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2010-08-04, 11:00 AM
what are the best tricks, methods, feats and options for a gestalt druid wizard (chiseled from a solid block of parmesan) to dominate thru abuse,manipulation or outright conquest of the action economy?

Note: psionics, incarnum, dungeonscape and tob not allowed.

2010-08-04, 11:04 AM
Be a summoner.

2010-08-04, 11:18 AM
You probably already know about Time Stop.

Use Genesis to create your own time accelerated demiplane, for fastercrafting / preparation etc

For brokeness, add some means to shoot spells onto other planes, while sitting on your time accelerated plane.

Craft Contingent Spell can work wonders, and *can* be strong without being broken.

Spellblade Tennis (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151109) is outright abusive.

2010-08-04, 03:22 PM
Be a summoner.
Necromancy would be better than most summons. Though planar binding is where you want to be.

With in the druids AC and the wizards familiar you are at a 3 to one ratio. Animate dead gives another boost.

Mind control gives a set of actions.

Then add spells that deny enemy actions, like solid fog and entangle.

Then make full use of your action economy. Quicken spell, celerity abrunt jaunt, that spell that summons a 5' cube.

2010-08-04, 03:27 PM
Also, get a Belt of Battle(MIC) for that extra action goodness!

2010-08-04, 04:15 PM
Druid into Planar Shepherd for at least 5 levels for the 10:1 planar time bubble.

See if PAO can get you into Beholder Mage without Metamorphic Transfer.

IIRC you can get both to level 9 spells in the same non-gestalt build. It shouldn't be hard to do in gestalt.

Planar Shepherd's stupid planar bubble can get you ten rounds for every 1 of your enemies', and Beholder Mage can cast one spell of each level per round as a free action - this still leaves you a full-round action to do druid stuff. So you can top out at 110 spells per round without Timestop or any other shenanigans if you like but you'll have to pursue further cheese to get that many spells to cast. Maybe Mage's Lucubration loops with Sanctum Spell or Tainted Scholar to just get a really large number of bonus spells (not to mention huge save DCs) would be sufficient.

This is basically the maximum level of cheese you can get that I know of without any infinite loops (of which there are tons anyway).