What did Vecna look like?

[Guinea Anubis]

So before he turned him self in to a lich what did Vecna look like?

[Prodan]

Snape. Snape. Severus Snape.

[Skeletor]

Damn for some reason I always thought of vecna as a she, maybe I got him confused with someone else.

[Machiavellian]

Damn for some reason I always thought of vecna as a she, maybe I got him confused with someone else.

Probably Wee Jas.

Back to the original question, I would actually suggest Urza (see avvy) as Vecna's true appearance

[arguskos]

Vecna's appearance has never been clarified, and frankly, I think that's part of the point. Little is known about his human days, and that's probably how he wants it and likes it. God of secrets and all that jazz, after all. :smallamused:

[Doug Lampert]

Vecna's appearance has never been clarified, and frankly, I think that's part of the point. Little is known about his human days, and that's probably how he wants it and likes it. God of secrets and all that jazz, after all. :smallamused:

People should have a pretty good idea. They keep running into his body parts like the hand, eye, and head (http://www.blindpanic.com/humor/vecna.htm) after all.

[arguskos]

People should have a pretty good idea. They keep running into his body parts like the hand, eye, and head (http://www.blindpanic.com/humor/vecna.htm) after all.
Two are desiccated, the third belongs to someone else (hurrdurrdurr :smalltongue:).

Hell, you can't even tell what color his eye was, nor his skin color on his hand, due to age.

I really don't think folk know much if anything about Vecna's life, and I feel that's how the god wants it.

[Adumbration]

You know, I'm willing to bet he was a small, middle-aged man who looked like a clerk, dressed modestly and spoke quietly.

It's a surprisingly good method of slipping through the mid-levels into the epic.

[Coidzor]

You know, I'm willing to bet he was a small, middle-aged man who looked like a clerk, dressed modestly and spoke quietly.

It's a surprisingly good method of slipping through the mid-levels into the epic.

Wait... did he become a wizard-king before or after lichdom? :smallconfused:

[Morph Bark]

Wasn't there also a Vecna's Ear or something? I recall there was another bodypart of his in either official or Dragon material, something besides the Eye or Hand.

[Coidzor]

Wasn't there also a Vecna's Ear or something? I recall there was another bodypart of his in either official or Dragon material, something besides the Eye or Hand.

Well, just as long as no one ever finds Vecna's Pancreas.

[Fax Celestis]

Snape. Snape. Severus Snape.

Badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger

MUSH ROOM MUSH ROOOOOOOM


AAAAH A SNAPE

[Coidzor]

Badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger

MUSH ROOM MUSH ROOOOOOOM


AAAAH A SNAPE

:smalltongue: Sillybutt. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx1XIm6q4r4)

Though a mashup between the two would be nice... But the animation for the Potter variant is .... scary...

[Tiki Snakes]

Snape. Snape. Severus Snape.

http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/celebrity-pictures-alan-rickman-girl-hair.jpg?w=500&h=375
Seconded.

[The Glyphstone]

Well, just as long as no one ever finds Vecna's Pancreas.

Rejected WotC Dungeon Modules - #1337: The Appendix of Vecna.

[Fax Celestis]

Rejected WotC Dungeon Modules - #1337: The Appendix of Vecna.

They rejected it because it wasn't a module, just a listing of various status effects.

[Aotrs Commander]

Actually Die Vecna Die (which, being about the last of the AD&D modules, neatly covered Vecna's ascention to godhood and provided a plausible in-universe reason for the "change" to 3.0) had several other relics of Vecna. His other eyeball, his fingers and even a tooth (as I recall off the top of my head). I believe perhaps even part of his intenstines as well, and some skin, I think. (Hilariously, sowing even Vecna cultists have a sense of humour, there was even the Head of Vecna, enshrined as the others, in all it's fakeness for anyone who didn't look hard enough...!) They were in fact instrumental in stopping him becoming ruler of the multiverse, as when a group of adventures encountered him in Sigil, only those who bore his relics were immune to his divine decrees.

This did cause some humourous moments, as the description of his eye started with something about a shrivelled orb and my players immediately jumped to the wrong conclusion. (I doubt even the fate of the universe hanging in the balance would have been enough to get them to attach that worst case scenario!)

[The Glyphstone]

Actually Die Vecna Die (which, being about the last of the AD&D modules, neatly covered Vecna's ascention to godhood and provided a plausible in-universe reason for the "change" to 3.0) had several other relics of Vecna. His other eyeball, his fingers and even a tooth (as I recall off the top of my head). I believe perhaps even part of his intenstines as well, and some skin, I think. (Hilariously, sowing even Vecna cultists have a sense of humour, there was even the Head of Vecna, enshrined as the others, in all it's fakeness for anyone who didn't look hard enough...!) They were in fact instrumental in stopping him becoming ruler of the multiverse, as when a group of adventures encountered him in Sigil, only those who bore his relics were immune to his divine decrees.

This did cause some humourous moments, as the description of his eye started with something about a shrivelled orb and my players immediately jumped to the wrong conclusion. (I doubt even the fate of the universe hanging in the balance would have been enough to get them to attach that worst case scenario!)

Would it give Lich Loved as a bonus feat?

[Thurbane]

Well, I don't know about pre-lich, but these should give some clues:

http://i35.tinypic.com/2z6ut51.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/qp2kv9.jpg

As for the hand and eye:
http://i34.tinypic.com/153xoqh.jpg

[The Glyphstone]

Pic of Vecna post-Lichdom

Only problem is, post god-hood he's got the Secrets portfolio, which Divine Shapechange is listed as a potential power for. Any pictures of him then are just want he wants you to think he looks like.:smallbiggrin::smallcool:

[herrhauptmann]

:smalltongue: Sillybutt. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx1XIm6q4r4)

Though a mashup between the two would be nice... But the animation for the Potter variant is .... scary...

Bwahahahah!!!!
That was awesome.

[Marnath]

My vote is Sean Connery but with like a broken nose and pockmarked face. Or that guy who plays Imhotep in The Mummy.

[Zombieboots]

Rather Lame, but Vecna is an anagram of Jack Vance's name. So I've always just pictured V as Jack. Though Jack himself doesn't look particularity evil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Vance

[Machiavellian]

My guess, Dave Noonan (the old host of the D&D podcast). In fact, I see many of the gods looking like D&D editors, creators, ect. (For instance: Io looks like a rainbow dragon with Gary Gygax's face)

[BobVosh]

Well, I don't know about pre-lich, but these should give some clues:

http://i35.tinypic.com/2z6ut51.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/qp2kv9.jpg

So he went from Snape to Voldemort. Interesting.

[Coidzor]

My guess, Dave Noonan (the old host of the D&D podcast). In fact, I see many of the gods looking like D&D editors, creators, ect. (For instance: Io looks like a rainbow dragon with Gary Gygax's face)

I'm going to have nightmares now. :smallfrown:

Was Robilar one of Gygax's kids or a friend of his?

[Mystic Muse]

Yo momma.

I'm sorry but it had to be said. The above modules probably give some indication though.

[Eronai_Jantig]

Was Robilar one of Gygax's kids or a friend of his?

Friend, Rob Kuntz, as per the wiki article:


Robilar was a fighter belonging to Rob Kuntz. Like Murlynd, Robilar was also created for the second-ever session beneath Castle Greyhawk in 1972, rolled up on Gygax's kitchen table. Gygax suggested to Kuntz the name of Robilar, after a minor character in Gygax's novella The Gnome Cache. Because Kuntz was a constant player, Robilar rapidly gained power and possessions. As the city of Greyhawk was developed, he also became the secret owner of the Green Dragon Inn in the city of Greyhawk, where he kept tabs on happenings in the city. Kuntz quickly grew impatient with play when it involved more than a couple of players, and often played solo adventures one-on-one with Gygax. Robilar was not only the first to reach the 13th and bottom level of Gygax's Greyhawk dungeons, but on the way, he was also responsible for freeing nine demi-gods (whom Gygax revived a decade later as some of the first deities of Greyhawk: Iuz, Ralishaz, Trithereon, Erythnul, Olidammara, Heironeous, Celestian, Hextor, and Obad-Hai). Robilar was also the first to enter Gygax's Temple of Elemental Evil, and trashed it from top to bottom, even freeing the demoness Zuggtmoy from her prison at the centre of the Temple. Kuntz later related that Gygax was very dismayed that his masterpiece dungeon had been destroyed by a single adventurer, and as punishment, Gygax had an army pursue Robilar all the way back to his castle, which Robilar was forced to abandon. Robilar even lost possession of the Green Dragon Inn

[BobVosh]

Robilar was a fighter belonging to Rob Kuntz. Like Murlynd, Robilar was also created for the second-ever session beneath Castle Greyhawk in 1972, rolled up on Gygax's kitchen table. Gygax suggested to Kuntz the name of Robilar, after a minor character in Gygax's novella The Gnome Cache. Because Kuntz was a constant player, Robilar rapidly gained power and possessions. As the city of Greyhawk was developed, he also became the secret owner of the Green Dragon Inn in the city of Greyhawk, where he kept tabs on happenings in the city. Kuntz quickly grew impatient with play when it involved more than a couple of players, and often played solo adventures one-on-one with Gygax. *snip*

Why does this read a bit like holy text?

[Marnath]

Why does this read a bit like holy text?

I'm not sure what you mean, but discussing that sort of thing almost always gets out of hand. Better to not even get started about holy texts.

[Hurlbut]

So he went from Snape to Voldemort. Interesting.Interesting but Vecna came before Harry Potter :smalltongue:

[Aran Banks]

before becoming a lich, he probably looked young and sexy... I don't have any good pictures, but maybe one of (http://spectralfairy.deviantart.com/art/The-Necromancer-141568458?q=boost%3Apopular+necromancer&qo=23) these (http://dogeva.deviantart.com/art/Necromancer-94623565?q=boost%3Apopular+necromancer&qo=68).

Something young, then middle-aged, then zombified.

[Aotrs Commander]

Would it give Lich Loved as a bonus feat?

I would not give that feat to anything, ever!
That Feat Does Not Exist. There is no such feat and never was! I don't care what the BoVD says. That Feat Does Not Exist.

[BobVosh]

I would not give that feat to anything, ever!
That Feat Does Not Exist. There is no such feat and never was! I don't care what the BoVD says. That Feat Does Not Exist.

You are destroying Tsukiko's (http://oots.wikia.com/wiki/Tsukiko) aspirations.

[Coidzor]

before becoming a lich, he probably looked young and sexy... I don't have any good pictures, but maybe one of (http://spectralfairy.deviantart.com/art/The-Necromancer-141568458?q=boost%3Apopular+necromancer&qo=23) these (http://dogeva.deviantart.com/art/Necromancer-94623565?q=boost%3Apopular+necromancer&qo=68).

Something young, then middle-aged, then zombified.

Actually that last one sorta fits with my interpretation of the aesthetic that'd have been around in the pseudo-tribal Pre-Suel Imperium city-states when Vecna was alive and kicking it before he became a Lich-King. Can't remember how much the junior of Vecna Kaz was though...

Considering I think in some interpretations of things, Vecna made himself the first lich and Kaz the first vampire during/before their conquest of most of the Suel peoples, is quite possible they knew one another while alive.

[Thurbane]

If you have Lich Loved and Faeire Mysteries Initiate, does that mean you gedditawn with undead and fey?

[faceroll]

before becoming a lich, he probably looked young and sexy... I don't have any good pictures, but maybe one of (http://spectralfairy.deviantart.com/art/The-Necromancer-141568458?q=boost%3Apopular+necromancer&qo=23) these (http://dogeva.deviantart.com/art/Necromancer-94623565?q=boost%3Apopular+necromancer&qo=68).

Something young, then middle-aged, then zombified.

I always figured vecna would look like this:
http://www.infendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/nerd-46422.jpg


is quite possible they knew one another while alive.

Knew knew? Time for some slashfic.

[Zaydos]

Well Thurbane scarred me, but I think I might need to go hide in a corner after faceroll. Although that would explain Kas's extreme hatred of Vecna, hell hath no fury...

[Coidzor]

If you have Lich Loved and Faeire Mysteries Initiate, does that mean you gedditawn with undead and fey?

If only you could combine the two, it'd save a lot of time.

[Aotrs Commander]

You are destroying Tsukiko's (http://oots.wikia.com/wiki/Tsukiko) aspirations.

Damn straight I am! And if, in the highly unlikely situation I actaully meet her, I will take a great deal of personal satisfaction in...re-educating her - at length - that Undead (PROPER Undead, not those practically living vampire scum), especially Liches do not do that. Which is unfortunate, since aside from that she had potential. Unfortunate, but oh so necessary. (Not to mention what I'd do to the guy who did not write That Feat. They would't be enough left of his soul to resurrect, let alone his body.)

I loathe it when the living project their foul little mating-rituals onto us. Part of the entire point of Lichdom in particular is to drop such petty nonconcerns.

I find the whole thing to be an insult - no, an affront - to the very core of being a Lich. You probably have to be a Lich to fully comprehend it, though. {Scrubbed}
Anyhoo, we're getting off topic (sorta...), but it was an important point that needed to be made...

[Kaww]

So before he turned him self in to a lich what did Vecna look like?

Are you really asking what does/did god/goddess of secrets look like?

[BobVosh]

Are you really asking what does/did god/goddess of secrets look like?

He can't tell you, its a secret.

[Kaww]

He can't tell you, its a secret.

Psst! It's a secret.

[Ashes]

Posting this in spoilertags, because I'm not quite sure if it's okay. I just couldn't help it :smallbiggrin:

http://i.imgfrog.com/OY6I.jpg

[Humanaut]

IIR, was he not of Flan decent? If so, then I seem to remember in WoG that would be similar to our Native American tribes.

Off the top of my head, Oerth Journal #1, Timeline article:

http://www.oerthjournal.com/oj1.html

One opinion at least. :smallsmile:

[Denizen]

From the adventure "Die Vecna Die"


Within a split second, the decaying, rotting form that had been struggling with luz is transformed into a tall, dark-haired man with handsome features. His eyes glow with an unholy red fire, and a cold, humorless grin appears on his face. "You have lost! You have all lost!," he bellows.

I assume that is his original appearance before he became a lich.

Before in the same adventure he simply described as:


a robe-clad, decaying skeleton with a single eye that glows with unearthly malevolence.

[Tiki Snakes]

From the adventure "Die Vecna Die"

Within a split second, the decaying, rotting form that had been struggling with luz is transformed into a tall, dark-haired man with handsome features. His eyes glow with an unholy red fire, and a cold, humorless grin appears on his face. "You have lost! You have all lost!," he bellows.



So, Snape Then. :smallwink:

[Peregrine]

So before he turned him self in to a lich what did Vecna look like?

It'd be worth knowing why you ask. As you've probably gathered by now, there's no answer in canon anywhere (not as far as the hive mind of the GitP forums knows, anyway). So if you're asking out of curiosity, there's your answer.

If on the other hand you want to use it in a game, well, I have to agree with the Snape suggestion... :smallbiggrin:


:smalltongue: Sillybutt. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx1XIm6q4r4)

Though a mashup between the two would be nice... But the animation for the Potter variant is .... scary...

You mean this? (http://www.thefifthdistrict.com/potter/)


Rejected WotC Dungeon Modules - #1337: The Appendix of Vecna.

Yes, it gives you evil bonuses on... all those things that... your appendix does. While rapidly turning your gut flora (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermiform_appendix#Possible_secondary_functions) evil.