Expanded Sublime way??

[Dusk Eclipse]

I have seen a great deal of ToB homebrew, from base classes to prestige class and even complete disciplines, yet I haven't seen one homebrew that expanded on the.."canon" disciplines.

Can someone please tell me I am wrong in believing there is no homebrew attempts to expand them?

[Temotei]

I have seen a great deal of ToB homebrew, from base classes to prestige class and even complete disciplines, yet I haven't seen one homebrew that expanded on the.."canon" disciplines.

Can someone please tell me I am wrong in believing there is no homebrew attempts to expand them?

Here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7793706&postcount=1) and here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7009374&postcount=1).

I'm sure there are a few more examples (including a recent remake of the stone dragon discipline), but...yeah. Those were easy to find for me, both being on the big list I made for Phoenix not too long ago.

[playswithfire]

There's this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9233697) revision to stone dragon and some epic maneuvers here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112383), though i think there are more of them somewhere

[Dusk Eclipse]

ohh thanks I didn't know. Though for the record I wasn't considereing the Re-do of Stone dragon for the purpose of my question

[Ziegander]

There are in fact A LOT more addons to the canon, in fact in a PDF somewhere (I might have it on my computer). Let me see if I can find a link and/or share the PDF.

[Dusk Eclipse]

hmm I should have done a search before posting the question....but my search-fu here is really bad.

I would appreciate the link to the PDF

[Ziegander]

Aha! Here it is!

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19528370/?pg=last

[DracoDei]

Check my complete list of homebrews... I created a stance and a strike for Tiger-claw... they are very specialty purpose, but wouldn't hurt to throw into most any campaign. There are also some for Devoted Spirit, but those require a specific other peice of slightly silly homebrew to be in effect (a third axis of alignment... Funky/Square).

[Temotei]

Here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7793706&postcount=1)


Check my complete list of homebrews... I created a stance and a strike for Tiger-claw... they are very specialty purpose, but wouldn't hurt to throw into most any campaign. There are also some for Devoted Spirit, but those require a specific other peice of slightly silly homebrew to be in effect (a third axis of alignment... Funky/Square).

I beat you to your own homebrew. :smallcool:

[DracoDei]

So you did, so you did. In my defense, your links were rather vague.

[Tael]

Probably because adding more maneuvers to existing discipline would both make the discipline more powerful, and at the same time be pretty unnecessary. The core 9 are pretty well made.

[Ashtagon]

I think adding more moves to the existing disciplines would remove their focus, and turn martial disciplines from being a set of specialisms into a wizard-style batman who does everything. I'd rather wizards were more focused in the way sublime way stuff is.

[bladesmith]

Aha! Here it is!

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19528370/?pg=last

None of the links seem to work anymore. Is there any other place I could get the .pdf's?

[Ziegander]

Alas, I searched high and low for anywhere else I could find the pdf's, but they were nowhere to be found.

Somewhat encouraging however is that the pdf's are for the most part merely compilations of others' works. So, if we could find the original works we would find the lion's share of the maneuvers...

I know The Demented One and ObsidianJaerc were among the top contributors...

[DragoonWraith]

Probably because adding more maneuvers to existing discipline would both make the discipline more powerful, and at the same time be pretty unnecessary. The core 9 are pretty well made.
This. I personally would avoid adding to any of the existing disciplines for exactly that reason.

[Dusk Eclipse]

I see, I was just wondering why though

[DragoonWraith]

Basically, because Tome of Battle is excellent and very tightly balanced. It's not something people want to disturb. For example, every discipline having only one 9th level maneuver is very intentional and rather important. Etc. Disciplines are balanced largely because they grant versatility without exploding it (as the Sor/Wiz spell list does).