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Kobold-Bard
2010-10-18, 12:33 AM
Compassionate Mage

Whether it is simple altruism, because healing fetches a higher price, the desire for self preservation or anything inbetween, you have learned the skills that allow you to shape arcane energy into restorative power.

By barring yourself from two other Conjuration subschools (Calling, Creation, Summoning or Teleportation) you may add all Conjuration [Healing] spells to your class list. This doesn't add them to your spellbook/spells known, it simply allows you to learn them from now on.

Generally this Feature would be taken at first level, but at the DM's discretion it may take effect later, usually due to an event that had a particularly profound effect on the character. If this is the case you may partake in a one-time 24 hour ritual that changes any spells of your now barred subschools in your spellbook or spells known for spells of the Healing subschool. You may eat & drink etc. during the ritual, but you may not take any other actions, and after it is completed your mind is considered fresh and ready to prepare spells/spell slots for the day.

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Thoughts?

AugustNights
2010-10-18, 06:01 AM
I like the concept, but I'm curious, how does this work with a Conjurer Specialist? Does the Conjurer lose access two three schools? I suppose between transmutation and conjuration the wizard could a potent summoner/buffer, but with the lack of three schools, well it begins to feel more like a Specific Class and less of a Wizard mod. (I reckon a non-specialist wizard could be built, but who plays non-specialist wizards?)

Edit Ah... it seems I misread. Seems legit to me.

Kobold-Bard
2010-10-18, 06:16 AM
I like the concept, but I'm curious, how does this work with a Conjurer Specialist? Does the Conjurer lose access two three schools? I suppose between transmutation and conjuration the wizard could a potent summoner/buffer, but with the lack of three schools, well it begins to feel more like a Specific Class and less of a Wizard mod. (I reckon a non-specialist wizard could be built, but who plays non-specialist wizards?)

If you're taking this I'd assume you won't be aiming for Maser Specialist because you're losing ~1/2 of the Conjuration spells, pretty well gimping yourself with that specific PrC. It wouldn't affect any other rules though, so yes a Conjuration MS would still lose 3 other schools.

I play non-specialists, it's why I made the Master Generalist (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7764043#post7764043).

Kuma Kode
2010-10-18, 06:17 AM
Subschools, not schools. You don't lose Necromancy or Evocation, you lose Conjuration (Teleportation) and Conjuration (Creation), for instance.

Kobold-Bard
2010-10-18, 09:57 AM
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Edit Ah... it seems I misread. Seems legit to me.

Glad you think so :smallsmile:

Nero24200
2010-10-18, 04:55 PM
Sounds pretty reasonable to me. Though, I've never really understood why wizards/sorcerers never got access to healing spells anyway (especially since other arcane casters like the Bard can).

Kobold-Bard
2010-10-18, 04:59 PM
Sounds pretty reasonable to me. Though, I've never really understood why wizards/sorcerers never got access to healing spells anyway (especially since other arcane casters like the Bard can).

Cheers.

Legacy mostly; in 1 & 2ed Clerics healed and Wizards blew stuff up, and the designers wanted to keep it that way.

For more info (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172395).

Benly
2010-10-18, 07:07 PM
Although I think balancing around Shadowcraft Mages is a terrible idea, I still have to say: this is fantastic for Shadowcraft Mages.

Kobold-Bard
2010-10-19, 04:50 PM
Although I think balancing around Shadowcraft Mages is a terrible idea, I still have to say: this is fantastic for Shadowcraft Mages.

This is very true. Though since the Shadowcraft Mage just shouldn't exist, hopefully you will forgive me of this fact :smallamused:

Lix Lorn
2010-10-20, 04:22 AM
I did something like this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9447750#post9447750)a month or so back. Great minds think alike. :)

Kobold-Bard
2010-10-20, 05:57 AM
I did something like this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9447750#post9447750)a month or so back. Great minds think alike. :)

Indeed they do :smallamused:

Or, more likely, I probably saw yours, forgot it, then made mine. Originally I was going to make them give up a school too, but decided this was way better since you're only gaining a subschool so should only give up subschools.

So thanks for either the compliment or the inspiration (or both) :smallbiggrin:

Southern Cross
2010-11-06, 03:45 AM
I'm working out a feat that would enable casters to add a Conjuration subschool (excepting the Summoning subschool) to another school of magic : i.e. it could switch the Conjuration(Creation) subschool to the Evocation school. Anybody else interested?