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Moose Man
2010-11-07, 03:54 PM
why does the Xvart get a -2 LA??

awa
2010-11-07, 03:55 PM
my understanding is it does not that is a typo

Moose Man
2010-11-07, 04:05 PM
Excerpt from Dungeons & Dragons 3.5 Edition Index – Races:
Xvart
{table=head]Ability Mods|Favored Class|Racial Features

+2 Dex, –2 Str, –2 Con|Fighter|Small Size, 30’ Movement, Darkvision 60’, +2 Racial bonus on Move Silently checks, Humanoid (xvart), Speak with Animals (rats & bats only), 1/day. {Works with the Dire version of the indicated creatures}, and Level Adjustment –2[/table]

Urpriest
2010-11-07, 04:07 PM
It's a typo.

Last Laugh
2010-11-07, 04:20 PM
What should it be? I'm guessing +0, Even then it's very weak compared to other options (Whisper Gnome has most of that and more)

Urpriest
2010-11-07, 04:21 PM
I believe +0 is correct. If I remembered which Dragon it was in I could check it.

awa
2010-11-07, 04:22 PM
whisper gnome is over powered its a sad fact that there are a lot of races that are underpowered. but negative level adjustment is definitively not the answer

Eloel
2010-11-07, 04:22 PM
What should it be? I'm guessing +0, Even then it's very weak compared to other options (Whisper Gnome has most of that and more)
Not a valid comparison. Whisper Gnome is under-LA'd. I agree on the +0 LA being good though.

hamishspence
2010-11-07, 05:27 PM
it's in Dragon 339 (January 2006), and there, the sample Xvart has an LA of +0.

nedz
2010-11-07, 06:23 PM
why does the Xvart get a -2 LA??

You should read the Errata, ...


DnD3.5Index-Races.pdf October 1, 2007
Page 32:
Xvart (DR339 p64) Level Adjustment +2

and then the Errata about the Errata :smallbiggrin:

http://www.crystalkeep.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2280&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
Which is quite long - see the entry for 18 Feb 2010

HunterOfJello
2010-11-07, 06:53 PM
from the supplied errata of the errata:


XVARTS AS CHARACTERS
Xvart leaders tend to be fighters or fighter/clerics. Xvart clerics can choose two of the follow domains: Animal, Chaos, Evil, and Trickery. Xvart clerics can choose two of the following domains: Animal, chaos, evil, and Trickery. Xvart clerics prefer spells that summon rats and bats or create fire. Most xvart spellcasters are adepts and prefer bat or rat familiars.
Xvart characters possess the following racial traits.
-- -2 Strength, +2 Dexterity, -2 Charisma.
-- Small Size: +1 bonus to Armor Class, +1 bonus on attack rolls, +4 bonus on Hide checks, -4 penalty on grapple checks, lifting and carrying limits 3/4 those Medium characters.
-- A xvarts base land speed is 30 feet.
-- Darkvision out to 60 feet.
-- Special Qualities (see above): Speak with animals.
--Speak with Animals (sp): Once per day a xvart can use this ability to communicate with bats or rats (including dire forms of these creatures) for 1 minute as if using the speak with animals spell.
-- +2 Racial bonus on Move Silently checks.
-- Automatic Languages: Common, Goblin. Bonus Languages: Draconic, Elven, Giant, Gnoll, Orc.
-- Favored Class: Fighter.


with these stats Xvarts aren't bad as a +0 LA race. They aren't whisper gnomes, but they aren't half-elves either.