Durkon sending scroll

[Ladorak]

I know 733 is mainly a joke thread, and wasting an extra sending is important plot wise because it forces Durkon to actually GO to the Palace. But it did occur to me that I don't think Durkon has used a sending scroll since the three fiends told V he had one, were they lying? They'd have no reason to tell the truth after all... If V didn't take the offer what harm in letting his family die?

[FeanorFireHeart]

Durkon never used sending scrolls , Nale did. Durkon used his sending spells. This means as long as he has those spells prepared for the day he can use them anytime, where as a scroll is used once and one would have to buy a new one. Chances are Durkon prepares at least 1 or 2 sending spells a day in case he gets split up from his party again. Making it available for use by V during the V vs Dragon story arc. Hypothetically speaking.

[Silver Swift]

The fiends explicitly stated that Durkon was saving a scroll.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0634.html

[FeanorFireHeart]

The fiends explicitly stated that Durkon was saving a scroll.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0634.html

ah my bad. Perhaps he used it already for Haley earlier when the party got back together? Then again Durkon has problems with numbers, perhaps he forgot he has it?

[Shale]

Or possibly, since he knows where his friends are and that they're innocent of Nale's crimes, he doesn't consider this an emergency?

[Gift Jeraff]

The fiends explicitly stated that Durkon was saving a scroll.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0634.html

They also said Durkon was on a ship, even though he left days ago (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0643.html).

We can't trust everything the fiends said to Vaarsuvius. In DStP, Rich says the fiends made that crazy alternate solution just so V knew s/he was only doing this out of his/her pride, thus making room for vile acts to take place. (Plus, if V felt s/he only made the deal to save his/her family, then there would have been a decent chance of V willfully ending the Soul Splice sometime between defeating the ABD and teleporting to the fleet, thus ruining the IFCC's gambit to have him/her attack Xykon.)

[RndmNumGen]

I know 733 is mainly a joke thread, and wasting an extra sending is important plot wise because it forces Durkon to actually GO to the Palace. But it did occur to me that I don't think Durkon has used a sending scroll since the three fiends told V he had one, were they lying? They'd have no reason to tell the truth after all... If V didn't take the offer what harm in letting his family die?

Yeah, I brought this up in the main 733 thread, but it was dismissed because of other inaccuracies in the fiend's data. See the post above mine, for instance.

[Silver Swift]

They also said Durkon was on a ship, even though he left days ago (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0643.html).

We can't trust everything the fiends said to Vaarsuvius. In DStP, Rich says the fiends made that crazy alternate solution just so V knew s/he was only doing this out of his/her pride, thus making room for vile acts to take place. (Plus, if V felt s/he only made the deal to save his/her family, then there would have been a decent chance of V willfully ending the Soul Splice sometime between defeating the ABD and teleporting to the fleet, thus ruining the IFCC's gambit to have him/her attack Xykon.)

Ooh, I never noticed that. And now that I reread it, the fiends tell him not to worry about the casting time of sending, but wouldn't the resurrection take 10 minutes as well (see here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0650.html))?

[Malek2991]

Ooh, I never noticed that. And now that I reread it, the fiends tell him not to worry about the casting time of sending, but wouldn't the resurrection take 10 minutes as well (see here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0650.html))?

Yup... but Varsuvius didn't know the casting time of ressurection until after the Soul splice already occured, V would know the casting time of Sending because it is also on the Wizard's spell list. Evil Fiends lie all the time :) Incidently the Fiend that said it was not the Lawful one...

[Devils_Advocate]

Then again Durkon has problems with numbers, perhaps he forgot he has it?
He wouldn't be the first member of the Order to forget about an item (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0443.html) that would have been useful (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0234.html). (In fact, both potions would have been useful, since Roy was considering using an improvised quarterstaff. I never even noticed that until now. Man, the Giant was subtle with that one.)


Ooh, I never noticed that. And now that I reread it, the fiends tell him not to worry about the casting time of sending, but wouldn't the resurrection take 10 minutes as well (see here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0650.html))?
You know, when I first read strip #634, I assumed that the implication was that 10 minutes would be enough time to stop the dragon, but 20 minutes wouldn't be. Maybe because I also assumed at that point that Vaarsuvius knew how long a Resurrection takes. But in retrospect, what the hell was I thinking? The fiends are clearly just lying. (Or they don't know the casting time for Resurrection either (and also don't know that Durkon isn't still back with the fleet), but I'm guessing that at least one of them does.)


Incidently the Fiend that said it was not the Lawful one...
Well, the yellow fiend says "There is another way to save them", and the orange fiend claims that the dragon can "certainly" be stopped before binding V's family's souls. But if you look at their entire conversation with V, each one leaves off a disclaimer at some point, only to have it added on by another one. (And each one of them makes one of the disclaimers, too.) It seems that each of them makes at least one potentially misleading claim, but of course technically lying is all that a devil is obligated to avoid... (It hasn't been definitively established which fiend is which race yet, has it?)

[sihnfahl]

If V didn't take the offer what harm in letting his family die?
You mean other than Momma Dragon having promised that she'd bind the souls of V's two kids so that V couldn't have them resurrected? And that she'd find a very, VERY remote place so that V could never get the souls back?