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Arq Kujos
2010-09-10, 02:59 PM
Hi guys. I am have been working on a concept for an arcane knight for a campaign I am in, and the first class to come to mind was the Duskblade. I've always liked the flavor of the Duskblade, but the more and more I work on the actual concept, the more I begin to see the inferiority of the class to things like clerics and such.

So, in my desperation, I come to you, the brilliant viewers of the fourms, to help me. I would love to see everyone's builds for arcane warriors, their remakes of the Duskblade (if such a thing exists), and anything else you feel may help me.

More details about the character can be given if requested, as can my original Duskblade build if you think it will help.

Thanks guys.

arguskos
2010-09-10, 03:07 PM
The Duskblade is actually quite fine. It's a Tier 3 class and is quite effective at killing things damn dead. Just cause it's not a Cleric doesn't make it BAD. It can hold it's own with the ToB classes and with things like PsyWars and whatnot.

Now, I do have this (courtesy of Roland St. Jude):

Duskblade spell list Expansion:
L0
Caltrops
Electric Jolt
Know Greatest Enemy
Launch Item
Stick

L1
Corrosive Grasp
Critical Strike
Deafening Clang
Fist of Stone
Ice Dagger
Lightfoot
Nerveskitter
Nightshield
Persistent Blade
Phantom Threat
Rhino's Rush
Snowshoes

L2
Battering Ram
Bladeweave
Body of the Sun
Bristle
Combust
Daggerspell Stance
Delusions of Grandeur
Fireburst
Flame Dagger
Infernal Wound
Ironthunder Horn
Mountain Stance
Rainbow Beam
Scorch
Shadow Spray
Weapon Shift
Wracking Touch

L3
Belker Claws
Body Blades
Clarity of Mind
Diamondsteel
Find the Gap
Knight's Move
Know Opponent
Moon Blade
Ring of Blades
Spectral Weapon
Spider Poison
Steeldance
Sppress Breath Weapon
Unluck
Whirling Blade

L4
Bands of Steel
Blindsight
Displacer Form
Flame Whips
Forcewave
Frost Breath
Lion's Charge
Mind Poison
Vulnerability

L5
Acid Sheath
Aura of Evasion
Charge of the Triceratops
Emerald Flame Fist
Fireburst, Greater
Girallon's Blessing
Ray Deflection
Translocation Trick

Complete Mage
Assassin Spells
Bloodletting (1)
Catsfeet (1)
Summon Weapon (2)
Rusted Blade (3) (or (4) as per Wiz/Sorc list)
Unseen Strike (4)

Wiz/Sorc Spells
Steam Jet (1)
Escalating Enfeeblement (2)
Heart of Air (2)
Tenacious Dispelling (3)
Heart of Water (3)
Prickling Torment (3)
Heart of Earth (4)
Crypt Warden's Grasp (5)
Touch of Vecna (5)
Heart of Fire (5)
Tactical Teleportation (6) as (5)


You might find that useful.

Arq Kujos
2010-09-10, 03:19 PM
The Duskblade is actually quite fine. It's a Tier 3 class and is quite effective at killing things damn dead. Just cause it's not a Cleric doesn't make it BAD. It can hold it's own with the ToB classes and with things like PsyWars and whatnot.

Now, I do have this (courtesy of Roland St. Jude):

Duskblade spell list Expansion:
L0
Caltrops
Electric Jolt
Know Greatest Enemy
Launch Item
Stick

L1
Corrosive Grasp
Critical Strike
Deafening Clang
Fist of Stone
Ice Dagger
Lightfoot
Nerveskitter
Nightshield
Persistent Blade
Phantom Threat
Rhino's Rush
Snowshoes

L2
Battering Ram
Bladeweave
Body of the Sun
Bristle
Combust
Daggerspell Stance
Delusions of Grandeur
Fireburst
Flame Dagger
Infernal Wound
Ironthunder Horn
Mountain Stance
Rainbow Beam
Scorch
Shadow Spray
Weapon Shift
Wracking Touch

L3
Belker Claws
Body Blades
Clarity of Mind
Diamondsteel
Find the Gap
Knight's Move
Know Opponent
Moon Blade
Ring of Blades
Spectral Weapon
Spider Poison
Steeldance
Sppress Breath Weapon
Unluck
Whirling Blade

L4
Bands of Steel
Blindsight
Displacer Form
Flame Whips
Forcewave
Frost Breath
Lion's Charge
Mind Poison
Vulnerability

L5
Acid Sheath
Aura of Evasion
Charge of the Triceratops
Emerald Flame Fist
Fireburst, Greater
Girallon's Blessing
Ray Deflection
Translocation Trick

Complete Mage
Assassin Spells
Bloodletting (1)
Catsfeet (1)
Summon Weapon (2)
Rusted Blade (3) (or (4) as per Wiz/Sorc list)
Unseen Strike (4)

Wiz/Sorc Spells
Steam Jet (1)
Escalating Enfeeblement (2)
Heart of Air (2)
Tenacious Dispelling (3)
Heart of Water (3)
Prickling Torment (3)
Heart of Earth (4)
Crypt Warden's Grasp (5)
Touch of Vecna (5)
Heart of Fire (5)
Tactical Teleportation (6) as (5)


You might find that useful.

First and foremost, thank you to both arguskos, whose name is strangely close to mine, and the Roalnd St. Jude. :smallsmile:

I'm going to have to go hunting to find out what all those spells are, but that is much more than I thought I would hear.

It pleases me to hear that the Duskblade is Tier 3.

Still, I'm always on the lookout for new builds, so by no means is this thread closed. If anyone has anything else to add, please do so.

Roc Ness
2010-09-11, 05:43 AM
Unnamedhero Chambers made a Duskblade Revision (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161773) that is rather akin to the Warlock. However, he made it for his own 3.5 Heroic variant system, so I'm not sure how it would balance with normal DnD, or exactly what is needed to convert it to normal DnD.