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appending_doom
2010-10-17, 09:04 AM
So, does a shadowdancer's hide in plain sight ability work against creatures who can See in Darkness?

Yuki Akuma
2010-10-17, 09:06 AM
You can only hide if you have concealment. HiPS just lets you hide while people are looking at you.

No.

Greenish
2010-10-17, 09:09 AM
You can only hide if you have concealment. HiPS just lets you hide while people are looking at you.Shadowdancer HiPS lets you hide without Concealment.

As long as there's a shadow within 10', you can hide, even if the enemies have Darkvision. (With the better version of HiPS: the poorer one, such as that of the ranger, only allows you to hide while being looked at.)

Yuki Akuma
2010-10-17, 09:12 AM
Hide in Plain Sight (Su)
A shadowdancer can use the Hide skill even while being observed. As long as she is within 10 feet of some sort of shadow, a shadowdancer can hide herself from view in the open without anything to actually hide behind. She cannot, however, hide in her own shadow.

Nothing about not needing concealment in there, buddy. Nor does it mention darkvision.

ToySoldierCPlus
2010-10-17, 09:16 AM
Hide in Plain Sight (Su)

A shadowdancer can use the Hide skill even while being observed. As long as she is within 10 feet of some sort of shadow, a shadowdancer can hide herself from view in the open without anything to actually hide behind. She cannot, however, hide in her own shadow.

Emphasis mine. The shadowdancer's ability allows them to hide anytime they are within ten feet of a shadow other than their own. They do not need concealment of any kind.

RebelRogue
2010-10-17, 09:47 AM
Things you 'hide behind' sounds like cover rather than concealment.

FelixG
2010-10-17, 09:50 AM
Things you 'hide behind' sounds like cover rather than concealment.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/hide.htm

Cover OR concealment is needed, they are interchangeable.

awa
2010-10-17, 09:58 AM
they only need to be within 10 feet of shadow they don't even need to be in the shadow so i think its pretty clear that seeing through the shadow their not even standing in does not help