Chicken/Dire Chicken Stats (Help please?)

[DrewVolker]

Hello people, I need some help here.
I cant find chicken or dire chicken stats in any book I have (book or pdf), I need them cause I plan on playing a Farmer (Homebrew class that has an animal companion) and the animal companion will be a chicken. (Woot for chicken ac's!).

So yeah, thanks for the help in advance.

(The reason this is in the homebrew section is cause I dont care if the stats are offical or homebrew, aslong as they work. Thanks again)

[LOTRfan]

Use raven stats. Get rid of flight speed, change regular speed to 35.

For dire animal, add four hit die, add to one natural armor, +4 strength, +2 con, +4 charisma (I got this from comparing Dire Wolf to Wolf stats).

[teslas]

I'd take the Raven (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/raven.htm) and modify it slightly.

My personal opinions on a chicken:

Chickens probably have 2 strength as opposed to a Raven's 1. Large roosters might have as much as 3.
Chickens probably have less than 15 DEX. 13 or so seems right. They are not a graceful animal.
Chickens might have 11 CON instead of 10. Prize roosters may have 12. No higher.
Chickens have 1 int. They are a very, very stupid bird.
Chickens probably have 12 WIS. They are animals, but they are very dumb and unobservant ones. You could argue that they should have less.
CHA 6 as normal.

Very, very few chickens can actually fly. I've only seen one in my life and it was a scrawny, nasty little hen. It would have, at best, a clumsy fly speed of 30' and could only sustain it for less than 6 seconds at a time. They can actually move pretty quickly. 20' movement is about right. I'd give most bipedal birds the Run feat for free as a DM.

I'd give them a +5 racial bonus to their jump due to being able to flutter their wings into semi-flight, though. I'd also probably have a special case where they can use their dexterity score in place of strength for jump, climb, and swim, etc similar to what rats have.

I would not give them alertness. Weapon Finesse and low-light vision seem applicable, however.


Also. Wow. We're statting out chickens. I need a new hobby.

edit-
I was thinking fiendish, not dire. Removed that part.

Applying the Dire template to an animal is conditional. The differences between a Wolf and Dire Wolf are a lot less than the differences between a Rat and a Dire Rat.

And remember: adding 4 HD to a 1/4 HD creature only makes it HD: 1. You don't get ability sore increases or feats or anything like that.

Applying the Dire template will raise a creature's strength by a little to a lot. The precedent appears to be that it is raised to a level to where the animal is actually threatening if it wasn't before. So in our case probably 10 STR for this bad-ass giant chicken.

It will (almost) always improve their constitution and charisma by 2 to 4. Peculiarly, it seems to lower their INT sometimes. Wisdom remains unaffected. Dexterity does not always rise, but for a chicken I'd assume that it would being their primary stat.

[LOTRfan]

Also. Wow. We're statting out chickens. I need a new hobby.

Yes, yes we do. :smalltongue:

[Bhu]

Dire Chicken
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6397729&postcount=720

Space Chicken
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6329439&postcount=700

Chicken Lord
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5572965&postcount=444

[LOTRfan]

I should've known. :smallsmile:

[The Vorpal Tribble]

Gamecock (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2519985&postcount=3)

Coalblack **** (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131252)

Spitfire Cockerel (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11033)

[DracoDei]

Not to mention someone probably did a baseline chicken for the thread with "She Who Clucks" in it.

[Bhu]

Not to mention someone probably did a baseline chicken for the thread with "She Who Clucks" in it.

Where is this thread?

[Debihuman]

I worked on the She Who Clucks thread. There was also the Chicken Challenge on the Wizards of the Coast site that had a lot of great entries.

She Who Clucks thread is here: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92025.

Here are my stats for the Dire Fighting Chicken and the Fiendish Dire Fighting Chicken: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5002357&postcount=11 FYI, this is also now linked in my signature.

Debby

[Bhu]

You should also do a search for the Barngod PrC.

[absolmorph]

Dire Chicken
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6397729&postcount=720

Space Chicken
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6329439&postcount=700

Chicken Lord
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5572965&postcount=444
I love you.

[Morph Bark]

You should also do a search for the Barngod PrC.

You rang?

Chicken (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9317780&postcount=10) stats.

Chicken Master (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9327762) PrC.

Barngod (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170098) PrC.

[The Vorpal Tribble]

You rang?

Chicken (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9317780&postcount=10) stats.
"These dull brown birds are about 1 foot tall"

Now, as a bird fancier as well as poultry raiser of many years, I'm gonna go all fanboy on you :smallwink:

Not only are only are they rarely brown, but only banties are 1 foot tall. I'd say those are almost in the diminutive category then, not often weighing more than a pound, two perhaps if bred for eating like cornish game hens.

[hamishspence]

I don't think bird-type creatures follow the weight guidelines. They might even bend the length guidelines a bit.

A two ft long Raven with a 4 ft wide wingspan is considered Tiny. But I'm not sure if a real Raven would weigh 1 lb, or be 1 ft tall in height.

Rocs are Gargantuan birds in the MM- but (nose to base of tail)- they are less than the minimum for gargantuan- 30 ft. I don't know if birds automatically counts as bipeds for length guidelines though.

A roc's weight is 8000 lb- the normal minimum for Gargantuan is 16 tons. Definitely much lower than the expected weight.

[The Vorpal Tribble]

Well, if you wanna go that route chickens can vary in size practically as much as a chihuahua is from a St. Bernard :smallwink:

Serama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serama) and Sebrights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebright) can fit in the palm of your hand full-grown.

Then you have the Jersey Giants (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_Giant) and Cochins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochin_%28chicken%29) which can be larger and heavier than smaller dogs. Had a cochin myself that was 24 lbs.

And the Saipan Junglefowl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saipan_Jungle_Fowl) which though thin, can grow up to 3 feet tall.


Maybe need to have bantams, chickens, and then riding chickens.

[Morph Bark]

I admit to being incredibly ignorant of what variety of chickens there might be due to having only been in contact with brown ones of roughly a foot tall (maybe more, I was half my current age then). The only other ones I've seen on television have only marginally moved away from that stereotype, mostly in colour (white, black or grey at rare times, but still mostly brown).

[The Vorpal Tribble]

I admit to being incredibly ignorant of what variety of chickens there might be due to having only been in contact with brown ones of roughly a foot tall (maybe more, I was half my current age then). The only other ones I've seen on television have only marginally moved away from that stereotype, mostly in colour (white, black or grey at rare times, but still mostly brown).
I literally was raised a few miles from the poultry capital of the world, Gainesville, Georgia (USA). More chickens per acre than anywhere in the world.

Mostly commercial whites, but also have about every breed in the world around about in yards or wild.

Some chicken breeds, believe it or not, can be as pretty as parrots. Others are just weird.

The Phoenix of Japan (http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/animals/assets/phoenix_golden_duckwing.jpg) have up to 20 foot long tails, Transylvanian Naked Necks (http://www.mgegodollo.hu/WEBSET_PICTURES/526/01%20(20).jpg) have just that, Silkies (http://users.ameritech.net/rasillon/Twix.jpg) have black skin, 3 extra toes, and no actual 'feathers' but are instead pure fluff, Frizzles (http://stephengreenarmytage.com/images/catalog/8.jpg) literally grow their feathers upside down, and Auracanas (http://www.inspirationline.com/images/arau.jpg) don't have tails but grow giant ear feathers.
What's especially cool about the latter is they are also known as the Easter Egg chicken. Have a gene that causes them to lay green and blue eggs. Had one of those myself that laid pink eggs with purple specks. Kid you not.

And now you know a little something more :smallamused:

[Debihuman]

I knew there were a lot of varieties of chickens but I hadn't heard of some of those breeds. Thanks VT.

Chocobos work well for riding chickens. There were stats for them as "Riding Birds" and "Black Riding Birds" in Dragon Magazine for them (Sept. 2004 issue 323 page 31). Jonathan Drain posted a chocbo for 3.5 here: http://www.d20source.com/2005/12/final-fantasy-chocobo.

Debby

[blueblade]

This. This thread right here is why the gitp forums are the greatest homebrew forums on the interwebs. And the nicest to boot!

[The Vorpal Tribble]

I knew there were a lot of varieties of chickens but I hadn't heard of some of those breeds.
Yeah, there are hundreds. Sultans and cochins are my favorite. Very sweet personalities. Hate naked-necks though. Everyone of them was evil incarnate. The worst one we called 'the assassin' because he would literally dart from tree to tree like some commando, and then silently fly into the branches. You pass under he'd drop down and go for the eyes.

I made money as a kid by saving up and buying a shipment of exotic breed chicks around Easter (big-time hatchery nearby) and they'd mail them to me. Would make a deal with local feed stores to sell the chicks there so they could sell their chick starter feeds.


This. This thread right here is why the gittp forums are the greatest homebrew forums on the interwebs.
Better believe it

[Dire Reverend]

Upon reading this thread, I immediately thought of the Legend of Zelda games and their chickens.

[Bhu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2njqzx-clto&feature=related

someone tell me this is unusual

[The Vorpal Tribble]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2njqzx-clto&feature=related

someone tell me this is unusual
I'm pretty sure the person just stuck them in there to be funny. The hen is obviously very mild-mannered, but she is acting in a distinctively, "...the hell?" kinda way.

On really really cold nights I'd find chickens and cats (and opposums) all in one big heap keeping warm, so they can get along just fine if needbe.

[Bhu]

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7485352&postcount=1029

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5227898&postcount=373

forgot these two

[DrewVolker]

Wow people.. I must say, when I posted this question, I never even began to imagine how helpfull you all would be. It make me happy to know there is such a great online gaming community to help me out when I need it :P

Anyway, thank you ALL for EVERYTHING you posted, My question has been truely answered in every way possible.

Bob The Farmer (My character) Thanks you, and so does his animal companion chicken (Francis).

[Thugorp]

Could you post the. "farmer," class stats? If not, could you p.m. them to me?

[Bhu]

I think we're all a lil curious actually...