herrhauptmann
2010-10-30, 03:18 PM
Well everyone knows how Ur-priest is a fairly powerful divine PrC, particularly if combined with another class that advances divine casting and something else.
Like the mystic theurge which advances divine and arcane, though there's also options for what, invocations/arcane, invocations/divine, arcane/psi?
There's also the adaptation section of the Ur-Priest which states that it can be used for people who have been cut off from the deities, or worship deceased/inactive deities like Baal and Amaunator in Forgotten Realms.
Last night, I started working on a rather unusual character idea. A character who worships Amaunator enters into Ur-Priest, then after 2 levels or so enters into Sunmaster (lost empires of faerun).
Obviously I came upon a number of problems. Among them, the large number of skills I needed for each: Knowledge skills: Religion 8, Arcana 5, History 8, Geography 4, Planes 5, as well as Spellcraft 8, and Bluff 6.
3 feats. Sunmaster requires Servant of the fallen, while Ur priest requires Iron Will and Spell focus (evil).
The problem is some of the other aspects. Urpriest requires an evil character, though in this case I think refluffing it to a lawful character, with spell focus(law) would be appropriate. [Amaunator is a LN judge type].
Sunmaster however, requires 2 domains, something which UrPriest does not grant.
Currently the character is at level 6, with cloistered cleric 1 (for skills and domains), and wiz 3, ftr 1, rogue 1 (for bluff). Entering into Ur priest means that I lose access to my cleric casting, which is fine since the other 5 levels still boost my Ur Priest CL. But does that immediately deny me entry into Sunmaster? Because I'm not sure if I'd still count as having access to my domains.
Other questions, does anyone have suggestions I could ask the DM for? Different interpretations, alterations of PrC's? Like taking Heretic of the Faith: Risen Sun (lathander will be reborn as amaunator), instead of servant of the fallen:Amaunator, for entry into the Sunmaster?
Although now that I look at the epic cleric in Power of Faerun, he's a sunmaster 10, but has heretic of the faith instead of servant of the fallen.
I could circumvent a lot of this by just playing a Cleric, perhaps a few levels of RSoL, then convert to the heresy around level 9 or 12, and start taking Sunmaster then. (The capstone ability of sunform doesn't really seem all that interesting to me...)
Oh yes, at this point, my only cross class skills are survival, martial lore, and psicraft. And I've got able learner, so even then, I buy them at 1 for 1.
Like the mystic theurge which advances divine and arcane, though there's also options for what, invocations/arcane, invocations/divine, arcane/psi?
There's also the adaptation section of the Ur-Priest which states that it can be used for people who have been cut off from the deities, or worship deceased/inactive deities like Baal and Amaunator in Forgotten Realms.
Last night, I started working on a rather unusual character idea. A character who worships Amaunator enters into Ur-Priest, then after 2 levels or so enters into Sunmaster (lost empires of faerun).
Obviously I came upon a number of problems. Among them, the large number of skills I needed for each: Knowledge skills: Religion 8, Arcana 5, History 8, Geography 4, Planes 5, as well as Spellcraft 8, and Bluff 6.
3 feats. Sunmaster requires Servant of the fallen, while Ur priest requires Iron Will and Spell focus (evil).
The problem is some of the other aspects. Urpriest requires an evil character, though in this case I think refluffing it to a lawful character, with spell focus(law) would be appropriate. [Amaunator is a LN judge type].
Sunmaster however, requires 2 domains, something which UrPriest does not grant.
Currently the character is at level 6, with cloistered cleric 1 (for skills and domains), and wiz 3, ftr 1, rogue 1 (for bluff). Entering into Ur priest means that I lose access to my cleric casting, which is fine since the other 5 levels still boost my Ur Priest CL. But does that immediately deny me entry into Sunmaster? Because I'm not sure if I'd still count as having access to my domains.
Other questions, does anyone have suggestions I could ask the DM for? Different interpretations, alterations of PrC's? Like taking Heretic of the Faith: Risen Sun (lathander will be reborn as amaunator), instead of servant of the fallen:Amaunator, for entry into the Sunmaster?
Although now that I look at the epic cleric in Power of Faerun, he's a sunmaster 10, but has heretic of the faith instead of servant of the fallen.
I could circumvent a lot of this by just playing a Cleric, perhaps a few levels of RSoL, then convert to the heresy around level 9 or 12, and start taking Sunmaster then. (The capstone ability of sunform doesn't really seem all that interesting to me...)
Oh yes, at this point, my only cross class skills are survival, martial lore, and psicraft. And I've got able learner, so even then, I buy them at 1 for 1.