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Bagel
2010-08-09, 01:18 AM
i've seen a "lesser orb of force" mentioned on the boards here but despite my efforts i cannot Google up a source, official or third party, for this spell.

if anybody can link me or inform where i can find a printed version i'd appreciate it.

Thrice Dead Cat
2010-08-09, 01:23 AM
Complete Arcane. It was reprinted in Spell Compendium, both first party.

Bagel
2010-08-09, 01:25 AM
i see "orb of force" but not the lesser version

a page would be helpfull

Kylarra
2010-08-09, 01:30 AM
There isn't one AFAIK. It's just an extrapolation that people like to assume exists.

RMS Oceanic
2010-08-09, 01:30 AM
Thrice has got it wrong: I've checked both Complete Arcane and Spell Compendium and there is only the Orb of Force, not a lesser version.

Bagel
2010-08-09, 01:31 AM
is there a universally accepted houserule on this that i can find online or someone can post here?

Kylarra
2010-08-09, 01:38 AM
Most likely something like ranged touch @ medium range for D6 + 1D6/2 levels past 1st capped at 5D6.

Gorgondantess
2010-08-09, 01:41 AM
Most likely something like ranged touch @ medium range for D6 + 1D6/2 levels past 1st capped at 5D6.

The problem with that is that it is flat out more powerful than any of the other lesser orbs of X.

Bagel
2010-08-09, 01:41 AM
Most likely something like ranged touch @ medium range for D6 + 1D6/2 levels past 1st capped at 5D6.

yeah pretty much a copy of lesser orb of sound

Bagel
2010-08-09, 01:42 AM
The problem with that is that it is flat out more powerful than any of the other lesser orbs of X.

drop it to a d4 to balance?

Kylarra
2010-08-09, 01:44 AM
The problem with that is that it is flat out more powerful than any of the other lesser orbs of X.Ugh, you're right. I was too lazy to check up on the others, just remembering that acid is D8. Frankly, I prefer it simply to not exist, you already have MM for your easy force needs in level 1 slots.

Bagel
2010-08-09, 01:48 AM
was looking for the whole conjuration bypasses SR/magic immunity at early level with force descriptor to hit ethereal.

lesser orb seemed optimal

Kylarra
2010-08-09, 01:50 AM
was looking for the whole conjuration bypasses SR/magic immunity at early level with force descriptor to hit ethereal.

lesser orb seemed optimalI figured as much, that being both why I dislike the orbs on general principle and why I don't need a force one to exist in my games.

Bagel
2010-08-09, 01:52 AM
fair enough, but when your playing a blaster caster any edge you can get is a good idea.