Arena Tournament, Round 96: Anisimovna & Lyir Torsis vs. Aguacatl & Die Tierhüter

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Arena Tournament, Round 96: Anisimovna & Lyir Torsis vs. Aguacatl & Die Tierhüter

Map:
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XP Award: 300 XP to each non-DQd member of winning team
GP Award: 300 GP to each non-DQd member of winning team

Anisimovna (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=234964) - candycorn
Lyir Torsis (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=235169) - Kyeudo
Aguacatl (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=179458) - Scorer
Die Tierhüter (http://www.coyotecode.net/profiler/view.php?id=8835) - Wildgeist


All Combatants, please roll initiative and declare any final purchases

Prior to the match start you may privately plan by spoiler or PM with your partner, but after the start any communications will need to be done in character inside the arena as rules allow.

[Scorer]

Reporting in

[roll0]

Still need to think purchases and strategy...

[Kyeudo]

Lyir has arrived.

Inititive:[roll0]

Purchases to come once I've gotten a decent chance to review my opponents.

[candycorn]

Reporting in.

Init: [roll0]

Purchase: Scroll (Enlarge Person) -Scribed -125g
Scroll: Investiture of the Spined Devil -150gp

Reserve right to further purchases.

@Kyeudo:This time around, I can enlarge you, if you like.

[Wildgeist]

Die Tierhüter Reporting In!!!!

Rolling Inittiative: [roll0]

Thinking Purchases and Startegy.

[Kyeudo]

@Candycorn

Considering that they are both summoning specialist druids, I'd need Combat Reflexes to really make use of that much reach in this fight. What we need is some good AoE effects, I'm thinking.

[Scorer]

I'll buy:

Acid flask 10gp x3=30gp
Entangle scroll 25gp x2=50gp
Produce Flame 25gp x3=75gp
------------------------
Total 155

Edit: All in one scroll


reserve to reactionary

[Wildgeist]

Make that two clerk!!!!

Acid flask 10gp x3=30gp
Entangle scroll 25gp x2=50gp
Produce Flame 25gp x3=75gp
------------------------
Total 155


reserve to reactionary :smallbiggrin:

[Scorer]

I see now why you wanted me to post first ¬¬¡

[Wildgeist]

What??? We went to the same store, ok!!! :smalltongue:

By the way... I'll also have it all in one scroll please!!! :smallwink:

[candycorn]

@Kyeudo:Even without Combat reflexes, greater reach gives you, Increased damage (from die type and str boost), and flexibility in positioning (you can attack from 20 feet away, so it's harder for them to block you with summons).

If you don't want enlarge, I won't do it, but anisimovna is limited in AoE effects. If it's not transmutation, it needs to be off a scroll, where spellgifted doesn't affect me. I've got an idea, though.

Would you prefer me locking the low strength one in place with Sticky Floor, or Obscuring Mist for hiding/concealment?

[Kyeudo]

@candycorn

If you want to Enlarge me, I won't object.

I would prefer Sticky Floor over Obscuring Mist. I never seem to get much out of concealment.

Should I be aggressive and rush to meet them or stay back? I'm thinking rush, so they can't get summons up so easily. I might get lucky with some Mark of Madness shots.


I will buy a masterwork breastplate.

[candycorn]

@Kyeudo:I'll memorize one, and hold it in reserve. Make the growth a surprise. That'll let me get my AC buffs up in round 1, which will let me join you faster.

I think I'll go with grease instead. Shorter duration, but if I time it right, I can hit the goblin with it, and, even if he passes reflex, he'll still be flat-footed for one of your attacks. Since his only defense is AC, that'll do as much as possible. I can possibly hit the other with a ray of clumsiness, or something, to soften him up for you. Then there's still my offense, and the backup scroll that I'll save for in case the precocious doesn't cast.

Purchase: Scroll of Grease -25gp.

[Kyeudo]

@Candycorn

Sounds like a plan. I'll rush them as fast as possible and see what comes of it.

I don't have any more purchases to make, so I think I'm ready to start.

[Scorer]

For reference...

Initiative Order

Scorer
Kyeudo
Candycorn
Wldgeist

If Candycorn has no more purchases, I can post first turn

[candycorn]

Well, I have no more gold, so I certainly hope I'm done with purchases!

Match Prep:Start in B14.

In hand: Scroll (Grease), Scroll (Investiture).

Spells memorized:Mage Hand x5

Reduce Person
Expeditious Retreat
Enlarge Person
Ray of Clumsiness

Investiture of the Spined Devil

@Kyeudo:I'm not going to be right with you (they have range touch attacks, good bonuses to hit, and I have low life), but I'll try to be in a position by end of round 3 to support. Shout if you're in a position where either enlarge or grease will really help, and I'll do what I can.

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 1st Turn


Ok, I'm carrying all my scrolls and splashes, which puts me on medium load.

Aguacatl starts in Y13 Holding Shield, A scroll in one hand, and a scroll in mouth.


AGUACATL
Free: Whisper "Follow me closely, I will cast entangle. You prepare Produce Flame"
Move: to Y7
Standard: Ready an Action

To cast Entangle from scroll if LoS.


TUNATL
Moves to: X7


End of Turn

STATS

Aguacatl started @ Y13
Aguacatl ended @ Y7
HP 5/5
AC 21 (10 +6 dex, +1 size, +2 armor, +2 shield) Touch 17 FF 15

99 Sling bullets left
(0 carried)

Hand 1 Wielding: Scroll (2x Entangle, 3x Produce Flame
Hand 2 Wielding: Shield
Mouth: Scroll Heat Metal

Spells Prepared:

L0 - Cure Minor wounds x3
L1 - Cure Light Wounds, Cure Light Wounds


No consumables used yet

Tunatl started @Z13
Tunatl ended @X7
HP 13/13
AC 16 (10 +2 dex, +4 natural armor) Touch 12 FF 14

No summons yet

[Kyeudo]

Lyir - Round 1

Starting:

Lyir begins in B13, wearing his new breastplate, carrying his glaive. He has his Rageclaws shaped.


Actions:

Double move to K10.


Stats:

HP: 13/13
AC: 17 (5 Armor, 2 Dex)

Soulmelds
Rageclaws

[candycorn]

Anisimovna, Round 1, Third to act

Refs/LOS:Swift: Activate Law Devotion (AC).
Standard: Cast Reduce Person
Move: From B14 to F11.

Hide:[roll0] (includes movement penalty)
MS: [roll1]

Done.

Stats:Location: F11, Hiding
HP: 4/4
AC: 21 (+2 Size, +6 Dex, +3 Profane), FF 15, Touch 21
In Hand: Scroll(investiture), Scroll(grease)

Spells Memorized:Mage Hand x5

Reduce Person
Expeditious Retreat
Enlarge Person
Ray of Clumsiness

Investiture of the Spined Devil

Effects Active: Law Devotion(AC) 1/10, Reduce Person 1/20

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 1

@Refs/LoS

Der Tierhüter starts @ Z13 with Shield in one hand and scroll in the other.

Der Tierhüter
Swift: Activate Law Devotion.
Move action: Move to Z07.
Free: Allocate LD to AC.


AnC @Z14 (Riding Dog)
Move action: Double move to Z06.


WiC @Y14 (Riding Dog)
Move action: Double move to Y06.




End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @Z13
Der Tierhuter Ended @Z07

AnC Started @Z14
AnC Ended @Z06

WiC Started @Y14
WiC Ended @Y06



HP 9/9
AC 21 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size +3 LD) T 14??? (not sure if LD stacks in touch...) FF 18


Travel Devotion: 0/10
Law Devotion: 1/10


Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 2nd Turn



AGUACATL
Standard: Ready an Action

To cast Entangle from scroll if LoS.


TUNATL
Waits there


End of Turn

STATS

Aguacatl started @ Y7
Aguacatl ended @ Y7
HP 5/5
AC 21 (10 +6 dex, +1 size, +2 armor, +2 shield) Touch 17 FF 15

99 Sling bullets left
(0 carried)

Hand 1 Wielding: Scroll (2x Entangle, 3x Produce Flame)
Hand 2 Wielding: Shield
Mouth: Scroll Heat Metal

Spells Prepared:

L0 - Cure Minor wounds x3
L1 - Cure Light Wounds, Cure Light Wounds


No consumables used yet

Tunatl started @X7
Tunatl ended @X7
HP 13/13
AC 16 (10 +2 dex, +4 natural armor) Touch 12 FF 14

No summons yet

[Kyeudo]

I'd like an LoS check before I go.

[Scorer]

I will be off this next week, I will be able to post again on saturday. Sorry for the inconvinience.

[Sallera]

Anisimovna:Reduce Person has a casting time of 1 round; please revise your turn.

Correction needed.

[candycorn]

@Refs:Amended turn:

Swift: Activate Law Devotion (AC).
5 foot step: From B14 to C13.
Full Round action: Cast Reduce Person

[Sallera]

Refs:Nyar.

Anisimovna:Lyir is in K10.

Lyir:Anisimovna is in C13.

Tierhüter:Aguacatl is in Y7. Tunatl is in X7.

Aguacatl:Tierhüter is in Z7. His dogs are in Z6 and Y6.

[Kyeudo]

Lyir - Round 2

Actions:

Move to Q9


Not done. Need a new LoS check.

Stats:

HP: 13/13
AC: 17 (5 Armor, 2 Dex)
Location: Q9

Soulmelds
Rageclaws

[Sallera]

Refs:Nyar.

Anisimovna:Lyir moves north and then east out of sight.

Lyir:Two riding dogs are in Z6 and Y6, and Tierhüter is in Z7, holding shield and scroll.

Tierhüter:Aguacatl is in Y7. Tunatl is in X7. Lyir is in Q9, wielding glaive.

Aguacatl:Tierhüter is in Z7. His dogs are in Z6 and Y6.

[Kyeudo]

Lyir - Round 2 Continued

Actions:

Move to T7. Swift action to invoke my Mark of Madness on Wildgeist. Will save DC 13 or be confused for one round.


Done. Wildgeist should check my action spoiler.

Stats:

HP: 13/13
AC: 19 (5 Armor, 2 Dex, 2 Cover)
Location: T7

Soulmelds
Rageclaws

[Sallera]

Aguacatl:Lyir triggers your readied action when he enters R8. Do you take it?

[Scorer]

@Lyir/Refs/LoS

My readied action triggers, and I cast Entangle centered on O8

Lyir Reflex Save DC 11? or is it 12?

[Wildgeist]

@Refs/Lyir:

Does that makes Lyir's Invokation illegal or I do have to do the Will save anyway???

[Sallera]

Aguacatl/Lyir/Tierhüter:Aguacatl, you can't see O8 from Y7, so you can't centre it there. Lyir, this happens when you enter R8; once the target location is fixed, you may revise your turn from that point.

[Scorer]

@refs
Hum, right LoE, forgot that. in case of this spell, how does it work? is T7 a valid center? if so, then it is...

[Sallera]

Aguacatl:Which corner of T7?

[Scorer]

@refs
I guess soil corners are also out of LoE...

In that case I choose the visible LoE of U6 soil corner.

[Sallera]

Aguacatl:U5/V6 or U6/V7?

[Scorer]

@refs
That would be U6xU7xV6xV7 +10 corner

[Sallera]

Refs:Nyar.

Anisimovna:No LoS.

Lyir:Two riding dogs are in Z6 and Y6. Tierhüter is in Z7. Aguacatl is in Y7, holding a scroll and shield with another scroll in her mouth, and fails to cast a spell. Tunatl is in X7.

Tierhüter:Aguacatl is in Y7. Tunatl is in X7. Lyir is in T7. Aguacatl's spell failed, so make your Will save.

Aguacatl:Your spell fizzles, as your mouth is full and you can't speak the verbal component. Lyir is in T7, wielding glaive. Tierhüter is in Z7. His dogs are in Z6 and Y6.

Anisimovna's turn.

[Wildgeist]

@ Refs:

Will Save: [roll0]
By the way... I'm Der Tierhüter in this round... :smallredface:

[candycorn]

Anisimovna, Round 2

Refs/LOS:
Cast Investiture of the spined devil
CL Check, DC 8: [roll0]

Not Done.

[candycorn]

Turn Continued:

Refs/LOS:Move to F11.

Done.

Stats:Location: F11, Hiding
HP: 4/4
AC: 21 (+2 Size, +6 Dex, +3 Profane), FF 15, Touch 21
In Hand: Scroll(investiture), Scroll(grease)

Spells Memorized:Mage Hand x5

Reduce Person
Expeditious Retreat
Enlarge Person
Ray of Clumsiness

Investiture of the Spined Devil

Effects Active: Law Devotion(AC) 2/10, Reduce Person 1/20 (came in at start of turn, as a full round spell)

[Kyeudo]

@refs/Aguacatl/Tierhuter

If I understand correctly, I need to succeed on a Reflex save against Aguacatl's entangle spell. Doesn't the selected corner also put Aguacatl, both riding dogs, and Tunatl inside the affected area, requiring them to save as well?
Reflex Save:[roll0]

[Kyeudo]

Lyir - Revised Round 2

Assuming the above is correct,
@LOS

Lyir heads due west instead of heading to T7 and invoking his Mark.


@Refs

Lyir moves to P8 and yells "An entangle spell is centered on U6/U7/V6/V7! They caught themselves in it! Come around from the south of the ziggurat!"


Stats:

HP: 13/13
AC: 17 (5 Armor, 2 Dex)
Location: P8

Soulmelds
Rageclaws

[Sallera]

Lyir:No, the spell failed due to Aguacatl's mouth being full, so your original turn is fine, unless Aguacatl's presence would change it.

[Kyeudo]

This is funny. I'm disapointed that my opponent was not able to cast a debuff spell on me. :smallamused:

Alright then, ignore that revised round. My actions will remain exactly as they were previously, including choice of Mark target.

[Wildgeist]

I'd like a LoS Check as well of clearence of what happens with Tierhüter in this round since he failed his will save.....

[Sallera]

Refs:Nyar.

Anisimovna:Lyir is in T7.

Lyir:Two riding dogs are in Z6 and Y6. Tierhüter is in Z7. Aguacatl is in Y7. Tunatl is in X7. Anisimovna is in F11.

Tierhüter:Aguacatl is in Y7. Tunatl is in X7. Lyir is in T7. You are confused (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/confusion.htm) for one round, and must... [roll0] ...attack the nearest creature. As per the roll I made below, since there are three of them, that would be the dog in Z6.

Aguacatl:Lyir is in T7, wielding glaive. Tierhüter is in Z7. His dogs are in Z6 and Y6.

[Sallera]

Refs:[roll0] - Y7, Y6, Z6

[Wildgeist]

@Refs/LoS

What would be my attack modifier since Tierhüter is holding a scroll and a shield respectively in each hand??? Don't know if it would be just my base attack or if there would be a penalty since none are weapons....

[Sallera]

Tierhüter:Since you aren't proficient in martial weapons for a shield bash, it looks like your default attack at this point would be an unarmed strike at +2.

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 1

@Refs/LoS

Confused Der Tierhüter attacks dog in Z6

Attack:[roll0]
Damage: [roll1]



End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @Z13
Der Tierhuter Ended @Z07

AnC Started @Z14
AnC Ended @Z06

WiC Started @Y14
WiC Ended @Y06



HP 9/9
AC 21 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size +3 LD) T 14??? (not sure if LD stacks in touch...) FF 18


Travel Devotion: 0/10
Law Devotion: 2/10


Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 3rd Turn (We're blue, not red Wildgeist :smallsmile:)



AGUACATL
Free: Drop Scroll in hand.
Free: Pass Mouth Scroll to hand
Standard: Cast from Scroll

Heat Metal on Lyir's armor (This time he's in range :smallbiggrin:)
Caster check DC4?
[roll0]

Free: Drop used scroll from hand
Move: Pick up the other scroll

TUNATL
Waits there


End of Turn

STATS

Aguacatl started @ Y7
Aguacatl ended @ Y7
HP 5/5
AC 21 (10 +6 dex, +1 size, +2 armor, +2 shield) Touch 17 FF 15

99 Sling bullets left
(0 carried)

Hand 1 Wielding: Scroll (1x Entangle, 3x Produce Flame [1x entangle used])
Hand 2 Wielding: Shield
Mouth: Nothing

Spells Prepared:

L0 - Cure Minor wounds x3
L1 - Cure Light Wounds, Cure Light Wounds


Scroll of heat metal used up.

Tunatl started @X7
Tunatl ended @X7
HP 13/13
AC 16 (10 +2 dex, +4 natural armor) Touch 12 FF 14

No summons yet

[Scorer]

@Lyir

You start feeling your armor warm...


Nothing to hold play

[hustlertwo]

Lyir perishes in a burst of ref lightning!

Anisimovna's turn.

[candycorn]

Well... This is... Suboptimal.

Wendy, Round 3:

Refs/LOS:Standard: Cast Expeditious Retreat.
Move: Put Scroll (Grease) away.
Free: 5 foot step to E12


Stats:Location: E12
HP: 4/4
AC: 21 (+2 Size, +6 Dex, +3 Profane), FF 15, Touch 21
In Hand: Scroll(investiture)

Spells Memorized:Mage Hand x5

Reduce Person
Expeditious Retreat
Enlarge Person
Ray of Clumsiness

Investiture of the Spined Devil

Effects Active: Law Devotion(AC) 3/10, Reduce Person 2/20 (came in at start of turn, as a full round spell), Expeditious Retreat 1/20

[Kyeudo]

Question: If I can show grounds for a rewind to before I was DQed, would that put me back in the game? Because if so:

@refs

Scorer cast Heat Metal on my armor, but I was not allowed a Will save to resist the spell. My armor is an attended object and so gets a saving throw.

[Sallera]

Lyir:As far as I know, DQs are based solely on lack of a response when one is expected. You did indeed receive a Will save, but as there were not yet any effects from the spell, that wouldn't be grounds for a rewind anyway.

[Kyeudo]

Can't blame me for trying. :smallsigh:

[Wildgeist]

@Candycorn

Did Wendy finished her turn or is waiting for LoS and turn completion???

[candycorn]

Oh, and provided no LOS was established, I'm done.

[Wildgeist]

Sorry for the delay... Unexpected busy weekend + Scorer's birthday. :smallredface:

Der Tierhüter Round 3

@Refs/LoS

Tierhüter
Swift: Activate Travel Devotion
Move: Double move to T07.


AnC @Z06
Move: Double Move to S09.


WiC @Y06
Move: Double Move to R08.





End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @Z07
Der Tierhuter Ended @T07

AnC Started @Z06
AnC Ended @S09

WiC Started @Y06
WiC Ended @R08



HP 9/9
AC 21 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size +3 LD) T 14??? (not sure if LD stacks in touch...) FF 18


Travel Devotion: 1/10
Law Devotion: 3/10


Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 4th Turn



AGUACATL
Standard: Cast Produce Flame from Scroll
Move: to T10

TUNATL
Move to R9


End of Turn

STATS

Aguacatl started @ Y7
Aguacatl ended @ T10
HP 5/5
AC 21 (10 +6 dex, +1 size, +2 armor, +2 shield) Touch 17 FF 15

99 Sling bullets left
(0 carried)

Hand 1 Wielding: Scroll (1x Entangle, 3x Produce Flame [1x entangle, 1x Produce Flame used])
Hand 2 Wielding: Shield
Mouth: Nothing

Spells Prepared:

L0 - Cure Minor wounds x3
L1 - Cure Light Wounds, Cure Light Wounds


Scroll of heat metal used up.

Produce Flame 1/10 Rounds

Tunatl started @X7
Tunatl ended @R9
HP 13/13
AC 16 (10 +2 dex, +4 natural armor) Touch 12 FF 14

No summons yet

[candycorn]

Wendy, Round 4

Refs/LOS:Swift: Activate Travel Devotion.
Move: to G22, by way of E22.
Free: Drop Scroll
Move: Draw Crossbow (1 hand grip)

Done.


Stats:Location: G22
HP: 4/4
AC: 21 (+2 Size, +6 Dex, +3 Profane), FF 15, Touch 21
In Hand: Light Crossbow (loaded)

Spells Memorized:Mage Hand x5

Reduce Person
Expeditious Retreat
Enlarge Person
Ray of Clumsiness

Investiture of the Spined Devil

Effects Active: Law Devotion(AC) 4/10, Reduce Person 3/20, Expeditious Retreat 2/20, Travel Devotion 1/10

[Wildgeist]

LoS check please. :smallsmile:

[Sallera]

Refs:Nyar.

Anisimovna:No LoS.

Tierhüter:Aguacatl is in T10. Tunatl is in R9.

Aguacatl:Tierhüter is in T7. His dogs are in R8 and S9.

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 4

@Refs/LoS

Tierhüter
Swift: Move to R12.
Move: Move to O12.
Standard: Active Spot [roll0]


AnC @S09
Move: Double Move to N12.


WiC @R08
Move: Double Move to O13.





End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @T07
Der Tierhuter Ended @O12

AnC Started @S09
AnC Ended @N12

WiC Started @R08
WiC Ended @O13



HP 9/9
AC 21 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size +3 LD) T 14??? (not sure if LD stacks in touch...) FF 18


Travel Devotion: 2/10
Law Devotion: 4/10


Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 5th Turn



AGUACATL
Double Move: to O15

TUNATL
Double Move: to N15


End of Turn

STATS

Aguacatl started @ Y7
Aguacatl ended @ O15
HP 5/5
AC 21 (10 +6 dex, +1 size, +2 armor, +2 shield) Touch 17 FF 15

99 Sling bullets left
(0 carried)

Hand 1 Wielding: Scroll (1x Entangle, 3x Produce Flame [1x entangle, 1x Produce Flame used])
Hand 2 Wielding: Shield
Mouth: Nothing

Spells Prepared:

L0 - Cure Minor wounds x3
L1 - Cure Light Wounds, Cure Light Wounds


Scroll of heat metal used up.

Produce Flame 2/10 Rounds

Tunatl started @X7
Tunatl ended @N15
HP 13/13
AC 16 (10 +2 dex, +4 natural armor) Touch 12 FF 14

No summons yet

[candycorn]

Provided No LOS:

Anisimovna, Round 5:

Refs/LOS:Move:pick up scroll, place in crossbow hand.
Standard: cast Investiture of the Spined Devil from scroll.
CL Check: [roll0] DC 4.

Not done, remainder of turn pending.

[candycorn]

Remainder of turn:Swift: Move from G22 to S22.
Free: Drop blank scroll
Free: Shift crossbow to 2 handed grip.

Hide: [roll0]
MS: [roll1]

Done.

Stats:Location: S22, Hiding, Moving Silent
HP: 4/4
AC: 21 (+2 Size, +6 Dex, +3 Profane), FF 15, Touch 21
In Hand: Light Crossbow (loaded)

Spells Memorized:Mage Hand x5

Reduce Person
Expeditious Retreat
Enlarge Person
Ray of Clumsiness

Investiture of the Spined Devil

Effects Active: Law Devotion(AC) 5/10, Reduce Person 4/20, Expeditious Retreat 3/20, Travel Devotion 2/10, Investiture of the Spined Devil 1/30

[Sallera]

Refs:Nyar.

Anisimovna:Aguacatl is in O15, holding scroll and shield.

Tierhüter:Aguacatl is in O15. Tunatl is in R9.

Aguacatl:Tierhüter is in O12. His dogs are in N12 and O13. When you reach O15, you see Anisimovna in G22, reduced, holding a crossbow, with a scroll on the ground at her feet. You may revise your turn from this point.

Rewind to Aguacatl's turn.

[Scorer]

Ref Question
What kind of action is Hurling the flame? Is it free? or is it standard?

[Sallera]

Aguacatl:Attack action, so standard.

[Scorer]

My turn remains as stated.

[Sallera]

Refs:Nyar.

Anisimovna:Aguacatl is in O15. Also holding a flame; forgot to mention that earlier.

Tierhüter:Aguacatl is in O15. Tunatl is in N15.

Aguacatl:Tierhüter is in O12. His dogs are in N12 and O13. Anisimovna is in G22.

[candycorn]

Anisimovna, redux:

@LOS:Swift:Move west, out of sight.

Remainder of turn:Free: Law Devotion to attack. continue swift move back to G22.

Hide: [roll0]
If Aguacatl's spot (with a -6 distance penalty) doesn't beat this roll, then the following attack has an additional +2 bonus, and is vs flat footed AC (+ cover).

Attack Aguacatl: [roll1]
Damage: [roll2]
If threat: [roll3]
If Crit: [roll4]

After that, I appear in G22.
Move: Out of LOS to the west.
Ending in:E21.
Hide: [roll5]
MS: [roll6]

Free: Shift Law to AC.

Done.

Stats:Location: G22
HP: 4/4
AC: 21 (+2 Size, +6 Dex, +3 Profane), FF 15, Touch 21
In Hand: Light Crossbow (loaded)

Spells Memorized:Mage Hand x5

Reduce Person
Expeditious Retreat
Enlarge Person
Ray of Clumsiness

Investiture of the Spined Devil

Effects Active: Law Devotion(AC) 5/10, Reduce Person 4/20, Expeditious Retreat 3/20, Travel Devotion 2/10

[candycorn]

Commentary:Sigh. Partner DQ and average rolls are abysmal.

D20 rolls this match (only for rolls that were actually needed-turn redos and threat confirms for non-threat attacks excluded):
2, 5, 5, 9, 7, 3... Average roll of 5.1...

I doubt I'll win this one.

[Scorer]

@LoS
Free: Whisper: Opponent is down, around G22.

[Wildgeist]

@LoS:

Free: Whisper to Aguacatl
Should I send my dogs to attack?

[Sallera]

Aguacatl/Tierhüter:You are not adjacent to each other, and thus any whispers will be heard only by your dogs. You'll need to speak normally to converse.

[Scorer]

@refs/LoS
make that a normal talk then

"yes, might be a good time to send dogs."

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 5

@Refs/LoS

Tierhüter
Swift: Move to M17.
Move: Move to K16.
Standard: Cast Produce Flame from Scroll


AnC @N12
Move: Move to L19.


WiC @O13
Move: Move to M19.





End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @O12
Der Tierhuter Ended @K16

AnC Started @N12
AnC Ended @L19

WiC Started @O13
WiC Ended @M19



HP 9/9
AC 23 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size +3 LD +2 Small Pillar) T 14??? (not sure if LD stacks in touch...) FF 18


Travel Devotion: 3/10
Law Devotion: 5/10


Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 6th Turn



AGUACATL
Move: to G15
Standard: Ready an Action
Shoot flame if LoS with Anisimovna.

TUNATL
Double Move: to E15


End of Turn

STATS

Aguacatl started @ O15
Aguacatl ended @ G15
HP 5/5
AC 21 (10 +6 dex, +1 size, +2 armor, +2 shield) Touch 17 FF 15

99 Sling bullets left
(0 carried)

Hand 1 Wielding: Scroll (1x Entangle, 3x Produce Flame [1x entangle, 1x Produce Flame used])
Hand 2 Wielding: Shield
Mouth: Nothing

Spells Prepared:

L0 - Cure Minor wounds x3
L1 - Cure Light Wounds, Cure Light Wounds


Scroll of heat metal used up.

Produce Flame 3/10 Rounds

Tunatl started @N15
Tunatl ended @E15
HP 13/13
AC 16 (10 +2 dex, +4 natural armor) Touch 12 FF 14

No summons yet

[Sallera]

Refs:Spot for Aguacatl: [roll0]

Anisimovna:Aguacatl is in G15, and readies an action. Tunatl is in E15.

Tierhüter:Aguacatl is in G15.

Aguacatl:Tierhüter is in K16. His dogs are in L19 and M19.

[candycorn]

Anisimovna, Round 6:

Refs/LOS:Standard: Total defense.
Free: Stop hiding. (I expect to trigger a ready action here. Provided Aguacatl's ready action is to attack, and it misses, the rest of my turn will be as posted.)
Swift: Move to G22.
Hide for move: [roll0]
MS:[roll1]

Move: Pick up scroll.

Done. LoS Required.

Stats:Location: G22
HP: 4/4
AC: 26 (+2 Size, +6 Dex, +3 Profane, +5 Dodge), FF 15, Touch 26
In Hand: Light Crossbow, Scroll(Investiture)

Spells Memorized:Mage Hand x5

Reduce Person
Expeditious Retreat
Enlarge Person
Ray of Clumsiness

Investiture of the Spined Devil

Effects Active: Law Devotion(AC) 6/10, Reduce Person 5/20, Expeditious Retreat 4/20, Travel Devotion 3/10

[Wildgeist]

LoS Please.... :smallbiggrin:

[candycorn]

I posted the request in the waiting room. This is nothing... My other match has been waiting for an LOS check for almost a week now.

[Sallera]

Aguacatl:Anisimovna appears in E21, in total defense, triggering your readied action. Do you take it?

[Scorer]

@Refs/Anisimovna
Im taking my readied action.

Throw Flame.

Ranged Touch Attack

[roll0]

Damage

[roll1]

[candycorn]

@Aguacatl/Refs:That misses. To Verify: I assume the fire in your hands goes out, correct?

@Refs only:Current Touch AC versus this attack:
(10 Base +2 Size, +6 Dex, +3 Profane, +5 Dodge* +4 Cover)

*extra +1 for Cautious trait

Remainder of my turn is unchanged.

[Sallera]

Refs:Nyar.

Anisimovna:Tierhüter's dogs are in M19 and L19.

Tierhüter:Aguacatl is in G15, and throws flame at someone you can't see.

Aguacatl:Anisimovna leaves E22 to the east. Tierhüter is in K16. His dogs are in L19 and M19.

[candycorn]

This ends my turn. Next!

Edit:

@REFS:When Aguacatl fired at me, did the flame in his hand go out?

Also, by my math, the dogs are 35 and 40 feet away, after factoring in height. This puts them out of scent range. Is my math correct?

Nothing to hold play, just a couple questions.

[Sallera]

Anisimovna:Correct on both counts.

[Wildgeist]

@ Refs:

In which direction did Aguacatl throw the flame?

[Sallera]

Tierhüter:Southwest-ish.

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 6

@Refs/LoS

Tierhüter
Swift: Move to K22.



Need LoS before I can continue with my turn.

[Sallera]

Refs:Nyar.

Anisimovna:Tierhüter is in K22, holding scroll and shield. His dogs are in M19 and L19.

Tierhüter:Anisimovna is in G22, reduced, holding scroll and crossbow.

Aguacatl:You lose sight of Tierhüter as he leaves K19 to the south. His dogs are in L19 and M19.

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 6 Continued

@Refs/LoS

Tierhüter
Standard: Throw flame to Anisimovna

Touch Ranged attack [roll0]
Damage [roll1]

Move to I24.


AnC @L19
Move: Move to G23 throw L19->L21->I24->H24->G23.
Satndard: Attack Anisimovna
Attack: [roll2]
Damage: [roll3]

If crit:

Attack: [roll4]
Damage: [roll5]


If attack succesful trip attempt.
[roll6]




WiC @M19
Move: Move to H22.
Satndard: Attack Anisimovna
Attack: [roll7]
Damage: [roll8]

If crit:

Attack: [roll9]
Damage: [roll10]


If attack succesful trip attempt.
[roll11]







End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @K16
Der Tierhuter Ended @I24

AnC Started @L19
AnC Ended @G23

WiC Started @M19
WiC Ended @H22



HP 9/9
AC 23 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size +3 LD +2 Small Pillar) T 14??? (not sure if LD stacks in touch...) FF 18


Travel Devotion: 4/10
Law Devotion: 6/10


Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[candycorn]

@Der Tierhüter/LOS:All attacks miss.

Refs:AC vs these attacks:
10(base) + 2(size) + 6(dex) + 3(profane) + 5(dodge) = 26.

This applies to both touch and full AC.

That makes it Aguacatl's turn.

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 7th Turn 1st Part



AGUACATL
Move: to E22



Need LoS before continuing

[Sallera]

Refs:Nyar.

Anisimovna:Aguacatl is in E22. Tierhüter is in K22. His dogs are in G23 and H22.

Tierhüter:Anisimovna is in G22. Aguacatl is in E22.

Aguacatl:Anisimovna is in G22, reduced, holding scroll and crossbow. Tierhüter is in K22. His dogs are in G23 and H22.

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 7th TurnPart 2

AGUACATL
Move: to F23

TUNATL
Move: to F22
Standard: Attack Anisimovna
Attack
[roll0]
Damage
[roll1]
If Crit
[roll2]
Additional Damage
[roll3]

If hit, trip: [roll4]

End of Turn

STATS

Aguacatl started @ G15
Aguacatl ended @ F23
HP 5/5
AC 21 (10 +6 dex, +1 size, +2 armor, +2 shield) Touch 17 FF 15

99 Sling bullets left
(0 carried)

Hand 1 Wielding: Scroll (1x Entangle, 3x Produce Flame [1x entangle, 1x Produce Flame used])
Hand 2 Wielding: Shield
Mouth: Nothing

Spells Prepared:

L0 - Cure Minor wounds x3
L1 - Cure Light Wounds, Cure Light Wounds


Scroll of heat metal used up.

Tunatl started @E15
Tunatl ended @F22
HP 13/13
AC 16 (10 +2 dex, +4 natural armor) Touch 12 FF 14

No summons yet

[candycorn]

Attacks miss.

Anisimovna, Round 7:

Go time.

Standard: Total Defense.
Swift: Move to S23, via H23. Provoke AoO's from all opponents and animals. Anyone with a weapon, take a swing at me.

Provided I am not prevented from moving further (trip/disabled/dropped):

Move: North, leaving LOS as I exit V21 to the north.

Ending in:V13.

Done.
Stats:Location: V13
HP: 4/4
AC: 26 (+2 Size, +6 Dex, +3 Profane, +5 Dodge), FF 15, Touch 26
In Hand: Light Crossbow, Scroll(Investiture)

Spells Memorized:Mage Hand x5

Reduce Person
Expeditious Retreat
Enlarge Person
Ray of Clumsiness

Investiture of the Spined Devil

Effects Active: Law Devotion(AC) 7/10, Reduce Person 6/20, Expeditious Retreat 5/20, Travel Devotion 4/10

[candycorn]

To clarify, I need responses from all opponents on AoO's from the animal companions. Provided I survive, this match is about to get interesting.

[Wildgeist]

AoOs

AnC @G23
Attack Anisimovna
Attack: [roll0]
Damage: [roll1]

If crit:

Attack: [roll2]
Damage: [roll3]


If attack succesful trip attempt.
[roll4]




WiC @H22
Attack Anisimovna
Attack: [roll5]
Damage: [roll6]

If crit:

Attack: [roll7]
Damage: [roll8]


If attack succesful trip attempt.
[roll9]

[candycorn]

Both attacks miss. Waiting on Aguacatl.

[Scorer]

AoO

Attack
[roll0]
Damage
[roll1]
If Crit
[roll2]
Additional Damage
[roll3]

[candycorn]

Also misses. Remainder of turn is as posted. Tierhuter's turn.

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 7

@Refs/LoS

Tierhüter
Swift: Move to I20.
Move: Double move to O12.


AnC @G23
Move: Double move to N14.



WiC @H22
Move: Double move to M14.






End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @I24
Der Tierhuter Ended @O12

AnC Started @G23
AnC Ended @N14

WiC Started @H22
WiC Ended @M14



HP 9/9
AC 23 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size +3 LD +2 Small Pillar) T 14??? (not sure if LD stacks in touch...) FF 18


Travel Devotion: 5/10
Law Devotion: 7/10


Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 8th Turn


AGUACATL
Double Move: to L17

TUNATL
Double Move: to M16


End of Turn

STATS

Aguacatl started @ F23
Aguacatl ended @ L17
HP 5/5
AC 21 (10 +6 dex, +1 size, +2 armor, +2 shield) Touch 17 FF 15

99 Sling bullets left
(0 carried)

Hand 1 Wielding: Scroll (1x Entangle, 3x Produce Flame [1x entangle, 1x Produce Flame used])
Hand 2 Wielding: Shield
Mouth: Nothing

Spells Prepared:

L0 - Cure Minor wounds x3
L1 - Cure Light Wounds, Cure Light Wounds


Scroll of heat metal used up.

Tunatl started @F22
Tunatl ended @M16
HP 13/13
AC 16 (10 +2 dex, +4 natural armor) Touch 12 FF 14

No summons yet

[candycorn]

Wendy, Round 8

Refs/LOS:Swift: Move to V5, then R5.
Move: to F5.
Standard: Cast Investiture of the Spined Devil from scroll.
CL Check:[roll0] DC 4

If fail, DC 5 Wisdom: [roll1]

Done.

Stats:Location: V13
HP: 4/4
AC: 21 (+2 Size, +6 Dex, +3 Profane), FF 15, Touch 21
In Hand: Light Crossbow, Scroll(Investiture)
Spells:Mage Hand x5

Reduce Person
Expeditious Retreat
Enlarge Person
Ray of Clumsiness

Investiture of the Spined Devil

Effects Active: Law Devotion(AC) 8/10, Reduce Person 7/20, Expeditious Retreat 6/20, Travel Devotion 5/10

[candycorn]

Updated Stats:Location: V13
HP: 4/4
AC: 21 (+2 Size, +6 Dex, +3 Profane), FF 15, Touch 21
In Hand: Light Crossbow, Scroll (Blank)
Spells:Mage Hand x5

Reduce Person
Expeditious Retreat
Enlarge Person
Ray of Clumsiness

Investiture of the Spined Devil

Effects Active: Law Devotion(AC) 8/10, Reduce Person 7/20, Expeditious Retreat 6/20, Travel Devotion 5/10, Investiture of the Spined Devil 1/30

[Wildgeist]

A LoS check would be nice.... :smallbiggrin:

[RandomAction]

LoS Check:

Refs:
Nyar(?)

Anisimovna:No LoS. Why are you referring yourself to Wendy?

Aguacatl:No LoS.

Der Tierhüter:Tunatl is in M-16, No LoS beyond that.

[candycorn]

@Random:Mixing up my matches, lol

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 8

@Refs/LoS


AnC @N14
Move: Move to V13.



WiC @M14
Move: Move to M06.





Need LoS before Turn can be concluded.

[candycorn]

Corrected Stats:Location: F5
HP: 4/4
AC: 21 (+2 Size, +6 Dex, +3 Profane), FF 15, Touch 21
In Hand: Light Crossbow, Scroll (Blank)
Spells:Mage Hand x5

Reduce Person
Expeditious Retreat
Enlarge Person
Ray of Clumsiness

Investiture of the Spined Devil

Effects Active: Law Devotion(AC) 8/10, Reduce Person 7/20, Expeditious Retreat 6/20, Travel Devotion 5/10, Investiture of the Spined Devil 1/30

Corrected: Location listed in stat block was not correct. Per Post 111, move was completed to F5, not V13. Stat block was not updated from previous move to include this.

Minor correction that I noticed during reviews and planning of next turn.

Also, at Wildgeist: LOS checks come a lot faster when you post them in the waiting room, rather than in the match thread.

[Sallera]

Refs:Nyar(-thief!)

Anisimovna:Tierhüter is in O12.

Aguacatl:Tierhüter's dogs are in G23 and H22.

Tierhüter:From O12, you see Anisimovna in V13. You may revise your turn from this point.

Rewind to Tierhüter's Round 7 turn.

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 7 Rewind

@Refs/LoS

Tierhüter
After achieving LoS

Free: Speak to Aguacatl so he can hear me. Anisimovna is in V13.

(OOC: And I'm out possible things to do.... :smalltongue: )





End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @I24
Der Tierhuter Ended @O12

AnC Started @G23
AnC Ended @N14

WiC Started @H22
WiC Ended @M14



HP 9/9
AC 23 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size +3 LD +2 Small Pillar) T 14??? (not sure if LD stacks in touch...) FF 18


Travel Devotion: 5/10
Law Devotion: 7/10


Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[/QUOTE]

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 8th Turn


Unchanged, dupped for reference

AGUACATL
Double Move: to L17

TUNATL
Double Move: to M16


End of Turn

STATS

Aguacatl started @ F23
Aguacatl ended @ L17
HP 5/5
AC 21 (10 +6 dex, +1 size, +2 armor, +2 shield) Touch 17 FF 15

99 Sling bullets left
(0 carried)

Hand 1 Wielding: Scroll (1x Entangle, 3x Produce Flame [1x entangle, 1x Produce Flame used])
Hand 2 Wielding: Shield
Mouth: Nothing

Spells Prepared:

L0 - Cure Minor wounds x3
L1 - Cure Light Wounds, Cure Light Wounds


Scroll of heat metal used up.

Tunatl started @F22
Tunatl ended @M16
HP 13/13
AC 16 (10 +2 dex, +4 natural armor) Touch 12 FF 14

No summons yet

[candycorn]

Anisimovna, Round 8:

Refs:Turn unchanged. This is spoilered as my opponent will likely gain and lose LOS a couple times during my turn.

LOS required.

[Sallera]

Refs:Listen for Aguacatl: [roll0]

Anisimovna:No LoS.

Aguacatl:Tierhüter is in O12, and says "Anisimovna is in V13." His dogs are in N14 and M14.

Tierhüter:Anisimovna moves north out of LoS, then appears in S5, then moves west out of LoS again at H5.

[candycorn]

For Clarification:

Done.

Stats:Location: F5
HP: 4/4
AC: 21 (+2 Size, +6 Dex, +3 Profane), FF 15, Touch 21
In Hand: Light Crossbow, Scroll (Blank)
Spells:Mage Hand x5

Reduce Person
Expeditious Retreat
Enlarge Person
Ray of Clumsiness

Investiture of the Spined Devil

Effects Active: Law Devotion(AC) 8/10, Reduce Person 7/20, Expeditious Retreat 6/20, Travel Devotion 5/10, Investiture of the Spined Devil 1/30

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 8

@Refs/LoS

Tierhüter
Standard: Ready an Action

To cast entangle from scroll if gain LoS with Anisimovna.



AnC @N14
Stays there



WiC @M14
Stays there






End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @O12
Der Tierhuter Ended @O12

AnC Started @N14
AnC Ended @N14

WiC Started @M14
WiC Ended @M14



HP 9/9
AC 23 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size +3 LD +2 Small Pillar) T 14??? (not sure if LD stacks in touch...) FF 18


Travel Devotion: 6/10
Law Devotion: 8/10


Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 9th Turn


AGUACATL
Move: to L15
Standard: Cast Produce Flame from scroll

TUNATL
Move: to L14
Standard: Full Defense


End of Turn

STATS

Aguacatl started @ L17
Aguacatl ended @ L15
HP 5/5
AC 21 (10 +6 dex, +1 size, +2 armor, +2 shield) Touch 17 FF 15

99 Sling bullets left
(0 carried)

Hand 1 Wielding: Scroll (1x Entangle, 3x Produce Flame [1x entangle, 2x Produce Flame used])
Hand 2 Wielding: Shield
Mouth: Nothing

Spells Prepared:

L0 - Cure Minor wounds x3
L1 - Cure Light Wounds, Cure Light Wounds


Scroll of heat metal used up.

Tunatl started @M16
Tunatl ended @L14
HP 13/13
AC 20 (10 +2 dex, +4 natural armor, +4 dodge) Touch 16 FF 14

No summons yet

[candycorn]

Anisimovna, Round 9:

Refs/LOS:Free: Drop Blank Scroll, Drop Crossbow.
Move: to E8 (by way of E5).
Hide: [roll0]
Move Silent: [roll1]

Not done. Need LOS.

[Sallera]

Refs:Spot for Aguacatl: [roll0]

Anisimovna:Aguacatl is in L15, holding a flame again. Tunatl is in L14. Tierhüter's dogs are in N14 and M14.

Aguacatl:Anisimovna is in E8, holding nothing. Tierhüter is in O12. His dogs are in N14 and M14.

Tierhüter:Aguacatl is in L15. Tunatl is in L14.

[Scorer]

Speak out of turn

She's on E8

[candycorn]

[b]Anisimovna, continued:

Aguacatl/Refs/LOS:By my calculations, Aguacatl is 60 feet away.

The breakdown I haveE8(+0) - G10(+10) = 20 feet.
G10(+10) - I12(+10) = 15 feet.
I12(+10) - K14(+20) = 20 feet.
K14(+20) - L15(+20) = 5 feet.
Total: 60 feet

Provided that is accurate:

Volley Strike on Aguacatl!

Attack 1: [roll0]
Damage: [roll1]

Attack 2: [roll2]
Damage: [roll3]

Attack 3: [roll4]
Damage: [roll5]

Not done. Remainder of turn pending rolls.

[candycorn]

Waiting on update of roll results from Aguacatl.

[Scorer]

@Refs/Anisimovna

Unless a ref says contrary, I beleive that's 3 misses
@refs only


21 AC +2 from position, +4 cover = 27

[candycorn]

Remainder of turn:

Refs/LOS:Swift: Move north, out of sight.

Ending in:H5.

Hide:[roll0]
Move Silent: [roll1]

Done.

Stats:Stats:Location: H5
HP: 4/4
AC: 21 (+2 Size, +6 Dex, +3 Profane), FF 15, Touch 21
In Hand: Light Crossbow, Scroll (Blank)
Spells:Mage Hand x5

Reduce Person
Expeditious Retreat
Enlarge Person
Ray of Clumsiness

Investiture of the Spined Devil

Effects Active: Law Devotion(AC) 9/10, Reduce Person 8/20, Expeditious Retreat 7/20, Travel Devotion 6/10, Investiture of the Spined Devil 2/30

[Scorer]

Speak out of turn

She's gone out of LoS towards north...

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 9

@Refs/LoS

Tierhüter
Free: Speak: Are you alright Aguacatl?

Standard: Keep Readied Action

To cast entangle from scroll if gain LoS with Anisimovna.



AnC @N14
Stays there



WiC @M14
Stays there






End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @O12
Der Tierhuter Ended @O12

AnC Started @N14
AnC Ended @N14

WiC Started @M14
WiC Ended @M14



HP 9/9
AC 23 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size +3 LD +2 Small Pillar) T 14??? (not sure if LD stacks in touch...) FF 18


Travel Devotion: 7/10
Law Devotion: 9/10


Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 10th Turn


AGUACATL
Free: Speak "Perfectly fine"
Standard: Ready an action
To throw Flame if LoS with Anisimovna.

TUNATL
Standard: Full Defense


End of Turn

STATS

Aguacatl started @ L15
Aguacatl ended @ L15
HP 5/5
AC 23 (10 +6 dex, +1 size, +2 armor, +2 shield, +2 Pole) Touch 19 FF 17

99 Sling bullets left
(0 carried)

Hand 1 Wielding: Scroll (1x Entangle, 3x Produce Flame [1x entangle, 2x Produce Flame used])
Hand 2 Wielding: Shield
Mouth: Nothing

Spells Prepared:

L0 - Cure Minor wounds x3
L1 - Cure Light Wounds, Cure Light Wounds


Scroll of heat metal used up.

Tunatl started @L14
Tunatl ended @L14
HP 13/13
AC 20 (10 +2 dex, +4 natural armor, +4 dodge) Touch 16 FF 14

No summons yet

[candycorn]

Anisimovna, Round 10:

Refs/LOS:Swift: Return to E8, by way of E5.

Hide: [roll0]
MS: [roll1]

Rest of turn dependent on LOS.

[Sallera]

Refs:Nyar.

Anisimovna:Aguacatl is in L15. Tunatl is in L14. Tierhüter's dogs are in N14 and M14. When you were in H5, you saw Tierhüter in O12, and he readied an action.

Aguacatl:Anisimovna is in E8, holding nothing. Tierhüter is in O12. His dogs are in N14 and M14.

Tierhüter:Aguacatl is in L15. Tunatl is in L14.

[candycorn]

@Aguacatl/LOS:Free: Shift Law Devotion to Attack.

Volley attack vs Flat footed AC (normally I'd do a "if flat footed, but with a hide of 33, you can't match it on a 20")

Volley 1: [roll0]
Damage: [roll1]

Volley 2: [roll2]
Damage: [roll3]

Volley 3: [roll4]
Damage: [roll5]

After that, I become visible in E8.

Waiting on results before posting remainder of my turn.

[candycorn]

Ref Breakdown:Attack Bonus: 6 dex + 2 size + 3 law devotion + 2 unseen

[Scorer]

Ref Question

Does the second and third attacks also go vs Flatfooted? or they go vs normal AC?

[Sallera]

Aguacatl:It's a volley attack, so all attacks are simultaneous and against FF AC.

Anisimovna:Just realized I was calculating LoS wrong there; you do have LoS to Tierhüter from E8 as well. Does that change your actions?

Need one answer before I update LoS.

[candycorn]

@Sallera:As much as I hate to say no, this is my last round of Law devotion, and I need to make it count. If I'd known that a couple turns ago, I'd have gone south to shoot from H22, but as things stand now? I'll deal with whatever ready action Tierhuter has.

Action stands as posted so far.

[Sallera]

Refs:Nyar.

Tierhüter:Anisimovna appears in E8 after firing a volley of spines at Aguacatl, holding nothing, and triggers your readied action. Do you take it?

Anisimovna:Tierhüter is in O12. His dogs are in N14 and M14. Tunatl is in L14.

Aguacatl is dead. Response from Tierhüter needed.

[Wildgeist]

@Refs


Yes I take it but just out of curiosity, didn't I gain LoS with anisimovna in the momment she steps in E8, before she could attack Aguacatl??? Or wouldn't my readied action be triggered by such attack, so... if she gets entangled, could Aguacatl still be alive?

[Sallera]

Tierhüter:No, she was hiding, so you don't gain LoS until after the attack.

[Scorer]

@refs
I beleive we need a rewind...

In the hum-... previous than last volley attack, when Anisimovna failed, Tiehuter had a readied action... shouldn't she had triggered back then?

[Sallera]

Anisimovna:Hm, looks like we do need a rewind to that point, actually. In your Round 9 turn, when you moved to E8, you also had previously unmentioned LoS to Tierhüter in O12; would that have changed your action?

[candycorn]

@Refs:Yes. Adjusted turn:

I should have cover from the H9-H18(+10), even if there is LOS. Provided that's true, I'll continue the move south to E14.

Swift: Move from E14 to E20, then back to E19. From that position, I should have LOS to just one opponent (Aguacatl)

Hide for second move: [roll0]
MS for second move: [roll1]

Ready action: attack Aguacatl if he Attempts to move to a square that would increase his cover to me, attempts to move greater than 60 feet away from me, attempts any standard action, attempts to move to a square that would have LOS without cover to me, or ends turn.

[Sallera]

Refs:Nyar.

Tierhüter:Aguacatl is in L15. Tunatl is in L14.

Anisimovna:Tierhüter is in O12. One of his dogs is in M14. Aguacatl is in L15. Tunatl is in L14. Taking a second move doesn't give you another Hide roll, by the way; it's generally one per round without some ability that says otherwise.

Aguacatl:Anisimovna moves south out of sight, then back to E19, and readies an action. Tierhüter is in O12. His dogs are in N14 and M14.

Rewind to Tierhüter, Round 9.

[candycorn]

@Sallera:

Your Hide check is opposed by the Spot check of anyone who might see you. You can move up to one-half your normal speed and hide at no penalty. When moving at a speed greater than one-half but less than your normal speed, you take a -5 penalty. It’s practically impossible (-20 penalty) to hide while attacking, running or charging...

...If people are observing you, even casually, you can’t hide. You can run around a corner or behind cover so that you’re out of sight and then hide, but the others then know at least where you went.

Action

Usually none. Normally, you make a Hide check as part of movement, so it doesn’t take a separate action. However, hiding immediately after a ranged attack (see Sniping, above) is a move action.

The bolded text is what I am doing. Running around a corner, and then hiding. It is also a seperate instance of movement, which is spell-like in nature (Comp Champ, p. 52). Since hide checks are attempted as a part of movement, it would seem that different instances of movement require new rolls.

The specific thing I am attempting is explicitly laid out in the hide skill description. Where is the justification for disallowing it?

[Sallera]

Anisimovna:I said nothing about not being able to Hide; you simply don't get to reroll your first check. You don't roll two Hide checks when you take a double move action, and moving through a swift action instead of a move action doesn't change that.

[candycorn]

@Sallera:
Normally, you make a Hide check as part of movement, so it doesn’t take a separate action.
This shows that it is part of the same action taken to move. I don't see a once per round restriction on the check. Any movement seems to qualify.

Since the hide check is a part of the action taken to move, it stands to reason that a different action taken to move would permit a different check.

In addition:
Action

Every time you have a chance to spot something in a reactive manner you can make a Spot check without using an action.

When I break LOS, and re-establish it, it is trying to spot something in a reactive matter. It's not the "something" that is the key, it's the "time". When I moved into E8, he had an opportunity to see me. That's one time.

When I moved into E20, he was no longer able to see me. Moving into E19 gives him the possibility to see me. That's a new chance to spot me, which should require a new spot check.

A spot chance is rolled for each opportunity to find something, not each something to be found. Thus, breaking LOS and re-establishing should represent a new chance to spot, and require a new roll.

[Sallera]

Anisimovna:Regardless, the Arena precedent is one check per round, a measure I suspect was likely implemented to prevent the very abuse you describe, although it's been around longer than I can remember, so I can't say for certain. One doesn't get four free attempts to spot someone by ducking around a corner and back repeatedly (this ruling I do remember reading, but it was in a very old match - on Dawn Arena, if you want to look - and a cursory search isn't finding it for me), and the same applies to hiding.

[candycorn]

@Sallera:It's one thing when the spotter tries to abuse it to get multiple spot checks. It's another when the spotter is trying to spot someone while they move from one cover to another, with changing ranges and spot modifiers.

In other words, gaming the system to look for the same thing a dozen times is different than darting between multiple forms of cover across varying distances in an effort to lose a pursuer. In the first, it's essentially the same spot check, vs the same cover, against a target in the same square. In the second, the cover changes, the location and circumstances of the thing being spotted change, even the modifiers which apply change.

In other words, everything about the spot is different. Different cover, different location, different distance. The example you described could well be an interpretation of the "each time you have a chance to spot" as "it's the same spot. You're looking from the same location andspotting the same thing through the same cover". The latter is not. It's a legitimate attempt to use multiple sources of cover across the arena to lose a target.

That's not an abuse.

[Wildgeist]

@Refs


So my Round 8 Readied Action was never triggered??? Or what has just happened???

[Scorer]

So now we're waiting on what?

[candycorn]

No ref put a hold on the match.

[Wildgeist]

I'm just waiting for an answer from a Ref/Sallera before posting my turn rewind.

[Sallera]

Anisimovna:Where can you draw the line between the two that doesn't create ambiguity? Should you have to roll seven Hide checks if you move across Clouds, just in case someone's watching? Every time you enter and exit a cloud bank, after all, it will be a new source of concealment with a different distance. The current precedent keeps things clear and doesn't create unnecessary work and potential for confusion. If you can find sufficiently authoritative and/or recent precedent otherwise, I'll certainly reconsider the matter, but aside from that, you'll have to bring the question to Kyeudo if you wish to contest the ruling further.

Tierhüter:Correct, your action did not trigger. There was an error in the LoS given the first time around.

[Kyeudo]

@Sallera

As I am an involved party here, I can't act as a ref here while the match still runs.


Nothing that holds up the match.

[candycorn]

@Sallera:No. Actually, under my suggestions, you'd roll 1 hide check for each action that involved movement. The reactive spot is the only one that would involve one check for each chance to see, and that would typically be rolled by the ref. Thus, you wouldn't roll 7 rolls 'just in case'. The ref would roll one spot check for each instance where a character left LOS and re-entered elsewhere (which would be less common on clouds than it would be somewhere like here).

This also has the advantage of giving people more chances to spot a hiding character, which actually hinders hiding characters.

Doesn't hold up the match.

[Wildgeist]

Ok then. I'm kindda in a hurry right now but I'll post my rewind no later than tomorrow. Sorry for the delay guys.... :smallredface:

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 9 Rewind

@Refs/LoS

Tierhüter

Move: Move to L12
If gain LoS Cast entangle from scroll, if not keep readied action.


To cast entangle from scroll if gain LoS with Anisimovna.



AnC @N14
Stays there



WiC @M14
Stays there






End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @O12
Der Tierhuter Ended @L12

AnC Started @N14
AnC Ended @N14

WiC Started @M14
WiC Ended @M14



HP 9/9
AC 23 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size +3 LD +2 Small Pillar) T 14??? (not sure if LD stacks in touch...) FF 18


Travel Devotion: 7/10
Law Devotion: 9/10


Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 10th Turn Redux


AGUACATL
Free: Speak "Time to use the dogs... unleash next turn"
Move: Kneel position and hide

[roll0]
Standard: Ready an action defensively
To throw Flame if LoS with Anisimovna.

TUNATL
Standard: Full Defense


End of Turn

STATS

Aguacatl started @ L15
Aguacatl ended @ L15
HP 5/5
AC 25 +2 vs ranged (10 +6 dex, +1 size, +2 armor, +2 shield, +2 Pole, +2 Dodge) Touch 21 FF 17

99 Sling bullets left
(0 carried)

Hand 1 Wielding: Scroll (1x Entangle, 3x Produce Flame [1x entangle, 2x Produce Flame used])
Hand 2 Wielding: Shield
Mouth: Nothing

Spells Prepared:

L0 - Cure Minor wounds x3
L1 - Cure Light Wounds, Cure Light Wounds


Scroll of heat metal used up.

Tunatl started @L14
Tunatl ended @L14
HP 13/13
AC 20 (10 +2 dex, +4 natural armor, +4 dodge) Touch 16 FF 14

No summons yet

[Sallera]

Anisimovna:Tierhüter moves to L12 and readies an action. Aguacatl kneels and then readies an action, triggering your readied action. Do you take it?

[candycorn]

@Refs:No, I decline to take it. I have another idea.

[candycorn]

Anisimovna, Round 10, redux:

Refs/LOS:Move: to E21, then back to E19. (20 feet total, less than half my speed)

Hide: [roll0]
Move Silent: [roll1]

Free: Law devotion to attack.
Follow with spine attack (3 spines) vs Aguacatl.

Attack 1: [roll2] (subtract 2 if aguacatl sees me)
Damage: [roll3]

Attack 2: [roll4] (subtract 2 if aguacatl sees me)
Damage: [roll5]

Attack 3: [roll6] (subtract 2 if aguacatl sees me)
Damage: [roll7]

Remainder of turn pending results, and likely ready action triggers.

[candycorn]

3 attacks vs Aguacatl, hitting:

FF AC 28 for 6 damage.
FF AC 31 for 5 damage.
FF AC 18 for 7 damage.

After that, I become visible in E19. Not done, but remainder of turn pending ready action triggers.

[Scorer]

Maybe not just yet...

I suggest you ask LoS first...

[candycorn]

Sallera has informed me already that you are currently in the same square as before, kneeling, with a ready action, when she asked me if I was going to take my ready action (I declined to take it).

On a side note: I did ask LOS (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10197329&postcount=1431).

[Sallera]

Aguacatl's readied action triggers before Anisimovna's turn, however. Take it if you wish to.

[Scorer]

[roll0]
[roll1]

Aguacatl's at -6hp

[candycorn]

At that, Tierhuter sees me in E19.

EDIT: And I believe it's a full kill. I moved out of LOS as part of my action, and hid moving in. Unless your spot check - distance penalty beats a 35 hide, you couldn't have seen me.

Scratch that, I neglected to see the cover bonus. Regardless, being rendered unconscious should still be an elimination.

EDIT 2: Waiting on whether or not a readied action is triggered/taken from Tierhuter (willing to bet yes to both).

[Scorer]

Negative... Tie can still cure me, I don't understand why are you so eager of eliminating me

[candycorn]

Negative... Tie can still cure me, I don't understand why are you so eager of eliminating me



Conditions of Loss

Going more than 130 feet above +0 feet in the arena, unless otherwise specified.
Moving or being moved out of the arena bounds by any means. (The parts of the Ethereal Plane and the Plane of Shadow that are coexistant with the arena are included in the arena, so moving to these areas does not disqualify you.)
Being rendered unable to continue fighting, usually by being killed or rendered unconcious by being reduced to negative hit points. This also can include such conditions as being rendered dominated (but not Charmed), permanently incapable of acting, or other effects.
Surrendering.
Not posting within the given time limits.


Being rendered unable to continue fighting via unconsciousness from negative HP is a listed condition of loss. I am interested in eliminating you from the match, because I need to eliminate both of you to win.* Just as I am sure you're interested in eliminating me. However, I am requesting that in accordance with listed arena rules.

Your character is currently completely unable to act. That qualifies under the bolded loss condition.

*- Also, because odds are currently 2 to 1 against me (5 to 1 if you count animal companions). I NEED to eliminate foes quickly in order to stand a chance.... And as for why you and not tier? You have less HP. A volley is more likely to drop you than he.

[Kyeudo]

Let me pipe in and say that when I wrote that condition, I was thinking only of 1v1 matches. As he has a team mate, being unconcious doesn't automatically remove him from the match. He could theoretically continue fighting. While I can't make an official call, I can say that the intent behind that clause was just meant to allow skipping of the formallity of killing a finished opponent so that the match could be called faster.

[candycorn]

Let me pipe in and say that when I wrote that condition, I was thinking only of 1v1 matches. As he has a team mate, being unconcious doesn't automatically remove him from the match. He could theoretically continue fighting. While I can't make an official call, I can say that the intent behind that clause was just meant to allow skipping of the formallity of killing a finished opponent so that the match could be called faster.

Fair enough. In that case, I will soldier on as best I can.

[hustlertwo]

Let me pipe in and say that when I wrote that condition, I was thinking only of 1v1 matches. As he has a team mate, being unconcious doesn't automatically remove him from the match. He could theoretically continue fighting. While I can't make an official call, I can say that the intent behind that clause was just meant to allow skipping of the formallity of killing a finished opponent so that the match could be called faster.

I know precedent is in favor of characters in 2v2 matches only being eliminated by actual death, or by both combatants being unconscious.

[Wildgeist]

I think I'll pass having my readied action. And I think it's my turn then.

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 10

@Refs/LoS

AnC @N14
Move: Move to F14
Standard: Total Defense.



WiC @M14
Move: Move to E15
Standard: Total Defense.


Tierhüter

Move: Move to M14
Standard: Cast a spell.


Cast Cure Light Wounds upon Aguacatl.
[roll0] hp cured







End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @L12
Der Tierhuter Ended @M14

AnC Started @N14
AnC Ended @F14

WiC Started @M14
WiC Ended @E15



HP 9/9
AC 23 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size +3 LD +2 Small Pillar) T 14??? (not sure if LD stacks in touch...) FF 18


Travel Devotion: 8/10
Law Devotion: 10/10


Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[candycorn]

After that, I become visible in E19. Not done, but remainder of turn pending ready action triggers.


I think I'll pass having my readied action. And I think it's my turn then.

No. It's not.

Remainder of turn:

Swift: Move south, out of sight as I exit E19 to the south.

Refs:Ending in H22. Movement is half speed, hiding.

If new hide check is needed (due to hide being broken from earlier attack):
Hide: [roll0]
MS: [roll1]

If not, use earlier numbers (Hide 35, MS 28).

NOW it's your turn.

[Wildgeist]

Sorry... My bad... :smallredface: Forgot that part, anyhow I'll keep my actions unchanged.

[candycorn]

@Refs:I'm thinking about the chances of getting ahold of their scrolls and throwing them out of bounds of the arena.

Last I was told on an LOS, each of my opponents was using a heavy shield and holding a scroll. I've asked in the waiting room if Aguacatl drops any items or falls prone when I knocked him into the negatives.

Also, I'd like to know if Tierhuter's items in hand have changed any (scroll and shield) with LOS, if possible. If I no longer have LOS to him, I had it when I dropped Aguacatl. In that case, I'd like to know what was in the hands of each opponent, as of that time. Also, any visible effects, such as flaming hands or the like.

[Scorer]

@Ref question before my turn
what happens in this case?

I know I start prone, but besides, what happens to my spell? is it still active? or was it lost? and should I grab my shield again?

[Sallera]

Refs:Nyar.

Tierhüter:Aguacatl is in L15. Tunatl is in L14.

Anisimovna:Tierhüter is in M14, with scroll and shield, and heals Aguacatl. His dogs leave LoS to the west along the 14 and 15 rows. Aguacatl is in L15, prone, wielding shield, with a scroll on the ground. Tunatl is in L14.

Aguacatl:Tierhüter is in M14. His dogs are in F14 and E15. Your spell would still be active if you hadn't used up its sole charge with your readied action, but as is, it's gone out. You dropped your scroll when you fell unconscious, but your shield is attached to your arm, so it's still there.

[candycorn]

@Refs:In reference to Tierhuter's decription:

With scroll and shield? Is the heavy shield being wielded?

Heals? I can only assume it's via spell, since I don't see an item/ability that would otherwise heal.

Spellcraft to identify:[roll0]

I was under the impression that both opponents were wielding their shields, and was expecting Tierhuter to drop his scroll to get a free hand to cast. Please verify that Tierhuter could satisfy all components of his spellcasting for whatever spell he used to heal Aguacatl.

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 11th Turn


AGUACATL
Free: Speak "I'll send Tunatl the other way around... Starting summons next turn"
Move: Stand up to Kneel position and hide
[roll0]
Standard: Full Defense

TUNATL
Send Tunatl to search and destroy
Move: To I22

To Refs:
If LoS there, move close to target. Or attack if she's hiding next to wall.
If no LoS move around the corner to E19 via E22
Remember to trip if hit.


Ref Question: May I cast normally "SNAI" in kneeled position? or should I stand up completely. If I must stand up completely, then change my move action to standing up, and thus reduce the "+2 vs ranged" in my STATS


End of Turn

STATS

Aguacatl started @ L15
Aguacatl ended @ L15
HP 2/5
AC 27 +2 vs ranged (10 +6 dex, +1 size, +2 armor, +2 shield, +2 Pole, +4 Dodge) Touch 23 FF 17

99 Sling bullets left
(0 carried)

Hand 1 Wielding: Nothing
Hand 2 Wielding: Shield
Mouth: Nothing

Scroll @ L15(1x Entangle, 3x Produce Flame [1x entangle, 2x Produce Flame used])

Spells Prepared:


L0 - Cure Minor wounds x3
L1 - Cure Light Wounds, Cure Light Wounds


Scroll of heat metal used up.

Tunatl started @L14
Tunatl ended @???
HP 13/13
AC 16 (10 +2 dex, +4 natural armor) Touch 12 FF 14

No summons yet

[candycorn]

Waiting on the answer to a question. Specifically, whether the method used to heal Aguacatl was a spell, and if so, whether it could be cast with a heavy shield and scroll in hand. If not, then the spell should have fizzled, rather than healed Aguacatl.

[Psionic Dog]

Master Ref PsiDog


I know precedent is in favor of characters in 2v2 matches only being eliminated by actual death, or by both combatants being unconscious.

Lets give an official statement on this:


Being rendered unable to continue fighting, usualy by being killed or rendered unconcious by being reduced to negative hit points. This also can include such conditions as being rendered dominated (but not Charmed), permanently incapable of acting, or other effects.

The two key words here are 'usually' and 'permanently'.

By precedent being 'temporarily' rendered unable to fight does not count as a condition of loss. 'Unconscious' is potentially temporary in 2v2 if a team mate still stands, and (rarely) may be called 'temporary' in 1v1 if fast healing, regeneration or like is active (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7969050).

But yes, in practice 99% of the time 2v2 elimination is only on actual death or DQ, with loss also typical if both are unconscious.



Waiting on the answer to a question. Specifically, whether the method used to heal Aguacatl was a spell, and if so, whether it could be cast with a heavy shield and scroll in hand. If not, then the spell should have fizzled, rather than healed Aguacatl.


@Anisimovna

Yes, the shield was equipped. Yes, the method was a spell. Precedent holds that spellcasting is a visible action, even if spellcraft is required to identify the spell.

You may read the spoiler to Aguacatl & Die Tierhüter.

@Aguacatl & Die Tierhüter



Somatic (S)

A somatic component is a measured and precise movement of the hand. You must have at least one hand free to provide a somatic component.


A heavy shield is so heavy that you can’t use your shield hand for anything else.

Die Tierhüter had his heavy shield equipped, and can't use that hand for casting or holding items. He also was holding at least one scroll. By my count that leaves him... zero free hands for the somatic component. The spell does not fizzile: but only because the spellcasting was an illegal action in the first place.

Illegal Action: Rewind to Der Tierhüter Round 10 just prior to attempted casting.

Illegal Action: Rewind to Der Tierhüter Round 10 just prior to attempted casting.

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 10 Rewind

@Refs/LoS

AnC @N14
Move: Move to F14
Standard: Total Defense.



WiC @M14
Move: Move to E15
Standard: Total Defense.


Tierhüter

Move: Move to M14
Free: Drop Scroll
Standard: Cast a spell.


Cast Cure Light Wounds upon Aguacatl.
[roll0] hp cured







End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @L12
Der Tierhuter Ended @M14

AnC Started @N14
AnC Ended @F14

WiC Started @M14
WiC Ended @E15



HP 9/9
AC 23 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size +3 LD +2 Small Pillar) T 14??? (not sure if LD stacks in touch...) FF 18


Travel Devotion: 8/10
Law Devotion: 10/10


Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Free
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[Sallera]

Tierhüter/Aguacatl:Since the action didn't change, use the original amount healed (8) rather than the reroll.

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 11th Turn Redux


AGUACATL
Free: Speak "I'll send Tunatl the other way around... Starting summons next turn"
Move: Hide while prone
(27)
Standard: defensively Ready an action
to stand up when Anisimovna ends turn.

TUNATL
Send Tunatl to search and destroy
Move: To I22

To Refs:
If LoS there, move close to target. Or attack if she's hiding next to wall.
If no LoS move around the corner to E19 via E22
Remember to trip if hit.


End of Turn

STATS

Aguacatl started @ L15
Aguacatl ended @ L15
HP 2/5
AC 25 +4 vs ranged (10 +6 dex, +1 size, +2 armor, +2 shield, +2 Pole, +2 Dodge) Touch 21 FF 17

99 Sling bullets left
(0 carried)

Hand 1 Wielding: Nothing
Hand 2 Wielding: Shield
Mouth: Nothing

Scroll @ L15(1x Entangle, 3x Produce Flame [1x entangle, 2x Produce Flame used])

Spells Prepared:


L0 - Cure Minor wounds x3
L1 - Cure Light Wounds, Cure Light Wounds


Scroll of heat metal used up.

Tunatl started @L14
Tunatl ended @???
HP 13/13
AC 16 (10 +2 dex, +4 natural armor) Touch 12 FF 14

No summons yet

[Psionic Dog]

Refs:Meh.

Tierhüter:Aguacatl is in L15 prone, and readies an action. "I'll send Tunatl the other way around... Starting summons next turn"
Tunatl moves from L14 to I22, and makes an attack.

Anisimovna:Tierhüter is in M14 (shield equiped.) He drops his scroll and casts a spell of the fallen scroll, healing Aguacatl. His dogs leave LoS to the west along the 14 and 15 rows.

Aguacatl is in L15, prone, wielding shield, with a scroll on the ground, and readies an action. -"I'll send Tunatl the other way around... Starting summons next turn"
Tunatl moves from L14 to I22, and attacks you.
[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]

[roll4]

Aguacatl:Tierhüter is in M14. His dogs are in F14 and E15. Tunati moves to I-22, and makes an attack.

Next.

[candycorn]

@Refs:I was under the impression that precedent was that the arena believes in Karma, and players generally make their own companion's attack rolls, unless they are not entitled to know that their companion made the attack. As Aguacatl has line of sight to his dog in I22, he is entitled to know that his dog is attacking.

Based on that, shouldn't he make the attack roll?

Source: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9129947&highlight=karma#post9129947

[Psionic Dog]

@candycorn & Refs
Hmmm. *takes Master Ref hat off*
Well, speaking as a High Ref and not a Master Ref:

The way I understand it the Karm Principle applies to the PCs themselves.

In the case of animal companions / summons the refs may make necessary rolls for the creature when it is acting/attacking out of sight of the owner, although out-of-sight defensiveness rolls are occasionally asked for.

Any other ref thoughts or observations on historic Animal Companion behavior?

[candycorn]

@Refs:In this instance, the attack is in line of sight of the owner, however. The player can see the animal making the attack. Knowledge of who it's attacking isn't necessary for the player to be able to make a roll.

Let's say that roll missed. If I managed to kill Aguacatl (AGAIN), and he was eliminated (AGAIN), and gained access to looking at all the match spoilers (AGAIN), he'd want a rewind.

The last rewind was a LOS issue that brought a dead player back to life because of a LOS error. If I'm eliminated, fine. But my opponent has all the information he needs to make the attack roll, and will not gain any information undue him by making it. I thought that defaulted to the opponent making the attack roll.

I understand why Refs make spot and listen checks. Even asking a player to make one would give the player the knowledge that something is there to spot. In cases where players would receive information they're not entitled to, refs can and should make the roll. However, I've not seen a single precedent where a player doesn't make the roll when he wouldn't gain any information.

In this instance, that's the case. The player knows his animal is making an attack. He even knows the square the animal is attacking. Since that is known, then he's gaining no information from being told to roll it that he doesn't already have. Therefore, it should default (IMO) to player roll.

[Psionic Dog]

@CandyCorn, Scorer, Refs
candcorn has petitioned that Tunatl's attack rolls should not have been made by a ref since Aguacatl had LoS to the animal companion.

It seems to be within the spirit of Arena Play so if no one has basis for objection I'm granting the request.

Scorer, Tunatl finds a target and attacks when reaching I22.
Please roll for the attack.

[Scorer]

@refs/Anisimovna



Attack
[roll0]
Damage
[roll1]
If Crit
[roll2]
Additional Damage
[roll3]

I'm just curious why Candycorn seemed to insist so much, I put such attack petition within "ref job" so... if a roll was already made... why ignore it? just curiosity...

[candycorn]

@Scorer:It's a ref job to do things that the players can't, within the boundaries of the honor system. It's a player's job to do everything else. It's been stated that the Arena believes in Karma, and that generally, players are supposed to make their own rolls. Refs may make rolls in situations where being told to make a roll would give a player information that he shouldn't have (if the animal left LOS, for example, or spot/listen checks). This was not one of those situations.

I wouldn't want a ref stepping in and making one of my attack rolls, just as I wouldn't want my opponent making my opposed grapple check for me. If I had lost a match after a Ref made an attack roll which missed, and I had been in LOS of my mount/companion when it happened, I would ask for a rewind. And we've had quite enough rewinds. I would REALLY like to see this match play out with no more. I'm a big believer in luck. If it's unavoidable, that's one thing. In this case, it's not.

I didn't argue when you wanted the rewind that brought you back to life, despite the fact that the actual impact in the match was minimal (3 missed shots versus no shots attempted). I was frustrated at losing a kill I had worked for in that manner, but I chalked it up to "it happens" and tried to be a good sport about it.

@LOS/Refs:Attack misses.

[candycorn]

Anisimovna, Round 11

Refs/LOS:Full Round Action: Withdraw.
Movement: H22 > G23 > H24 > T24 (75) > V22 > V16
Swift: Travel Devotion Move.
Movement: V16 > V6 > V8

Hide: [roll0]
Move Silent: [roll1]

Stats:Location: F5
HP: 4/4
AC: 21 (+2 Size, +6 Dex, +3 Profane), FF 15, Touch 21
In Hand: Light Crossbow, Scroll (Blank)
Spells:Mage Hand x5

Reduce Person
Expeditious Retreat
Enlarge Person
Ray of Clumsiness

Investiture of the Spined Devil

Effects Active: Reduce Person 9/20, Expeditious Retreat 8/20, Travel Devotion 7/10, Investiture of the Spined Devil 3/30 (12/15 shots remaining)

[candycorn]

To Clarify: Done.

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 11

@Refs/LoS

AnC @F14
Move: Double Move to Q22



WiC @E15
Move: Double Move to O22



Tierhüter

Move: Grab Scroll.
Swift: Move to S15
Move: Move to V20





End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @M14
Der Tierhuter Ended @V20

AnC Started @F14
AnC Ended @Q22

WiC Started @E15
WiC Ended @O22



HP 9/9
AC 18 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size) T 14 FF 18


Travel Devotion: 9/10



Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 12th Turn


AGUACATL
Pick up Scroll
Move: To Q21
Hide
[roll0]

TUNATL
Double Move: To P22


End of Turn

STATS

Aguacatl started @ L15
Aguacatl ended @ Q21
HP 2/5
AC 25 +4 vs ranged (10 +6 dex, +1 size, +2 armor, +2 shield, +2 Pole, +2 Dodge) Touch 21 FF 17

99 Sling bullets left
(0 carried)

Hand 1 Wielding: Scroll
Hand 2 Wielding: Shield
Mouth: Nothing

Scroll (1x Entangle, 3x Produce Flame [1x entangle, 2x Produce Flame used])

Spells Prepared:


L0 - Cure Minor wounds x3
L1 - Cure Light Wounds, Cure Light Wounds


Scroll of heat metal used up.

Tunatl started @I22
Tunatl ended @P22
HP 13/13
AC 16 (10 +2 dex, +4 natural armor) Touch 12 FF 14

No summons yet

[candycorn]

Posting a waiting room request for LOS.

[Psionic Dog]

@Refs
[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]

Anisimovna
Die Tierhüter is in M-14. No LoS to Aguacatl

Aguacatl
You see the 18 inch tall goblin (Anisimovna) appear at H24 move east, and leave LoS moving NE out of T24. You hear movement continue north from your SE to your NE.

Die Tierhüter
You see the 18 inch tall goblin (Anisimovna) appear at H24 move east, and leave LoS moving NE out of T24. You hear movement continue north from your SE to your NE.

Rewind back to Der Tierhüter Round 11.

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 11 Rewind

@Refs/LoS

AnC @F14
Move: Double Move to E22



WiC @E15
Move: Double Move to E20



Tierhüter

Move: Grab Scroll.
Swift: Move to H16
Move: Move to E19





End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @M14
Der Tierhuter Ended @E19

AnC Started @F14
AnC Ended @E22

WiC Started @E15
WiC Ended @E20



HP 9/9
AC 18 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size) T 14 FF 18


Travel Devotion: 9/10



Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 12th Turn Redux


AGUACATL
Move: Pick up Scroll
Move: To E17
Hide
[roll0]

TUNATL
Move: To H22


End of Turn

STATS

Aguacatl started @ L15
Aguacatl ended @ E17
HP 2/5
AC 21 (10 +6 dex, +1 size, +2 armor, +2 shield) Touch 17 FF 15

99 Sling bullets left
(0 carried)

Hand 1 Wielding: Scroll
Hand 2 Wielding: Shield
Mouth: Nothing

Scroll (1x Entangle, 3x Produce Flame [1x entangle, 2x Produce Flame used])

Spells Prepared:


L0 - Cure Minor wounds x3
L1 - Cure Light Wounds, Cure Light Wounds


Scroll of heat metal used up.

Tunatl started @I22
Tunatl ended @H22
HP 13/13
AC 16 (10 +2 dex, +4 natural armor) Touch 12 FF 14

No summons yet

[candycorn]

Posting LOS request in waiting room.

[Psionic Dog]

@Refs
:roach:

Anisimovna
Die Tierhüter picks up his scroll again and moves west out of LoS.
No LoS.

Aguacatl
You see Die Tierhüter (E19) and his pets (E22, E20). Nothing else.


Die Tierhüter
You see only Aguacatl (E17)


Play on!

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[candycorn]

Anisimovna, Round 12:

Refs/Los:Provided Tierhuter's movement was a move action, and not a 5 foot step:

Swift + Move: Move from V8 > R12 > L12.

If I gain LOS at any point, I'll amend turn from that point.

Hide: [roll0]
MS: [roll1]

Not done; Need LOS.

[Psionic Dog]

@Refs
:roach:
+edit stamp

Anisimovna
LoS established when you reach M12:
Die Tierhüter (E19) holding scroll
Aguacatl (E17) holding scroll.
No LoS to the canines.

Aguacatl
You see Die Tierhüter (E19) and his pets (E22, E20). Nothing else.

Die Tierhüter
You see only Aguacatl (E17) plus your two pets.


Still Anisimovna's go.

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[candycorn]

Anisimovna, Continued:

Refs/LoS: ...Buh? They completely gave up the high ground? And to go to where I used to be? They're playing WAY too timid for such odds. If they'd kept up more pressure on me, I'd be fighting for a breath til my buffs ran out. Oh well, I shan't look this gift horse in the mouth.

Continue to L12 (I should still have cover, so should still be able to hide).

Attack (volley, 3 spines) @Aguacatl.

Attack 1 (vs Aguacatl): [roll0] vs FF
Damage: [roll1]

Attack 2 (vs Aguacatl): [roll2] vs FF
Damage: [roll3]

Attack 3 (vs Aguacatl): [roll4] vs FF
Damage: [roll5]

After that, I should become visible in L12.

Done.

Stats:Location: L12
HP: 4/4
AC: 20 (+2 Size, +6 Dex, +2 Pillar), FF 14, Touch 20
In Hand: Light Crossbow, Scroll (Blank)

Spells:Mage Hand x5

Reduce Person
Expeditious Retreat
Enlarge Person
Ray of Clumsiness

Investiture of the Spined Devil

Effects Active: Reduce Person 10/20, Expeditious Retreat 9/20, Travel Devotion 8/10, Investiture of the Spined Devil 4/30 (9/15 shots remaining)

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 12

@Refs/LoS

AnC @E22

Standard: Total Defense.



WiC @E20

Standard: Total Defense.




Tierhüter

Free: Drop Scroll.
Swift: Move to E18 (Last Turn of travel Devotion)
Standard: Cast a spell:

Cast Cure Light Wounds upon Aguacatl.
[roll0] hp cured

Move: Grab Scroll.






End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @E19
Der Tierhuter Ended @E18

AnC Started @E22
AnC Ended @E22

WiC Started @E20
WiC Ended @E20



HP 9/9
AC 18 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size) T 14 FF 18


Travel Devotion: 10/10



Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[candycorn]

@Refs:Did my attack disable Aguacatl or knock him unconscious?

[Scorer]

Aguacatl 13th Turn


AGUACATL
Move: Stand up
Standard: Ready an Action
To move if Anisimovna attacks me or moves out of LoS


TUNATL
Move: G22


End of Turn

STATS

Aguacatl started @ E17
Aguacatl ended @ E17
HP 5/5
AC 21 (10 +6 dex, +1 size, +2 armor, +2 shield) Touch 17 FF 15

99 Sling bullets left
(0 carried)

Hand 1 Wielding: None
Hand 2 Wielding: Shield
Mouth: Nothing

Scroll (1x Entangle, 3x Produce Flame [1x entangle, 2x Produce Flame used])@E17

Spells Prepared:


L0 - Cure Minor wounds x3
L1 - Cure Light Wounds, Cure Light Wounds


Scroll of heat metal used up.

Tunatl started @H22
Tunatl ended @G22
HP 13/13
AC 16 (10 +2 dex, +4 natural armor) Touch 12 FF 14

No summons yet

[candycorn]

I think I'm gonna need LOS before I continue. I know that I should have hit with 1 attack there, and that it should have either disabled or knocked Aguacatl out (depending on how many HP Tierhuter restored the first time he healed you). I just need to know which, and what actions were taken. (For future reference, when you know I can see you, it speeds things up when you unspoiler the parts of your turn that I can see... Then I don't need to wait for a ref to sort everything out.)

[Scorer]

actually, you can open my spoiler.... shouldn't have been spoilered now that I think of it, as you have LoS with me

[candycorn]

So, you had to stand up... That means you were knocked unconscious... And you took a full round's worth of actions, which means you're not disabled now... Which means Tierhuter healed you again, for at least 2 hp. Which means that he's stacked his level 1 slots with cure spells (unless he had better luck finding a level 0 spell that heals 2+ hp than I did).

:smallsigh: I was afraid of that. I mean, I half expected it, but still, it makes it hard to shoot you to death.

Spellcraft for Tierhuter's turn, if applicable: [roll0]

EDIT: Sigh. I really miss good rolls.

[Scorer]

and we're waiting on what?

[candycorn]

I posted a request for LOS. I don't generally check spoilers without a ref or player telling me to, on account of possible information I shouldn't have.

For example, when you first told me I could open your spoiler, information about Tunatl's movement was in there, despite the fact that the animal moved somewhere I don't have LOS to. I tried to ignore it, but I don't want that happening without being told.

I'm waiting for a ref to give me LOS for tierhuter's action.

[candycorn]

Tell you what. Provided the following are true: (anyone can read)1) My attack on Aguacatl in round 12 hit once for 4 damage.
2) That 4 damage rendered Aguacatl unconscious (which I would assume reduces Aguacatl's HP to at least -1).
3) Tierhuter cast a spell which rendered Aguacatl conscious and able to take both a move and standard action (requiring healing of at least 2 HP).

Then the only way I can see that all happening, is that Tierhuter has expended both his level 1 spells curing you, and cannot have any more left. If that's true, then:

Anisimovna, Round 13:

Standard: Ready an action:Attack Aguacatl with a volley if he attempts any action or ends turn.

Done.

[Wildgeist]

Tierhüter free action

Speak: Do you see Anasimovna, Aguacatl??? Where is she???

[Scorer]

She's in L12 right now.

[Psionic Dog]

I posted a request for LOS. I don't generally check spoilers without a ref or player telling me to, on account of possible information I shouldn't have.

For example, when you first told me I could open your spoiler, information about Tunatl's movement was in there, despite the fact that the animal moved somewhere I don't have LOS to. I tried to ignore it, but I don't want that happening without being told.

I'm waiting for a ref to give me LOS for tierhuter's action.

Suggestion: Post & Label LoS spoilers by creature, so players can view what they have LoS to.

Anisimovna
From L12 you gained LoS to LoS to Tunatl (H22).
Your attack hits Aguacatl, knocking her unconscious.
Die Tierhüter then moves to E18, drops the scroll, casts a spell, and then picks the scroll back up.
Aguacatl then stands back up, and readies an action.
Tunatl apparently moves west back out of LoS.

Aguacatl
Anisimovna is now visible in L12, otherwise no change.

Curiosity: why did Tunatl only move to G22 and not say, E19? Last I heard (Round 11) Tunatl's orders were to seek clockwise around the southwester point.

Die Tierhüter
Anisimovna is innow visible in L12, otherwise no change.

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 13


AnC @E22

Move: Double move to J12.


WiC @E20

Move: Double move to L13.

@Refs/LoS


Tierhüter


Standard: Ready an action:

To take a 5 feet step and cast Produce Flame from scroll if Anasimovna attacks me.







End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @E18
Der Tierhuter Ended @E18

AnC Started @E22
AnC Ended @J12

WiC Started @E20
WiC Ended @L13



HP 9/9
AC 18 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size) T 14 FF 18



Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[Scorer]

Aguacatl delays until after Anisimovna's turn

[candycorn]

Awaiting resolution of ref question in waiting room.

[Scorer]

Never thought that delaying would provoke such a delay :smallwink:

(Sorry, had to say it hehehehe :smallbiggrin:)

[candycorn]

Anisimovna, Round 13:

Swift: Move east, out of LOS.

Remainder:to P12, then back to L12.

Hide: [roll0]
MS: [roll1]

Turn not over.

[candycorn]

If your spot check with a -6 distance penalty does not beat a 17, this volley attack vs Aguacatl is vs Flat footed AC.

Attack: [roll0] (+2 more if unseen, and vs FF AC)
Damage: [roll1]

Attack: [roll2] (+2 more if unseen, and vs FF AC)
Damage: [roll3]

Attack: [roll4] (+2 more if unseen, and vs FF AC)
Damage: [roll5]

After that, I become visible in L12.

Move: Out of LOS to the east.

Remainder:Ending in V9

[candycorn]

Critical Threat: [roll0] (+2 more if unseen)
Damage: [roll1]

EDIT: Done.

[Wildgeist]

@ Anasimovna

Question: When you moved east out of LoS in the round beggining I assume you used Travel Devotion. What I'm not sure is if that causes an AoO from my dog or not....

[Scorer]

it does.

it also triggers my readied action.

Move out of LoS to:
E21

[candycorn]

I believe I have cover from the animal at L13, which prevents AoO's.

In addition, it does NOT trigger your readied action, because you have no readied action to trigger. That was precisely what I was asking in the waiting room. Readied actions last until the beginning of your next turn. When your turn started, you may have Delayed it, but it still began.

EIDT:Here's the ruling (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10510968&postcount=150). You may now look in the spoiler.

[Scorer]

Ok, again I'm out then... however you do get AoO from the dog... you have no cover

[candycorn]

Ok, again I'm out then... however you do get AoO from the dog... you have no cover


When making a melee attack against an adjacent target, your target has cover if any line from your square to the target’s square goes through a wall (including a low wall). When making a melee attack against a target that isn’t adjacent to you (such as with a reach weapon), use the rules for determining cover from ranged attacks.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w85/maharai23/cover_proof.png
The image shows a line from the dog's square to the target's square that goes through a wall. Thus, there is cover.

[Wildgeist]

I also think there's no cover.... In case it's not determined otherwise...

WiC AoO

Attack: [roll0]
Damage: [roll1]

Only if Crit:

Attack: [roll2]
Damage: [roll3]


If attack is succesfull, trip attempt

[roll4]

[candycorn]

Well, the issue is irrelevant, because the roll missed anyway, but my image shows that cover exists vs melee attacks.

[Scorer]

Well, the issue is irrelevant, because the roll missed anyway, but my image shows that cover exists vs melee attacks.

Not that dog, the other dog...

[candycorn]

Ah, well, in that case, the AoO missed, so it's Tierhuter's turn. And I don't think he can get you up from 11 damage this time. At best, you're at -6, and he's already used both of his level 1 spells healing you.

[Scorer]

Wildgeist is having problems with internet, so he asked me to tell in case problems reach DQ time.

[Wildgeist]

Sorry for the nasty delay.... :smalleek:

Der Tierhüter Round 14



@Refs/LoS


AnC @J12

Move: move to O12.


WiC @L13

Move: move to O15.


Tierhüter

Move: Double move to K14








End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @E18
Der Tierhuter Ended @K14

AnC Started @J12
AnC Ended @O12

WiC Started @L13
WiC Ended @O15



HP 9/9
AC 18 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size) T 14 FF 18



Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Scroll
Off Hand Wielding: Shield


Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[candycorn]

Anisimovna, Round 14:

Refs/LOS:Swift: Move V9 > V5 > N5
Hide: [roll0]
MS:[roll1]
Move: N5 > F5.

If I establish LOS, I'll revise from there.

Not Done. Need LOS.

[Sallera]

Refs:Nyar.

Tierhüter:No LoS.

Anisimovna:Dogs move to O12 and O15. You may revise your turn.

[candycorn]

@Refs:Commentary:Hm. He's retaking the high ground... But the position of the dogs suggests he's using them for a shield. So that gives me an idea where he's likely at. Double move can't get him all the way up there, but... Hmm. My kingdom for a camo net, right now.

Adjust move.

Swift: to N5, as listed.
Partial Move: to J7.

Hide and MS as listed before (28 and 10, respectively).

Not done; need LOS.

[Sallera]

Refs:Listen for Tierhüter: [roll0]

Anisimovna:You see Tierhüter in K14 when you reach J6. You may revise your turn from this point.

Tierhüter:No LoS.

[candycorn]

@Refs:Well, Hm. Continue to I7 (provided I still have cover to hide). Keep previous hide/MS rolls.

Ready action: Volley at Tierhuter if:
his animals are both out of sight and he then does anything, or
either of his animals attempt to move within 15 feet of me, or
Tierhuter attempts to take any action or non-action that would either move him out of LOS, increase his range to me to above 60 feet, give him LOS to me without cover, or increase his AC vs a ranged attack from me (include total defense in this, just in case) or
Tierhuter attempts to delay or end turn.

Done.

Stats:Location: I-7
HP: 4/4
AC: 20 (+2 Size, +6 Dex), FF 12, Touch 18
In Hand: Light Crossbow, Scroll (Blank)

Spells:Mage Hand x5

Reduce Person
Expeditious Retreat
Enlarge Person
Ray of Clumsiness

Investiture of the Spined Devil

Effects Active: Reduce Person 12/20, Expeditious Retreat 11/20, Travel Devotion 10/10, Investiture of the Spined Devil 6/30 (9/15 shots remaining)

[Wildgeist]

Der Tierhüter Round 15


@Refs/LoS


AnC @O12

Standard: Total Defense.


WiC @O15

Standard: Total Defense.


Tierhüter

Move: Move to L15

Free: Drop shield

Free: Hold scroll with off hand

Standard: Ready an action:

To Cast Entangle from scroll if I'm attacked.









End of Turn

STATS

Der Tierhuter Started @K14
Der Tierhuter Ended @L15

AnC Started @O12
AnC Ended @O12

WiC Started @O15
WiC Ended @O15



HP 9/9
AC 18 (10 +2 Armor +2 Shield +3 Dexterity +1 Size) T 14 FF 18



Bullets Left: 20 Carried of a total of 20 Owned

Bullets Used: 0


Good Hand Wielding: Free
Off Hand Wielding: Scroll

Shield in ground @ L15

Backpack:
Alchemist Fire X2


Spells Prepared:
Level 0
Flare
Guidance
Virtue

Level 1
Summon Natures Ally I
Cure Light Wounds

[Sallera]

Tierhüter:You need to take a move action to loose a shield before you can drop it.

[Wildgeist]

@ Sallera/ Refs

Is it possible to loose it as part of the "walking" in a move (displacement) action as you can draw a weapon as part of the move action???