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Wonton
2010-08-22, 08:18 PM
A friend of mine is going to be playing a Cleric, and he has DMM: Reach and a metamagic rod of Lesser Chaining. So what are some (preferrably 3rd level or lower) spells that are prime candidates to be chain reached? Greater Magic Vestment comes to mind. What else?

Dusk Eclipse
2010-08-22, 08:22 PM
Greater magic weapon, superior resistance, I don't remember if Bite of the Were X are on the cleric list, but they might be a good idea to chain.

Reach..... heal? I am not sure,

Andion Isurand
2010-08-22, 09:50 PM
Chain Spell (in Complete Arcane) states the spell must specify a single target.
Rays do not specify a target, they create an effect.

See "Aiming a Spell" in the PHB or SRD
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/spellDescriptions.htm#aimingASpell

from the WotC website
---> http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4ask/20080520a <----

dextercorvia
2010-08-22, 09:58 PM
Chain Spell (in Complete Arcane) states the spell must specify a single target.
Rays do not specify a target, they create an effect.

See "Aiming a Spell" in the PHB or SRD
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/spellDescriptions.htm#aimingASpell

from the WotC website
---> http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4ask/20080520a <----

I used to feel the same way, and then I reread the interactions. Touch spells have a target, and Reach doesn't take that away. So while you can't chain a ray, you can chain a reached touch spell.

Wonton
2010-08-22, 10:06 PM
Yeah, Reach doesn't make it into a Ray, it just changes range from Touch to 30ft. :smallconfused:

Any more suggestions?

Andion Isurand
2010-08-22, 10:27 PM
You may cast a spell that normally has a range of touch at any distance up to 30 feet. The spell effectively becomes a ray, so you must succeed on a ranged touch attack to bestow the spell upon the recipient. A reach spell uses up a spell slot two levels higher than the spell's actual level.

well, it does become a ray, but technically doesn't alter the target entry of the spell as per Dexter

Wonton
2010-08-22, 11:11 PM
I stand corrected then. :O

aeauseth
2010-08-23, 11:38 AM
Any "in battle" touch spell would be good for the Touch30ft, so all the cure X wounds.

Can't think of any more at the moment. For research I recommend Find Spell (http://www.imarvintpa.com/dndLive/FindSpell.php).
Do a search for cleric touch spells level 1-3 and see which ones interest you.

You can probably search for the ones with single targets for your chain as well.

Yorrin
2010-08-23, 11:56 AM
Shivering Touch. That is all.

Mongoose87
2010-08-23, 12:18 PM
Shivering Touch. That is all.

You're a bad person.