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Tael
2010-11-08, 05:39 PM
Are there any cheap ways? Preferably a constant effect, but it probably won't be necessary.

Psyren
2010-11-08, 05:40 PM
Get something with Undetectable Alignment on it.

Alternatively Personal Mind Blank, since it's so good you should be getting it anyway.

TheGeckoKing
2010-11-08, 05:41 PM
Not being evil? :smallamused:

Crossblade
2010-11-08, 05:41 PM
Play a Neutral or Good character

Edit: Dang, ninja'ed because the forum requires to wait 60sec between posts.

The-Mage-King
2010-11-08, 05:48 PM
Planar Motes. 500 gp for detecting as Not Evil for one month and 2d6 days.

Well, that's the Greater Version, which covers auras up to strong in power...

Lesser is 300, lasts 1 week+1d6 days, and covers moderate auras...

Siosilvar
2010-11-08, 05:48 PM
Ring of Mind Shielding (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/rings.htm#mindShielding)

8000gp. Core is awesome like that.

Tael
2010-11-08, 05:59 PM
Wow, a Ring of Undetectable Alignment is only like 400 gp (getting it made by a bard though, which would probably double the price to 800 or 1000). What a steal.

Coidzor
2010-11-08, 06:01 PM
Dip cleric/cloistered cleric and worship a LN or CN deity? You'll detect as an aura of law/chaos instead when the appropriate spells are used?

...I don't know if that would interact with the evil bit though, since the deity is neutral on that axis... But IIRC, the cleric detects only as a cleric of that deity to those sorts of spells.

Edit: Conversely, worship an acceptable LN w/ E leanings deity and use that as the explanation whenever it comes up.

randomhero00
2010-11-08, 06:06 PM
Yeah I agree with the others. Play neutral. Comes with almost all the perks of being evil and good.

John Campbell
2010-11-08, 06:10 PM
Whenever anyone starts casting detect evil, punch them.

Keld Denar
2010-11-08, 06:13 PM
Horizon Walker 6+ with the Planar(Aligned) mastery. You can pretty much ignore any ability with an alignment descripter. Blasphemy? Not a problem. Word of Chaos? You count as that too. Holy Word? Still no troubles. Dictum? I hardly knew 'um! Heck, you could even pick up a Concordant Killer's Concordant Greatsword and not suck down the 1-2 negative levels, regardless of your alignment. You emulate all of them and none of them all at once, whichever is most advantageous.

Renegade Paladin
2010-11-08, 06:15 PM
The Veil of Cyric feat.

AslanCross
2010-11-08, 06:18 PM
Belkar's method? The lead sheet? :D

Moglorosh
2010-11-08, 06:20 PM
A lead sheet (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0202.html), or barring that, a lawyer (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0228.html).

Jack_Simth
2010-11-08, 06:26 PM
Let's see...

Core:
Ring of Mind Shielding (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/rings.htm#mindShielding) (Absolute)
Amulet of Proof Against Detection and Location (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#amuletofProofagainstDetectionand Location) (Caster level check to get the truth)
Undetectable Alignment (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/undetectableAlignment.htm) (Absolute)
Mind Blank (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/mindBlank.htm) (Absolute)
Nondetection (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/nondetection.htm) (Caster level check DC based on caster level to get the truth)
Misdirection (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/misdirection.htm) (Will save to get the truth)

Keld Denar
2010-11-08, 06:30 PM
Oh, Occult Slayer4 gives you non-detection, and Occult Slayer5 gives you Mind Blank. Slayer6 gives you Cerebral Blind, which functions identically to Mind Blank. OS is in CWarrior and Slayer is in the SRD (psionic section, reprinted from the Expanded Psionics Handbook).

Seffbasilisk
2010-11-08, 06:35 PM
Svirfneblin have a racial ability against it.

cfalcon
2010-11-08, 06:41 PM
Svirfneblin have a racial ability against it.

Generally a good policy to assume all Svirfneblin are evil though :P

Aron Times
2010-11-08, 06:49 PM
Generally a good policy to assume all Svirfneblin gnomes are evil cannibals though :P

Fixed. :smallcool:

Coidzor
2010-11-08, 06:58 PM
But then if you weren't a gnome you'd be perfectly fine as far as being eaten goes.

And you'd know if you were a gnome cannibal....

cfalcon
2010-11-08, 07:19 PM
short pork?

FMArthur
2010-11-08, 08:19 PM
Carry an artifact with an overwhelming aura of evil that would make even a Good character flag as Evil. Easy excuse and possible synergy right there.

The Shadowmind
2010-11-08, 08:24 PM
Master of Masks makes you detect as whatever the alignment the mask is.

Dusk Eclipse
2010-11-08, 08:32 PM
There is a fat in Exemplars of Evils, that make you ping as neutral on the detect aligment spells... can't remember the pre-requisites or the name though.

Crafty Cultist
2010-11-08, 09:05 PM
There is a psionic power that lets you switch your aura with something else. I can't remember the specifics

megabyter5
2010-11-08, 09:32 PM
Whenever anyone starts casting detect evil, punch them.

If someone punched me for casting detect evil, I'd assume they were evil.

Crossblade
2010-11-08, 09:43 PM
Stab out the eyes of the person casting Detect Evil?

KillianHawkeye
2010-11-08, 10:01 PM
There is a fat in Exemplars of Evils, that make you ping as neutral on the detect aligment spells... can't remember the pre-requisites or the name though.

Mask of Gentility. It requires Cha 15 and 9 ranks of both Bluff and Disguise.


If someone punched me for casting detect evil, I'd assume they were evil.

Yeah, but you wouldn't know for sure, would ya? :smallwink::smallbiggrin:

Lhurgyof
2010-11-08, 10:03 PM
Murder the Paladin in his sleep? xD

Psyren
2010-11-08, 10:26 PM
There is a psionic power that lets you switch your aura with something else. I can't remember the specifics

That would be Aura Alteration (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/auraAlteration.htm)

Tvtyrant
2010-11-08, 10:33 PM
Just plate lead to the outside of your armor. Then your alignment is undetectable, and lead isn't poisonous in D&D.

Electrohydra
2010-11-08, 11:06 PM
Having +69 in bluff (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/skills.htm) That way even after being dispelled you still register as whatever you want.

Callista
2010-11-08, 11:22 PM
Just plate lead to the outside of your armor. Then your alignment is undetectable, and lead isn't poisonous in D&D.Yeah, if you want to be completely covered in plate mail at all times. Highly impractical. Also, heavy.

Coidzor
2010-11-08, 11:43 PM
Yeah, if you want to be completely covered in plate mail at all times. Highly impractical. Also, heavy.

Well, if you're already a dwarf fighter...

John Campbell
2010-11-09, 12:16 AM
If someone punched me for casting detect evil, I'd assume they were evil.

I just believe in privacy, unlike Big Brother the Paladin.

Amiel
2010-11-09, 02:25 AM
Would a plate of lead suffice also?


As for punching out the caster who casts detect evil, say your fist was possessed.

JonRG
2010-11-09, 02:39 AM
Having +69 in bluff (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/skills.htm) That way even after being dispelled you still register as whatever you want.

Shame that's Epic-only. My psion is at about +66 with full buffs.

JBento
2010-11-09, 09:51 AM
Dread Necromancer gets the spell you want at 1st level, lasting 24h.

Killer Angel
2010-11-09, 09:55 AM
Are there any cheap ways? Preferably a constant effect, but it probably won't be necessary.


Misdirection (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/misdirection.htm) (Will save to get the truth)

Combine Misdirection with Magic Aura (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/magicAura.htm)(choose a candle of invocation) and you'll appear of the alignment you need...

Cyrion
2010-11-09, 10:52 AM
You'll have to work out the fine points with you DM, but an alternative would be to have a spell with the Good descriptor cast on you.

If you read through the spell descriptions they'll occasionally say that having a spell with an alignment descriptor (I was reading one in the Spell Compendium the other night that was an Evil spell starting with S- I don't remember exactly what it was) makes you register as that alignment. So a good character with an Evil curse will register on Detect Evil. YMMV with your DM as far as whether registering as good will cover the evil. If nothing else you can sow confusion by saying it's a curse and you're actually good- here cast detect good on me and I'll show you...

Lev
2010-11-09, 10:57 AM
Quick Draw. sudden strike, drow poison scabbard, assume likeness.

Jarveiyan
2010-11-10, 05:24 AM
Stab out the eyes of the person casting Detect Evil?

Kill the person trying to kill me because I'm tired of evil people infiltrating our group.

As mentioned before Ring of Mind Shielding is pretty cheap out of core so GM's that are tired of very cheap self made extremely useful items can't veto it, and it protects against more than just alignment detection.