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WarKitty
2010-07-24, 01:05 PM
What feats would you provide for a tripper build based on natural weapons? It's based on a wolf animal companion; Improved trip is out unless I can find a way to get an Int of 13.

Gnaeus
2010-07-24, 01:33 PM
What feats would you provide for a tripper build based on natural weapons? It's a wolf base so Improved Trip is probably unnecessary.

Improved trip is always necessary for a tripper. It adds +4 to your chance of success and gives a followup attack. The only time you DON'T want improved trip with a tripper is if you are mimicing a tripper by other means, like Knockdown, and even then Improved Trip has some benefits.

Edit: but to answer your question:
Martial Study/Martial Stance Thicket of Blades, Combat Reflexes, Improved Natural Attack, Something to give you 10' reach, maybe Delay Potion so that you can make yourself big or buff your Str in combat.

Greenish
2010-07-24, 01:38 PM
It's a wolf base so Improved Trip is probably unnecessary.Did you read what Improved Trip does? How is hitting twice a turn unnecessary? (Especially since a wolf only has one natural attack, and you don't get iteratives on it.)

WarKitty
2010-07-24, 01:43 PM
Improved trip is always necessary for a tripper. It adds +4 to your chance of success and gives a followup attack. The only time you DON'T want improved trip with a tripper is if you are mimicing a tripper by other means, like Knockdown, and even then Improved Trip has some benefits.

Edit: but to answer your question:
Martial Study/Martial Stance Thicket of Blades, Combat Reflexes, Improved Natural Attack, Something to give you 10' reach

Thanks. It's actually for an animal companion as per pathfinder rules, which let you customize the feats and skill points your companion has. The first two have to be "animal feats" http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/basic-classes/druid#TOC-Animal-Feats , although I could probably argue for improved trip to be included there.

Edit: I just noticed improved trip has a Int: 13 requirement. So that's out, as is anything else with an Int of over 3 required.

Gnaeus
2010-07-24, 01:48 PM
Pathfinder core, pathfinder + 3.5? What books are available? (you probably want to include (PF) in your thread titles, as people usually assume 3.5.

In PF, improved trip is less important, but you still probably want it as a link in the improved trip chain.

WarKitty
2010-07-24, 01:50 PM
Pathfinder core, pathfinder + 3.5? What books are available? (you probably want to include (PF) in your thread titles, as people usually assume 3.5.

In PF, improved trip is less important, but you still probably want it as a link in the improved trip chain.

Pathfinder + 3.5, anything goes. And anyone know any ways to get an Int of 13 on an animal companion?

Gnaeus
2010-07-24, 01:52 PM
Pathfinder + 3.5, anything goes. And anyone know any ways to get an Int of 13 on an animal companion?

Take 3 levels of wizard and enter the Arcane Hierophant PRC.

OK, so improved trip is probably out. Tome of battle is still very good, so Martial Study and Martial Stance are still winners. Improved natural attack is still good.