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Cogidubnus
2010-10-29, 05:15 AM
Have any other colour blind people found red-green or blue-purple text in class guides really hard to read? I'm quite badly colourblind so it may not be many others.

Zeta Kai
2010-10-29, 05:39 AM
There are various methods of changing your monitor's display to B&W (http://www.computing.net/answers/hardware/change-color-monitor-display-to-bw/42388.html). You should try those. As difficult as your plight may be, this isn't exactly under the purview of the mods/admins.

Dallas-Dakota
2010-10-29, 07:33 AM
Actually the rules about this:


Excessively Embellished Formatting
This refers to using different colors for different words, using formatting to be rude or appear smarter than someone or generally going overboard with formatting. It's not using bold, underline, paragraphs and lists to make your post look nice and be easy to read. If your post looks like this one overall, you're fine. But if your post has sentences that look like this one, you're not.

So it is good to ask, and under the jurisdiction of the mods.
It's obviously been around for some time, but the question is is it considered excessive formatting. *waits for a mod to come and give official answer*

Zeta Kai
2010-10-29, 09:43 AM
That issue is not really related to the one the OP mentioned. The formatting discussed here is a matter of Color-Coding For Your Convenience, which the OP says is hard for him to read. It's not clear if the he means that the colors are indiscernable with his condition, or that the text is made nigh-illegible due to the colors chosen, but I'm guessing that it is the latter. The collor-coding for build guides is fairly standard, & is used somewhat consistently, both here & on other forums. Therefore, it's not a issue of the formatting being excessive, but simply difficult for some disabled (?) people to use.

Either way, highlighting the text or switching to a B&W display should take care of the problem.

NerfTW
2010-10-29, 01:10 PM
There's no need to switch the monitor display to black and white.

You can go into options/content/fonts and colors* in your web browser, and uncheck "allow site to choose it's own fonts and colors", then switch it back on when you're done. Doing so will set everything to whatever you have selected as the default.


*Your exact path may vary, but that's the gist of where to look

Keld Denar
2010-10-29, 03:31 PM
He's talking about things like this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8711233#post8711233). Handbooks and guides with color coding. The formatting is old, possibly older than this forum, back from the OLD WotC boards that doen't exist any more except in the hearts and minds of those of us who were active back then.

You can still read it in a grey scale format, or if you set the brouser to all black, but then you lose out on the rating system. One of the joys of it is flipping through the guide when you are making a character and picking out the green and blue "best" feats and seeing how they line up with your build concept. I also doubt that guide makers will change, especially considering how much work it would be to go back and remove all of the color formatting without losing the hyperlinks or other formatting. Hopefully you find something that works out well for you, though, since the guides are definitely a wealth of knowledge!

Dire Reverend
2010-10-31, 11:54 AM
He's talking about things like this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8711233#post8711233)You can still read it in a grey scale format, or if you set the brouser to all black, but then you lose out on the rating system. One of the joys of it is flipping through the guide when you are making a character and picking out the green and blue "best" feats and seeing how they line up with your build concept. I also doubt that guide makers will change, especially considering how much work it would be to go back and remove all of the color formatting without losing the hyperlinks or other formatting. Hopefully you find something that works out well for you, though, since the guides are definitely a wealth of knowledge!

Yes, but most guides that have abilities with low ratings usually say after their color "This is bad, and this is why".

Drolyt
2010-10-31, 03:56 PM
Yes, but most guides that have abilities with low ratings usually say after their color "This is bad, and this is why".
Not all of them do though. Unfortunately for the op, there isn't really anything to be done about it. Is there a way to tell the browser to replace one color with another so that the op could change colors he doesn't recognize to ones he can?

NerfTW
2010-10-31, 05:00 PM
There is very likely an add on for Firefox that does just that. I'd suggest a google search for "web browsing tools for the colorblind"

Eloel
2010-11-02, 01:10 AM
Quoting (pushing the Quote button) on the guide gets you the full formatted text. You can then use Ctrl+F to find whatever colored stuff you want to find. (Like, if you want to find Blue stuff [usually the "good" feats/abilities], you search for Blue with your browsers' built-in searcher.)

Sure, it is a bit of an effort, but there really isn't much else to do there.

A longer variant would be quoting it, copying it into a word processor like MS Word, using the "replace" function to replace all different colors with colors you actually can see, put it into a new post somewhere on the forums, and preview that post. Ta-daa, colored to your convenience.

NerfTW
2010-11-02, 10:24 AM
Sure, it is a bit of an effort, but there really isn't much else to do there.


Given that this thread has several suggestions, I'd say there are plenty of things to do about it.

Here, I even did the google search for him
firefox extensions color blind (http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=firefox+extensions+color+blind&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=b7b968c575c3858f)