Bohemia
Belgium - Ruhr
Vienna - Gal (Stand-off with Russian A Gal)
(A Kie holds - implied) (Dislodged by Russian F Den with support from F Bal)

Italy:
F Nap-Tyr

Russia:
F MAt - Spa SC (Stand-off with French F Mar)
F Lvp - Cly (Stand-off with French F Edi)
F StP NC - Nwy (Stand-off with German F Nwy)
F Bal S F Den - Kie
F Den - Kie
A War S A Gal (Supported move not made.*)
A Lvn S A War
A Rum - Bud
A Gal - Vie (Stand-off with German F Vie)
A Ser S A Rum - Bud
A Alb - Tri (Stand-off with Austrian A Tri)
F Con - Aeg
F Ion S F Nap - Tyr

*Did you mean to correct this to "A War S A Gal - Vie"? This is a moot point, actually, since support would have been cut by German A Sil anyway.

[Deathslayer7]

berlin please. and were you planning on telling me you were trying to take denmark france?

[Murska]

Hey, don't fault France for also wanting to win.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Hey, it was not me "taking Denmark" so much as it was me trying to bump up Russia.

[Murska]

By taking Denmark.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

By taking Denmark.

I wasn't expecting you to get dislodged there, though.

[Murska]

I wasn't expecting you to get dislodged there, though.

I wasn't. :smallwink:

I was expecting that, however.

[Capt Spanner]

Retreats are:

French fleet from Tyrhennian Sea to West Med.
German army from Kiel to Berlin.

Autumn 1909: diplomatic phase ends 21st November.
Moves by 22nd please.

You are encouraged to send interim moves (which you are free to amend or replace) to keep the speed of the game up. Having a turn full of "hold positions" right now would ruin any of the major three players.

[Capt Spanner]

Move deadline is in 24 hours. Please hit it this time.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

If we keep this stalemate up for the next couple of years, how about we let Italy take over America as the troops land in England? :smallbiggrin:

[Starfols]

Oh my god holy crap there's a website here. I almost forgot this place existed :smalleek:

If I had america, I might still have a fighting chance! Naw, I'd just lose it again, like I did the other two countries. :smalltongue:

[Murska]

If Italy gets America, then I want my Asian holdings! Infinite manpower ftw! :smalltongue:

[Capt Spanner]

Spring 1909:

Austria:
A Trieste holds (Dislodged by Russian A Ser, with support from A Bud and A Alb)

France:
Tunis holds (Dislodged by Italian F TYN, with support from Russian F ION)
Western Mediterranean supports Tunis (Support cut by attack from Russian F MAO)
Rome supports Naples
Naples supports Rome
Marseilles to Spain SC
Gascony to Brest
York to Liverpool (Stand-off with Russian F Lvp)
Denmark supports Berlin to Kiel
Venice supports Trieste
Edinburgh to North Sea

Germany:
Norway - St Petersburg
Finland supports Norway Saint Petersburg
Prussia - Livonia (Stand-off with Russian A Liv and dislodged by Russian F Bal, supported by A War)
Army Ruhr - Holland
Berlin - Kiel
Silesia - Berlin
Vienna support Trieste (Support cut by attack from Russian A Gal)
Bohemia - Galicia (Stand-off with Russian A Gal)

Italy:
F tyn-tun

Russia:
F StP S A Liv (Dislodged by attack from German F Nor supported by F Fin)
A Liv S F StP (Support cut by attack from German A Pru)
F Bal - Pru
A War S F Bal - Pru
A Gal - Vie (Stand-off with German A Vie)
A Kie - Ber (Repulsed and dislodged by German A Ber, with support from French F Den)
F Lvp Holds
A Bud S A Ser - Tri
A Ser - Tri
A Alb S A Ser - Tri
F MAo - WMe (Stand-off with French F WMe)
F Ion S F Tyr - Tun
F Aeg - Gre

Map will be updated soon, and those with retreats to make will be PM'd.

[Murska]

Damn, bad luck with my guesses this turn. :smallfrown:

[Capt Spanner]

Retreat orders:
Austrian A Trieste disbands.
French A Tunisia to North Africa
German A Prussia disbands
Russian F St. Petersburg to Barents Sea
Russian F Kiel to Baltic Sea

Available build orders:
France: 1 (already got it)
Germany: 2 (Three actually, but Kiel is occupied)
Russia: 1 (Due to playing a unit down the last turn)

Austria is now out of the game. Thank you for playing, Errandir.

[Murska]

Well, I'd like to say I did pretty well, considering it was the entire world against me, and I never even betrayed anyone. But that was such a disastrous turn, it's good bye Mother Russia. :/

[Deathslayer7]

so shall we all agree to a three way draw then? :smallamused:

[Capt Spanner]

Builds:
France: Fleet in Marseilles
Germany: Army in Munich
Fleet in Berlin
Russia: Army in Moscow.

It's now Spring 1910.
Move deadline is November 28th.

[Murska]

Nah... I mean, I wouldn't feel any more the loser if I fought to the end and died last, or if I agreed to a three-way tie in a losing position. Especially since that'd be kind of unfair to my long-time ally, Italy. Four-way draw with Italy getting Rome back would be fine to me, though.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Nah... I mean, I wouldn't feel any more the loser if I fought to the end and died last, or if I agreed to a three-way tie in a losing position. Especially since that'd be kind of unfair to my long-time ally, Italy. Four-way draw with Italy getting Rome back would be fine to me, though.

Yeah, I'm going to do everything in my power to get Italy out. No offense to the new Italian president, but it was a plan I'd been working on since the previous ruler attacked Austria.

[Murska]

Yeah, I'm going to do everything in my power to get Italy out. No offense to the new Italian president, but it was a plan I'd been working on since the previous ruler attacked Austria.

I thought you were doing everything in your power to strike a blow against Mother Russia? :smallfrown:

I had hoped I was a priority.

[Deathslayer7]

you are to me. :smallsmile:

[Murska]

I'm still willing to agree to a truce with you, Germany. I'm even willing to agree to a truce where you don't attack France. As long as you move your armies off the no-man's land between our borders, leave St. Petersburg to me and don't threaten my lands, I'll withdraw my forces and start convoying them into France and Italy.

[Deathslayer7]

so what your saying is that, I have armies surronding Germany from the Noth all the way to the West. I also have some fleets to the North. I want you Germany, to stop attacking me and retreat.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Germany has a point, there really only are three of us left. So, you're basically asking him to sit still and let you win, Murska.

[Murska]

Well, you're asking him to sit still and let you win. Why is it more important for him to attack Russia and let France win than to attack France and let Russia win? At least by attacking France he'd gain supply centers. By attacking Russia, he's bashing his head into my wall of armies, while I'm bashing my wall of armies against his head and France is laughing. If he were to attack France, he'd be bashing his head against France's soft unprotected underbelly, while France would be going all 'oof!' and doubling over, and I'd be laughing.

If you've got no choices that'd help yourself, why not pick the choice that'd let you do something?

[Deathslayer7]

beacuse as im bashing France's underbelly, your bashing my back. so either way I dont win. So it's a lose-lose situation for me. So then why not cut you down to France's playing field and let you two duke it out. I like that idea. :smallamused:

[Thrice Dead Cat]

beacuse as im bashing France's underbelly, your bashing my back. so either way I dont win. So it's a lose-lose situation for me. So then why not cut you down to France's playing field and let you two duke it out. I like that idea. :smallamused:

And I'm more than cool with this idea! Because, after all has been said and done, Germany has had my back since year one! I mean, there have been times when it might have been better for me to do a stab, but I'd rather get Germany up to field and work with him. After all, he helped me get rid of the those damned Limey bastards.

[Murska]

Yeah. A lose-lose situation, and Germany is more content doing nothing than doing something. His call.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Yeah. A lose-lose situation, and Germany is more content doing nothing than doing something. His call.

Hey, to be fair to him, he did steal St. Petersburg from you.

[Deathslayer7]

Yeah. A lose-lose situation, and Germany is more content doing nothing than doing something. His call.

You want me to do something Murska? Fine. I'm going to bash my head against your head.

[Capt Spanner]

Due to a miscounting, I mistakenly thought Russia had 14 supply centres, when they actually have 13.

This means the build Russia was given has now been corrected. There is no army in Moscow. My apologies to Murska for the mistake, and my thanks too to Murska for gamely pointing it out.

[Capt Spanner]

24 hours for moves, please.

[Capt Spanner]

Spring 1910:
FRANCE:
A Rome supports Naples
A Naples supports Rome
A Venice to Trieste (Stand-off with Russian A Alb)
F Western Mediterranean to Tunis
A North Africa supports Western Med. to Tunis (Support cut and DISLODGED by attack from Italian F Tun, supported by Russian F MAO)
Spain to West Med.
F Marseilles to Gulf of Lyon
A York to Liverpool (Stand-off with Russian F Lvp)
A Brest holds
F North Sea to Norway (Stand-off with Russian F BAR)
F Denmark to Baltic Sea (Stand-off with German F Ber)

GERMANY:
A Vienna - Galicia
A Bohemia support Vienna - Galicia (Move reinstated)
A Silesia support Vienna - Galicia (Support cut by attack from Russian A War)
A Kiel-Denmark (Stand-off with French F Den)
F Berlin - Baltic Sea (Stand-off with French F Den)
A Munich Tyrolia
A Holland - Kiel (Blocked by A Kie)
F Finland - BOT
F STP(NC) support Finland - BOT (F StP (NC) - BOT is an illegal move, hence this support move can't be made. In any case - support would have been cut by attack from Russian A Lvn)

ITALY:
F Tun - NAf

RUSSIA:
Army Livonia - St. Petersburg (Stand-off with German F StP)
Fleet Barent's Sea - Norway (Stand-off with French F NTH)
Fleet Baltic Sea - Sweden
Fleet Prussia - Berlin (Stand-off with German F Ber)
Army Warsaw - Silesia (Stand-off with German A Sil)
Army Galicia - Bohemia (Stand-off with A Boh, dislodged by attack from German A Vie with support from A Boh)
Army Budapest S Army Trieste - Vienna
Army Trieste - Vienna
Army Albania - Trieste (Stand-off with French A Ven)
F Ion - Tyn
F MAt S F Tun - NAf
F Lvp Holds
F Gre - Ion

There are no loose ends to resolve, so we move straight on to Autumn 1910.

Move deadline is 2nd November.

[Deathslayer7]

question: why is Vienna not at Galicia. It had Bohemia and Silesia support. I know both were cut, but the attack that cut the bohemia support was Galicia-Bohemia. So as the army moves there, wouldn't my army move into Galicia without any trouble since nothing is opposing it as Murska didnt have anything moving or supporting Galicia?

[Capt Spanner]

A stand-off occurs and the army in Galacia doesn't move, creating a stand-off with the army in Vienna which, without support, can't dislodge the army in Galacia.

[Deathslayer7]

A stand-off occurs and the army in Galacia doesn't move, creating a stand-off with the army in Vienna which, without support, can't dislodge the army in Galacia.

but that's exactly my point. Galicia did move to cut off support from Bohemia.

[Murska]

Yeah, I think Deathslayer is right. An army cannot cut support in an attack against itself.

EDIT: If it's ruled a dislodge, Galicia retreats to Rumany.

[Capt Spanner]

I've checked, and you're correct.

Amendment:

Russian army in Galacia is dislodged to Rumania by attack from German army in Vienna.

The move post will be altered to reflect this.

[Deathslayer7]

So just another quick question: wouldn't the same thing happen at Denmark, since Denmark moved to Baltic where i moved Kiel to Denmark but then he moved back. But by that time i was already there, so shouldnt it be dislodged too?

And if that is true than Kiel should be in denmark and holland should be in Kiel.

[Murska]

You hit France in the Baltic. I didn't even try to move there.

Also, I think there's a French fleet missing from West Med.

[Deathslayer7]

I know. But it's the same principle isn't it?

Denmark - Baltic
Prussia- Baltic
Kiel - Denmark

[Murska]

No? Denmark collided with Berlin in the Baltic. There was a stand-off, so the fleet in Denmark didn't actually go anywhere. Then you attacked it from Kiel with only one unit, and didn't manage to dislodge it since defender has an advantage.

[Deathslayer7]

ok. the way i see it was this. Denmark went and attacked Baltic but there was a stand off. I went and attacked Denmark and it was free, since the moves would happen simultaneously. From there, Blatic moves back to Denmark just to find it taken and is dislodged.

But that still doesnt make sense though. Going by your way what you are saying is that Denmark moved and attacked Baltic as did I but also defended Denmark from an attack by Kiel. So in theory it basically shut down my two armies to his one.

I don't have anything against it but I'm just trying to wrap my mind around this concept.

[Murska]

That's exactly how it works. That's why standoffing two of your own armies lets you hold three spots at once.

[Deathslayer7]

huh. okay. didnt know that.

[Capt Spanner]

24 hours before moves are due, gentlemen.

[Capt Spanner]

Autumn 1910:

France:
F Tunis to Ionian Sea (DISLODGED by Italian F NAf, supported by Russian F Ion)
F Western Mediterranean Sea to Tyrhennian Sea
F Gulf of Lyon supports Western Mediterranean Sea to Tyrhennian Sea
F North Sea to Norway (Stand-off with Russian F Swe)
F Denmark to Sweden (Stand-off with Russian F Swe)
A Rome supports Naples
A Naples supports Rome
A Brest holds
A York to Liverpool (Stand-off with Russian F Lvp)
A Venice supports Tyrolia to Trieste (Supported move not made.)

Germany:
A Galicia- Ukraine
F Bot support St Petersburg
F St Petersburg (NC) hold.
A Kiel- Denmark (Stand-off with French F Den)
A Holland - Kiel (Stand-off with German F Kie)
F Berlin- Prussia (Stand-off with Russian F Pru)
A Silesia suuport Berlin - Prussia (Attacked by Russian A War)
A Bohemia support Tyrolia - Vienna
A Tyrolia - Vienna

Italy:
F Tun - F NAf

Russia:
F Bar S A Lvn - StP
A Lvn - StP (Stand-off with German F StP, supported by F BOT)
F Swe - Nwy (Stand-off with French F NTH)
F Pru - Ber (Stand-off with German F Ber)
A War - Sil (Stand-off with German A Sil)
A Rum S A Vie - Gal
A Bud S A Alb - Tri
A Vie - Gal
A Alb - Tri
F Ion S F NAf - Tun
F Tyr - WMe (DISODGED by attack from French F WMe, with support from F GoL)
F MAt - Por
F Lvp Holds

[Murska]

Hmm. Not a bad moveset, all considered. Didn't achieve some objectives but didn't suffer any disastrous setbacks either.

It looks like the Anti-Russian alliance has some communication problems?

[Capt Spanner]

Retreats:
French F Tunisia - Western Med.
Russian F Tyrhennian - Tuscany

Disbands:
French F Gulf of Lyon
German A Holland.

Builds:
Russian A Moscow
Russian F Stevastopol

Spring 1911 move deadline is 7th December.

[Murska]

Can someone count the centers/units again. I keep getting 10 centers 9 units for France.

[Deathslayer7]

i got 10 centers too. :smallsmile:

[Capt Spanner]

Murska's right. My apologies to France. Your fleet in the Gulf of Lyon is being returned to you.

[Murska]

It wouldn't do to crush my opponents while they're underhandedly weakened, after all. :smalltongue:

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Wait, Gulf of Lyon is back in action! Wooo! Free wine for those troops then!:smallbiggrin:

[Capt Spanner]

I need move orders in the next 24 hours. Thanks.

[Deathslayer7]

ummm can it be a little more than 24 hours? I am currently in final exams and such. I have one tomorrow from 1-3 then I should get home. I might make the deadline, might not. Right now I'm about to go to a study group, and I have one tuesday morning as well. But I should get in Wed night for sure.

[Capt Spanner]

Ok. Midnight Wednesday then.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

I'm actually getting into finals week, too, so some extra time would be nice.

[Murska]

Did I want extra time when it was my exams? No? That's right! :smalltongue:

Oh well. Crushing inactive armies isn't fun anyway.

[Capt Spanner]

I hope everyone's finals go well.


France:
A York to Liverpool (Stand-off with Russian F Lvp)
A Brest to Gascony
A Rome supports Naples
A Naples supports Rome
F Gulf of Lyon to Spain SC (Stand-off with Russian F Por)
F Western Mediterranean supports F Tyrhennian to Tunis
F Tyrhennian to Tunis (Stand-off with Italian F Tun, supported by Russian F ION)
F North Sea to Skagerrak
F Denmark to Sweden (Stand-of with Russian F Swe)
A Venice to Trieste (Stand-off with Russian A Tri)

Germany:
A Ukr - Moscow (DISLODGED by attack from Russian A Rum, supported by A Mos. No valid retreat: DISBANDED)
F St Petes' hold
F Gulf of Bothmia support St Pete's
A Vienna support Venezia into Trieste (Support cut by Russian A Bud)
A Bohemia - Galicia (Stand-off with Russian A Gal)
A Silesia - Warsaw (Stand-off with Russian A War)
F Berlin - Prussia (Stand-off with Russian F Pru)
A Kiel - Munich

Italy:
F Tun S F Ion (Support cut by attack from French F Tyr, with support from F WMe)

Russia:
F Bar - Nwy
F Swe S F Bar - Nwy (Support cut by attack from French F Den)
A Mos S A Rum - Ukr
A Rum - Ukr
F Sev Holds
A Lvn S A War
A War S A Gal (Support cut by German A Sil)
F Pru - Ber (Stand-off with German F Ber)
A Gal S A Bud - Vie (Support cut by attack from German A Boh)
A Bud - Vie (Stand-off with German A Vie)
A Tri S A Bud - Vie (Support cut by attack from French A Ven)
F Lvp Holds
F Por - Spa SC (Stand-off with French GoL)
F Tus - Pie (Yay pie!)
F Ion S F Tun


We're going straight to Autumn 1911.
Next move deadline is 14th December.
If this is a problem, let me know sooner rather than later, please.

[Deathslayer7]

shouldnt a russian army be in lvn (livonia)?

[Capt Spanner]

Yes.

That's now been corrected.

[Murska]

I'm running out of places where I can spot a local advantage... Damn. We're gonna get stalemated soon.

[Capt Spanner]

Could I have moved in the next 24 hours, please.

[Murska]

Who's missing? I sent mine, right?

[Capt Spanner]

Who's missing? I sent mine, right?

I've had a couple of days of fail and unexpected busy-ness.

In any case, I'm actually missing moves from two players, who I am now PMing to pester them for moves.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

So, Germany and Italy, then.

[Deathslayer7]

ill get mine in tomorrow morning. :smallredface:

[Murska]

Italy's move doesn't matter, as long as they don't give up. Whatever else they do, it won't change a thing.

[Capt Spanner]

France:
F Denmark supports Skagerak to Sweden.
F Skagerak to Sweden.
F Gulf of Lyon to Spain SC.
F Tyrhennian Sea convoys Rome to North Africa through Western Mediterranean.
F Western Mediterranean Sea convoys Rome from Tyrhennian Sea to North Africa.
A Naples supports Tyrhennian Sea (Units can only support territories they could move into. Thus an army can't support a sea territory.)
A Rome convoyed via Tyrhennian Sea and Western Mediterranean Sea to North Africa.
A York to Liverpool. (Stand-off with Russian F Lvp. The dance festival is disrupted.)
A Venice to Trieste (Stand-off with Russian A Tri)
A Gascony to Marseilles

Germany:
F Bot support SKA - Sweden
F StP - Norway (Stand-off with Russian F Nor. DISLODGED by attack from Russian A Mos supported by A Lvn)
F Berlin support silesia - prussia
A Munich - Tyrolia
A Vienna - Budapest (Stand-off with Russian A Bud)
A Bohemia support Vienna (Supported move was not made)
A Silesia - Prussia

Italy:
F Tun holds (no move submitted)

Russia:
F Ion S F Tun
F Por - MAo
F Pie S A Gas - Mar
F Sev - Bla
F Lvp Holds a Dance Festival
F Nwy S F Swe (Cut by attack from German F StP (NC))
F Swe S The Finnish Initiative for the Annexation of Sweden (Cut and DISLODGED by attack from French F SKA, supported by F Den and German F BOT...not that I could figure out what this was supposed to be supporting anyway.)
F Pru - Ber (Stand-off with German F Ber. DISLODGED by attack from German A Sil, supported by F Ber)
A Lvn S A Mos - StP NC
A Mos - StP NC
A War S A Gal - Sil
A Gal - Sil
A Ukr - Gal
A Bud - Vie (Stand-off with German A Vie)
A Tri - Ven (Stand-off with French A Ven)

[Murska]

All will fall under the pure white of Tsarist Russia!

Also...

France:
A York to Liverpool. (Stand-off with Russian F Lvp. The dance festival is disrupted.)


You fiend!

[Thrice Dead Cat]

All will fall under the pure white of Tsarist Russia!

Also...


You fiend!

Hey, by this point, the dance festival is the the Russian navy anticipating the glorious French army!

[Murska]

Hey, by this point, the dance festival is the the Russian navy anticipating the glorious French army!

"Hey mom? What's a French Army?"
"It's like Santa Claus."
"Like dad in a red suit and a big fake beard?"
"...let's go with that."

Maybe they were anticipating the glorious French Army to come near the city and then run back to York in terror without firing a shot, like always? :smalltongue:

[Thrice Dead Cat]

"Hey mom? What's a French Army?"
"It's like Santa Claus."
"Like dad in a red suit and a big fake beard?"
"...let's go with that."

Maybe they were anticipating the glorious French Army to come near the city and then run back to York in terror without firing a shot, like always? :smalltongue:

Clearly the issue is that that army consists of the native British troops. Freaking Limeys couldn't safe their homeland, but at least they're trying to get Liverpool back to their benevolent rulers on the mainland.

[Murska]

All true British are helping their government-in-exile in Italy. :smalltongue:

[Thrice Dead Cat]

All true British are helping their government-in-exile in Italy. :smalltongue:

I think you mean North Africa. :smalltongue:

[Murska]

Well, the Government-in-exile-from-Britain in Italy who's in exile in Tunis. :smallbiggrin:

[Capt Spanner]

Retreats are:
German F St.P (NC) - disbanded
Russian F Swe - Fin; F Pru - BAL.

Builds are:
French F Bre
Russian A Mos

[Capt Spanner]

There will be a Christmas break, so you don't have to worry about move deadlines.

The timeline for the restart is:

January 2nd: Spring 1912 diplomatic phase resumes.
January 5th: Spring 1912 diplomatic phase ends and I post a 24 hour warning notice.
January 6th (midnight GMT): Deadline for moves, and adjudication.

Could Starfols please PM me at some point to re-assure me they're still playing.


Merry Christmas all!

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Well, unless things have changed, looks like it's time to do some talking, gang!

[Capt Spanner]

Indeed.

Time to get going again.

We now enter Spring 1912. I hope you enjoyed Christmas.
Move deadline is midnight, January 6th.

[Murska]

Remind me if I sent my moves pre-break?

[Deathslayer7]

still here. tired as hell. Had to watch 4 little kids run around the house for 4 days in a row.

*breaks down and cries*