Uncanny Valley

[Ponderthought]

I brought you a gift!

It's... UNADULTERATED HORROR! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T09iknuzDlw&feature=player_embedded)

[Spiryt]

Rather boring when you watch it on Youtube, but if I was in one room with that thing, I would most certainly either run away in random direction, or bating it's head with this lamp over there.

[Snares]

Is that Shaye Saint John (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtSgWZbL_kE)?

[Rae Artemi]

You're not perfect. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qnMnpC-4P4&feature=related)

[Ponderthought]

You're not perfect. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qnMnpC-4P4&feature=related)

Oh good lord.

[CynicalAvocado]

love me some nightmare fuel:smallsmile:

[Rae Artemi]

Oh good lord.

So scary they had requests to take it's picture off of the Nightmare Fuel page for Courage the Cowardly Dog.

[CynicalAvocado]

whats your offer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_kyJTr33iM)

[Rae Artemi]

whats your offer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_kyJTr33iM)

After seeing that episode like four times at 3:00 AM, I have become immune to KING RAMSES! That man in gauze! The man in gauze!

[Ponderthought]

I actually found Ramses rather boring. *shrug*

[CynicalAvocado]

I actually found Ramses rather boring. *shrug*

when i first watched it i passed a brick...

also final boss of the internets (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P_BvrtuxAI&feature=PlayList&p=73E023C5A7E97B0F&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=19)

[Ponderthought]

Funny, ive never found those popular asian horror films all that disturbing, but their commercials..

Edit: Screw it, this is now a hunt for the most disturbing YouTube video. MarbleHornets is off limits. Go.

[CynicalAvocado]

Funny, ive never found those popular asian horror films all that disturbing, but their commercials..

you want commercials...

I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDbKlaWgR3Q) have (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suZZiXU9Z98) a few (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ7OxEKac4M&p=D873EA9578C941E0&playnext=1&index=72)

[Lycan 01]

I don't remember the "You're not perfect" thing from all those years of watching Courage. I think my mind blocked it out. :smalleek:

King Ramses, though, was awesome. It didn't scare me that much, but I was on the edge of my seat, especially near the end. In retrospect, one of my favorite Courage the Cowardly Dog episodes. (Coolness points to anyone who can guess my favorite episode. :smallwink:)

Man, I'm glad they started showing reruns again. :smallbiggrin:

[Thajocoth]

So... People find claymation and mannequins creepy or something?

[Ravens_cry]

You know people, though the Internet has taken it in a different direction, the Uncanny Valley as a technical term means when something looks really close to a human, but not quite and this freaks people to the hell out. At least that's the theory. A lot of 'realistic' human CGI tends to take this quality, especially when in motion, as does a lot of the attempts at photorealism with real-time human CGI, as seen in computer games.
Compare for example, Shepherd from Mass Effect with the stylized characters of Team Fortress 2.

[CynicalAvocado]

I don't remember the "You're not perfect" thing from all those years of watching Courage. I think my mind blocked it out. :smalleek:

King Ramses, though, was awesome. It didn't scare me that much, but I was on the edge of my seat, especially near the end. In retrospect, one of my favorite Courage the Cowardly Dog episodes. (Coolness points to anyone who can guess my favorite episode. :smallwink:)

Man, I'm glad they started showing reruns again. :smallbiggrin:

i found the freaky fred episode to be a bit unnerving, especially with that weird song

[Thajocoth]

You know people, though the Internet has taken it in a different direction, the Uncanny Valley as a technical term means when something looks really close to a human, but not quite and this freaks people to the hell out. At least that's the theory. A lot of 'realistic' human CGI tends to take this quality, especially when in motion, as does a lot of the attempts at photorealism with real-time human CGI, as seen in computer games.
Compare for example, Shepherd from Mass Effect with the stylized characters of Team Fortress 2.

Yeah, it's the dip right before perfectly realistic, where it looks almost human, but is ever so slightly off. I assumed that Ponderthought thought the mannequin to look nearly human. My only thought while watching was "What is it supposed to be saying? I can't understand it."

[Rae Artemi]

i found the freaky fred episode to be a bit unnerving, especially with that weird song

Which is why he is the page topper for the Courage nightmare fuel page.

[Ponderthought]

I have a few

I could never find that axe commercial disturbing..I love that song.

Also, thanks to you and Smokey, i think I had some sort of stroke

[CynicalAvocado]

I could never find that axe commercial disturbing..I love that song.

Also, thanks to you and Smokey, i think I had some sort of stroke

i hate... no i loathe creepy vintage commercials

[Reinboom]

I don't quite understand why any of this is supposed to be scary. :smallconfused:

[Thajocoth]

I don't quite understand why any of this is supposed to be scary. :smallconfused:

Same here. My best guess is that they just don't like claymation or mannequins, since most of these are one or the other.

[Rae Artemi]

The uncanny valley (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UncannyValley) in more detail.

[Ponderthought]

Same here. My best guess is that they just don't like claymation or mannequins, since most of these are one or the other.

It's the sort of Unheimliche feeling alot of these video's project. While things that are meant to be frightening usually dont bother me, there are things that weren't that just seem..extremely unnatural.

[Spiryt]

I don't quite understand why any of this is supposed to be scary. :smallconfused:

... Huh?

I don't really get "nightmarish", horrible or other stuff, either, but some of those are definitely unsettling.

Mannequins and robots like that just seem really weird when in motion, I guess that one of the points of "Uncanny Valey"?

[Lycan 01]

i found the freaky fred episode to be a bit unnerving, especially with that weird song

And you just inadvertently won Coolness Points. :smalltongue:


Which is why he is the page topper for the Courage nightmare fuel page.

He is? :smallconfused: I always thought Fred was a really cool antagonist. He's freaky, but he's not really a "bad" guy. Just a bit off in the head. I mean, compared to all the other stuff in Courage, why is he the top example of Nightmare Fuel? :smallconfused:

If its the song, then maybe its a good thing I no longer know the lyrics to the first stanza or so... :smallwink:

Hello my friends, my name is Fred. The words you hear, are in my head.

[Rae Artemi]

And you just inadvertently won Coolness Points. :smalltongue:



He is? :smallconfused: I always thought Fred was a really cool antagonist. He's freaky, but he's not really a "bad" guy. Just a bit off in the head. I mean, compared to all the other stuff in Courage, why is he the top example of Nightmare Fuel? :smallconfused:[/COLOR]

He isn't the top example, he is just the example that is scary enough that you remember him, but not so scary that you will have repressed memories welling up just by seeing a picture of him.

[CynicalAvocado]

He isn't the top example, he is just the example that is scary enough that you remember him, but not so scary that you will have repressed memories welling up just by seeing a picture of him.

what about that one violin playing girl with the demon face?

[Lycan 01]

^ THAT is what scarred me. :smalleek: I always had to look away when that part came up. *shudder*

[CynicalAvocado]

i'm just going to leave this here
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090705011306/courage/images/b/bc/Katz.png


edited because image 'sploded

[Rae Artemi]

i'm just going to leave this here
http://couragede.tripod.com/episodes/katz.jpg

That is the scariest thing ever. :smalltongue:

[CynicalAvocado]

That is the scariest thing ever. :smalltongue:

seriously, he was the ultimate sociopath

[Rae Artemi]

seriously, he was the ultimate sociopath

Re check your spoiler, your image went kablooie. :smalltongue:

[CynicalAvocado]

Re check your spoiler, your image went kablooie. :smalltongue:

well that was fast....

[Reinboom]

... Huh?

I don't really get "nightmarish", horrible or other stuff, either, but some of those are definitely unsettling.

Mannequins and robots like that just seem really weird when in motion, I guess that one of the points of "Uncanny Valey"?

... Huh?

I'm not getting any sort of unsettling feeling from these, either.

It's more just weird lined with annoying sounds.

[Spiryt]

... Huh?

I'm not getting any sort of unsettling feeling from these, either.

It's more just weird lined with annoying sounds.

Then it's pretty clear that you must be one of.... them..

* Runs away at full speed *

:smallbiggrin:

[CynicalAvocado]

i have an idea :smallbiggrin: what was your scariest IRL uncanny valley/nightmare fuel experience?

[Ponderthought]

I once had to get a foot brace from a lady that sells prostheses from her own house. it haunts me to this day.

[CynicalAvocado]

I once had to get a foot brace from a lady that sells prostheses from her own house. it haunts me to this day.

traffic jam in denver while they were building invesco field. it was midnight and i was forced to watch this tattered piece of tarp wave in the wind. it was rather unnerving for me (you had to have been there)

also, the dinosaur ride at disney's animal kingdom. i rode it last year and i didnt catch the last 5 minutes because i had literally bent double in my seat to avoid a divebombing pterodactyl


-edit. thank you for awakening my dormant fear of prosthetic limbs

[ghost_warlock]

Sweet, merciful Zalgo I love this thread. :smallbiggrin:

Just a few things I'll drop off.

Came across this on a random web surf. Maybe not particularly UV, but a bit unnerving for some, perhaps. Love that partial grin. :smallbiggrin:

http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq339/ghost_warlock/hello-kitty-anatomy-spin.gif

An old buddy of mine stumbled upon this and sent it to me, figuring I'd like it. I did, and used it as my facebook profile pic for a while.
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq339/ghost_warlock/gotobed.jpg

A mask from some online Halloween/FX shop.
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq339/ghost_warlock/FX-beast-foamprosthetic.jpg

VT's cousin?
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq339/ghost_warlock/critters.jpg

Edit:
Oh, and here's a picture a friend took of me a few years ago. Something about my arm and neck just seems...wrong. I can UV IRL?
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq339/ghost_warlock/arm.jpg

[Quincunx]

There's definitely something lacking. . .where the unsettling feeling ought to be. I've been more skeeved out by a good sculpture with an excellent grasp of anatomy. It was correct but created an illusion in the viewer's mind that was incorrect, so when the viewer went back to reality to trace the unsettling feeling, found no cause for it. Causeless upset is worse. Most of these don't have the subtlety to do that and just settle for the object itself being wrong, which is easy to dismiss.

[Coidzor]

OP. Oh god. Voice. So. ANNOYING. GROG WANT SMASH PUNY ELECTRONICS!

[_Zoot_]

when i first watched it i passed a brick...

also final boss of the internets (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P_BvrtuxAI&feature=PlayList&p=73E023C5A7E97B0F&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=19)

Bring up the flame-throwers, don't let it leave alive!

[Ponderthought]

Edit:
Oh, and here's a picture a friend took of me a few years ago. Something about my arm and neck just seems...wrong. I can UV IRL?

Actually the reason the arm is weird is how the picture cuts it off at the wrist. It makes it seem like that arm is much longer than it should be.


OP. Oh god. Voice. So. ANNOYING. GROG WANT SMASH PUNY ELECTRONICS!

Oh lord, I know. But it's the face that gets me. Thing looks like a goddamn corpse.


There's definitely something lacking. . .where the unsettling feeling ought to be. I've been more skeeved out by a good sculpture with an excellent grasp of anatomy. It was correct but created an illusion in the viewer's mind that was incorrect, so when the viewer went back to reality to trace the unsettling feeling, found no cause for it. Causeless upset is worse. Most of these don't have the subtlety to do that and just settle for the object itself being wrong, which is easy to dismiss.

I know that feeling..I occasionally get that feeling of strangeness without cause from certain buildings. Theres a few houses i refuse to enter simply because they seem..wrong, for no particular reason.

There is something to be said for some of the blatant "Oh good lord WTF IS THAT" things in this thread though.

[Brother Oni]

My vote for scariest uncanny valley videos on Youtube: Windowlicker and Come to Daddy, both by Aphex Twin.

[Pinnacle]

My only thought while watching was "What is it supposed to be saying? I can't understand it."

See the title of the video, "Fantastic Hey Hey Hey".
She alternates singing things like "I feel fantastic, hey hey hey," "You are fantastic, hey hey hey," and "Run run run!"
The last one doesn't seem to fit. :smalleek:

[CynicalAvocado]

Bring up the flame-throwers, don't let it leave alive!

http://media4.teenormous.com/items/faroutshirts.com/images-NukeSite-Preview.png

[Snares]

My vote for scariest uncanny valley videos on Youtube: Windowlicker and Come to Daddy, both by Aphex Twin.

Rubber Johnny creeps me out way more than either of those two. I actually have trouble watching Rubber Johnny at all.

[CynicalAvocado]

Rubber Johnny creeps me out way more than either of those two. I actually have trouble watching Rubber Johnny at all.

rubber johnny is kinda tame in my opinion

also


http://townesfox.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/original.jpg
smile, dog loves you

[Snares]

I dunno. It doesn't seem like it should creep me out that much, but there's just something about it that hits a spot right at the back of my spine, and gets me there every time...

I never found Smile.jpg that creepy though.

[Ponderthought]

Im not sure whether it's sad or awesome that my first reaction to that is "Who's a good boy!? You are!"

[CynicalAvocado]

Im not sure whether it's sad or awesome that my first reaction to that is "Who's a good boy!? You are!"

definite double taker for me. i was like, doggie... no.. wait.....

[Zom B]

Oh, hey, did anyone bring up this masterpiece of UV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirtgirlworld) being beamed at our kids (spoilered image)?

http://i54.tinypic.com/24mrr4w.jpg

Then there's the aptly named music video for Interpol's "Evil." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuHsY9GyoU4)

[Marillion]

rubber johnny is kinda tame in my opinion

also


http://townesfox.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/original.jpg
smile, dog loves you

As far as smiles go, this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYk5SumcxQw) is worse

[Sholos]

Is it bad if I haven't found anything on this to be all that creepy?

[Ravens_cry]

This dog may not be an example of the uncanny valley, but it freaks me right out.
Spoiled for sanity.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6787/82481555.jpg
Those eyes, those eyes . . .

[CynicalAvocado]

This dog may not be an example of the uncanny valley, but it freaks me right out.
Spoiled for sanity.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6787/82481555.jpg
Those eyes, those eyes . . .

http://letlifeloose.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/110986_smile-dog.jpg?w=300&h=246
just spreading the word....

[The Vorpal Tribble]

I'm particularly sensitive to the 'Uncanny Valley', especially if it has something to do with the eyes.

Eyes are the one thing that I first find attractive in someone, and the first thing to give me the 'go for the shotgun' impulse.

May also be because I've always paid a lot of attention to body language. Certain things just stand out more to me... and they need to be bitten.

Clowns, mannequins and certain (but not all) deformities have always increased my blood pressure. I seriously hate masks that have no expression. Just those blank ones are creepier than any amount of fang. Guess what my two eldest sisters collected by the way? Yeah, one carnival masks, the other clowns.

However, my cuz up there with the teeth, it don't bother me the slightest. He's a cool freud :smallbiggrin:

[KuReshtin]

There were a few adverts here that were a bit freaky a few years ago.

The Judderman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TUOPeNJCK8)

Also, I'm sure this has been linked to in another thread before, but THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dpzhMMFk5U) always caused me to react when it was shown on tv.

[Spiryt]

I seriously hate masks that have no expression. Just those blank ones are creepier than any amount of fang. Guess what my two eldest sisters collected by the way? Yeah, one carnival masks, the other clowns.

However, my cuz up there with the teeth, it don't bother me the slightest. He's a cool freud :smallbiggrin:

Hmm, then maybe you will like (in this thread sense of "like":smallwink:) reconstructions of Romans masks from Kalkriese.

http://www.nieczar.com/#/roman_masks

[The Vorpal Tribble]

There were a few adverts here that were a bit freaky a few years ago.
The Judderman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TUOPeNJCK8)
That was equal parts creepy and fascinating.


Also, I'm sure this has been linked to in another thread before, but THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dpzhMMFk5U) always caused me to react when it was shown on tv.
But that needs to die.


Hmm, then maybe you will like (in this thread sense of "like") reconstructions of Romans masks from Kalkriese.

http://www.nieczar.com/#/roman_masks
Hmm, oddly enough those don't even trigger a twinge. They have expressions afterall.

Something like these though give me the willies:
http://www.lynchs.com/images/4541.jpg

[Terumitsu]

A Thread full of cool stuff!

Anyway, I think I've made myself immune to being unnerved with this sort of thing with my many years of delving into the strange, wierd, macabre, and right up unsettling. I think most of it is actually kinda cool and I like the tiny thrill that comes up when the brain says, 'Wait, that's not quite right...' Though that thrill might be a learned responce from what I mentioned above. I suppose that's why I really like psycological thriller/horror stores/games...

Then again, I might just be one of these (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NightmareFetishist) by nature. It would certainly explain my signature...

Also, for a bit of a changup, here is a nifty game (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/541124) with nicely unsettling bits, especially near the end! Wooo!