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Human Paragon 3
2010-08-11, 11:02 AM
Blinding Color Surge from PHBII: Incredible spell!

It makes you invisible for 1 round/level like the higher-level improved invisiblity, and blinds a creature for 1 round if they fail their will save. Is there something I'm missing here, or is this spell as gangbusters as I've been playing it?

Frosty
2010-08-11, 11:09 AM
It's good in combat, but Glitterdust is generally better for in combat, and regular Invisbility is better fo utility and sneaking past (lasts longer)

balistafreak
2010-08-11, 11:10 AM
You're invisible for 1 round/level like improved invisibility, but said invisibility is not as improved invisibility. One offensive action and it's done.

Invisibility is generally not a mid-combat buff. A 1 round duration blind with a save is a pretty meh 2nd level spell. Combine the two, however, and you've got yourself a useful, good, if not encounter-ending spell. The invisibility's limited duration is generally not a problem in a tactical situation - you're probably going to burn it within one or two rounds to take an enemy by surprise anyhow.

It's basically a mid-combat invisibility spell that doesn't suck because you also get to directly affect an enemy with the same action. You don't need mid-combat invisibility that often, though, although it certainly doesn't hurt.

Saph
2010-08-11, 11:10 AM
It's a very nice spell, yes, since it's effectively an attack and a defence all for the price of one standard action. It doesn't last long, but neither do most combats.

Human Paragon 3
2010-08-11, 11:15 AM
You're invisible for 1 round/level like improved invisibility, but said invisibility is not as improved invisibility. One offensive action and it's done.



It's not as regular invisibility either. It says you gain the benefit of invisibility, not the invisibility spell. Invisible as a condition in and of itself isn't ended by making an offensive action.

Bayar
2010-08-11, 11:42 AM
It's not as regular invisibility either. It says you gain the benefit of invisibility, not the invisibility spell. Invisible as a condition in and of itself isn't ended by making an offensive action.

Actually, the word Invisibility is written in italics, which means it refers to the spell invisibility, not a condition.

DragoonWraith
2010-08-11, 11:51 AM
Yeah, you gain "invisibility", not "invisibility". It means the spell. Technically the condition is "Invisible", anyway. If it said "you become invisible", then you'd be correct.

Ernir
2010-08-11, 12:25 PM
It's a good, balanced spell, IMO.

subject42
2010-08-11, 12:40 PM
If you metamagic it with Still Spell and have a reasonably good bluff check, it makes a great GTFO button.

Keld Denar
2010-08-11, 12:45 PM
What if you cast an Invisible Spell Blinding Color Surge?

Olo Demonsbane
2010-08-11, 12:57 PM
What if you cast an Invisible Spell Blinding Color Surge?

Your DM hits you with a book :smalltongue:

Keld Denar
2010-08-11, 01:02 PM
Oh come on...thats not nearly as bad as say...

:smallcool:

Shooting yourself half a million times with a Repeating Aptitude Splitting Hand Crossbow...

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fax Celestis
2010-08-11, 01:04 PM
Oh come on...thats not nearly as bad as say...

:smallcool:

Shooting yourself half a million times with a Repeating Aptitude Splitting Hand Crossbow...

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guess he...

:smallcool:

...got shafted

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

BobVosh
2010-08-11, 01:07 PM
*cast protection from puns*
Now that I can post, blinding color surge is a great spell. Great thematics, good effects, and not too powerful. Glitterdust and web both beat it hands down as well.

mcl01
2010-08-11, 01:07 PM
You'd turn someone blind by the power of blinding invisible light. I.e. UV Rays. And then turn invisible yourself.

Boci
2010-08-11, 01:10 PM
Very good spell for the retributive metamagic.