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Charzy
2010-10-05, 11:00 PM
Okay here is a challenge of which I cannot find an answer.
Trying to make ranged an Elf with trapfinding, disable device, Volley attacks AND RANGED AoO's At least better than the Arrow Mind spell as in more reach, better than melee threat range .

So far i figured Ranger with the trap expert Alternative Class feature, and distracting attack ACF.
Or maybe dual-wielding a Repeating Light crossbow if its possibly to volley with that and a Kusari-gama, possibly.?

Not sure how to build this at all, so i ask for help.
No flaws or traits
All 3.5 books otherwise
Ravenloft Campaign Setting

Eldariel
2010-10-05, 11:21 PM
Trivial. Ranger with Trap Expert [Dungeonscape] gets Trapfinding & Disable Device/Search. Just one level is enough; you can buy the ranks cross-class for the rest of your career if necessary. Ranged AoOs you can either gain from Peerless Archer [Silver Marches] or Ranged Threat [DR350]. Fire Elf has an Int-bonus and thus would serve well with the skill requirements placed here. The rest is just standard volley archery boosting:
- Ranged Weapon Mastery [Player's Handbook II] (requires Pious Templar [Complete Divine] or Fighter 4 for Weapon Specialization)
- Knowledge Devotion [Complete Champion] (requires skill points + Education [Player's Guide to Faerun] or Eternal Blade [Tome of Battle])
- Whirling Frenzy Barbarian [SRD]
- Arrow Storm from Targetteer Fighter [DR325]
- Maneuvers such as Dancing Mongoose, Ranging Mongoose & Time Stands Still [Tome of Battle]

And stuff that improves range increments (Deepwood Sniper [Masters of the Wild]/Cragtop Archer [Races of Stone]), grants bonuses (Wildrunner [Races of the Wild], Order of the Bow Initiate [Sword & Fist - Complete Warrior-version is a trap]) or is just generally useful. And obviously Rapid Shot and all that.

As such, you have the choice of either stacking non-ToB boosts to Str, Dex & archery, or picking most levels in initiator classes to get maneuvers for extra attacks.


Really, the specifics are up to you. There are many ways to go about it. You could, of course, just use lots of magic too and be a Cleric 20 with Planar Touchstone: Catalogues of Enlightenment to pick up Kobold Domain granted power (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060420a), with DMM: Persist and all the good jazz. Or Archivist doing the same with Ranger-spells to boot.

gorfnab
2010-10-06, 12:13 AM
A Swift Hunter (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=103.0) build can easily accomplish what your looking for. Scout covers the Trapfinding and Disable Device (added in as a class skill in the errata). Volleys with Manyshot/Greater. Can threaten with Arrow Mind, Ranged Threat, or Elvencraft Bow.

1. Scout - Point Blank Shot
2. Scout
3. Scout - Precise Shot
4. Ranger - Arcane Hunter ACF, B: Track
5. Scout - B: Swift hunter
6. Scout - Nemesis, Darkstalker , or *Combat Reflexes
7. Ranger - B: Rapid Shot
8. Ranger - B: Endurance
9. Ranger - Distracting Attack ACF, Sword of the Arcane Order or *Ranged Threat
10. Ranger
11. Ranger - B: Manyshot
12. Ranger - Greater Manyshot
13. Ranger
14. Ranger - Spell Reflection ACF
15. Ranger - Practiced Spellcaster
16. Ranger - B: Improved Precise Shot
17. Ranger
18. Ranger - Improved Skirmish
19. Ranger
20. Ranger

For a bow look into Elvencraft (RotW), Serren Wood (BoED), Splitting (CoR) Force (MIC) +X Mighty +X Composite Longbow. If you want better spellcasting look into the Mystic Ranger Variant from Dragon #336. It would affect your build by moving the Ranger bonus feats one level later and you would loose Distracting Attack since Mystic Ranger gives up the Animal Companion but it would get you 5th level spells in 10 levels of Ranger (works great with Sword of the Arcane Order).

Ruinix
2010-10-06, 12:46 PM
A Swift Hunter (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=103.0) build can easily accomplish what your looking for. Scout covers the Trapfinding and Disable Device (added in as a class skill in the errata). Volleys with Manyshot/Greater. Can threaten with Arrow Mind, Ranged Threat, or Elvencraft Bow.

1. Scout - Point Blank Shot
2. Scout
3. Scout - Precise Shot
4. Ranger - Arcane Hunter ACF, B: Track
5. Scout - B: Swift hunter
6. Scout - Nemesis, Darkstalker , or *Combat Reflexes
7. Ranger - B: Rapid Shot
8. Ranger - B: Endurance
9. Ranger - Distracting Attack ACF, Sword of the Arcane Order or *Ranged Threat
10. Ranger
11. Ranger - B: Manyshot
12. Ranger - Greater Manyshot
13. Ranger
14. Ranger - Spell Reflection ACF
15. Ranger - Practiced Spellcaster
16. Ranger - B: Improved Precise Shot
17. Ranger
18. Ranger - Improved Skirmish
19. Ranger
20. Ranger

For a bow look into Elvencraft (RotW), Serren Wood (BoED), Splitting (CoR) +X Mighty +X Composite Longbow. If you want better spellcasting look into the Mystic Ranger Variant from Dragon #336. It would affect your build by moving the Ranger bonus feats one level later and you would loose Distracting Attack since Mystic Ranger gives up the Animal Companion but it would get you 5th level spells in 10 levels of Ranger (works great with Sword of the Arcane Order).

i will go with this but some changes.

race human
lev 1 take abble learner
for lev2 take cloisted cleric. knowlege devotion for free and swap travel domain for travel devotion. how u have full Sk volleys.

lev 6 screw the nemeisis and put in Dead Eye from Dragon Compendium vol 1 pag 95. google the errata for BAB 1 as req. instead of BAB 14 ¬¬

screw the many shots feats. u have full attacks with Sk attacks.

from lev 7 and foward, take some PrC for flaver or Paladin Ranged Smite variant, is in DR, or if ur dm don't allow DR material, take regular paladin and take the ranged smite feat from BoED.
lev 9 feat devoted tracker.

it will:

race human

1. Scout - Point Blank Shot, Able lerner
2. Closited Cleric. travel domain for travel devotion
3. Scout - Precise Shot
4. Ranger - Arcane Hunter ACF, B: Track
5. Scout - B: Swift hunter
6. Scout - Dead Eye (DrC vol.1)
7. Ranger - B: Rapid Shot
8. Paladin - Variant Ranged smite - Devoted Tracker.
9. Ranger - Ranged Threat
10. Paladin
11. Ranger - B: Manyshot
12. Ranger - Improved Skirmish