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Cardea
2010-11-10, 08:57 AM
So, need some help. In the image below, is there anything currently existing in DnD that mimics it, or something on the Homebrew board that can mimic it? Talking about the giant blue energy bow.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/5164241858_73ab17f2b6_b.jpg

Greenish
2010-11-10, 09:11 AM
I'm not sure if that's supposed to be an actual weapon, or just a manifestation of the wielder's power. Energy Bow (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ask/20061227a) should work for the former, and soulbow (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20060403a&page=2) can do the latter with some refluffing.

Bakkan
2010-11-10, 09:15 AM
The Prismatic Bow spell from Complete Mage (p 113) looks like it might work. You can even get it t o be any of the seven prismatic colors you want simply by using up the other six. It requires 8th-level spells, though.

Alternatively, the Soulbow (Complete Psionic p 36) could definitely be fluffed to look like the picture.

EDIT: Semi-Swordsaged!

Spiryt
2010-11-10, 09:31 AM
Looks like funny fungi too me. :smallamused:

Hur hur hur...

Person_Man
2010-11-10, 09:35 AM
Hank's Energy Bow (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ask/20061227a) could also be used.

Cardea
2010-11-10, 09:49 AM
I'm not sure if that's supposed to be an actual weapon, or just a manifestation of the wielder's power. Energy Bow (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ask/20061227a) should work for the former, and soulbow (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20060403a&page=2) can do the latter with some refluffing.

Hank's Energy Bow (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ask/20061227a) could also be used.
Knew about Hank's Energy Bow, and it comes close, with the lack of string or a need for arrows (As it produces some of it's own). Need something a step higher, where the actual bow is made from energy. Whether it's from a class feature, or a magic item (Maybe even the gauntlet itself?) If there isn't something like this elsewhere, I think I'll have to resort to Homebrewing it up.

mikeejimbo
2010-11-10, 09:53 AM
Are you trying to stat up Ezreal's Arcane Barrage?

(It was funny - before I saw the character himself, I thought "Huh, that looks like Ez's Arcane Barrage, actually, then I saw Ez, and was like "Oh, that's why.")

Cardea
2010-11-10, 10:04 AM
Are you trying to stat up Ezreal's Arcane Barrage?

(It was funny - before I saw the character himself, I thought "Huh, that looks like Ez's Arcane Barrage, actually, then I saw Ez, and was like "Oh, that's why.")

Didn't know who this character was up until just now. Thank you.
And just the glove/bow, I suppose.

Chambers
2010-11-10, 10:41 AM
Looks like the bow is created out of Force from the magic of the gauntlet.

Hmmm....

Cardea
2010-11-10, 10:42 AM
Looks like the bow is created out of Force from the magic of the gauntlet.

Hmmm....
Three guesses what this is for, Chambers.

mikeejimbo
2010-11-10, 12:41 PM
My first guess was "League of Legends d20" but I am not Chambers so I do not know. :smalltongue:

subject42
2010-11-10, 03:38 PM
Didn't know who this character was up until just now. Thank you.
And just the glove/bow, I suppose.

Take a look at the Gauntlet of Infinite Javelins from the MiC. It's pretty close, if not exact.

SamsDisciple
2010-11-10, 04:50 PM
Idk for certain but I believe bleach homebrew has stuff like this but I haven't looked into it to much. They do have energy bows that come out of gauntlets though, no string nor need for arrows.

Chambers
2010-11-10, 04:54 PM
Unrelated note: That belt and buckle are way too big for her. It's like looking at some kind of American Apparel ad for female adventurers.

Prime32
2010-11-10, 05:13 PM
Knew about Hank's Energy Bow, and it comes close, with the lack of string or a need for arrows (As it produces some of it's own). Need something a step higher, where the actual bow is made from energy. Whether it's from a class feature, or a magic item (Maybe even the gauntlet itself?) If there isn't something like this elsewhere, I think I'll have to resort to Homebrewing it up.You're going about this the wrong way.

What is the spell doing? It looks like "firing a barrage of energy blasts, requiring one hand (and possibly a magic item) to perform". There are plenty of ways to do that, and it can be described however you want.

For instance:

Rogue wearing a gauntlet with a wand chamber containing a wand of scorching ray
Warlock using eldritch blast
Soulbow using mind blade gauntlets

mikeejimbo
2010-11-10, 05:14 PM
Unrelated note: That belt and buckle are way too big for her. It's like looking at some kind of American Apparel ad for female adventurers.

Does it change your opinion if you were to be told that Ezreal is in fact, a male? (Albeit androgynous)

Cardea
2010-11-10, 06:10 PM
Unrelated note: That belt and buckle are way too big for her. It's like looking at some kind of American Apparel ad for female adventurers.
SHUT UP IT'S FASHION BECAUSE I AM UNIQUE

You're going about this the wrong way.

What is the spell doing? It looks like "firing a barrage of energy blasts, requiring one hand (and possibly a magic item) to perform". There are plenty of ways to do that, and it can be described however you want.

For instance:

Rogue wearing a gauntlet with a wand chamber containing a wand of scorching ray
Warlock using eldritch blast
Soulbow using mind blade gauntlets

I was aiming for a Gauntlet or a Class ability, to:

Produce Bow that could change to be treated as a Short Bow, Long Bow or Great Bow, depending on Proficiencies/Preference.
Said Bow would be made out of an Energy-esque substance. Could be sundered. Could be used as a make-shift melee weapon.
Could be improved (With either Class Advancement, or Weapon Enhancement Costs)
Could produce Arrows to be shot at. Standard rules would apply for creating missles in this manner.

Coidzor
2010-11-10, 06:23 PM
^: You're just going to have to accept some homebrew that mostly fits or take existing material and make it fit if you're not gonna make it up from scratch. You're probably going to have to take material that mostly fits and whack it with a wrench a few times.

As far as price... the fact that it could come back from being sundered due to being a product of the gauntlet would up the price likely but the fact that it's tied to a hands-slot and thus necessitates MIC item stacking or giving up the ability to wear other gloves/gauntlets would lower it, I think...


You're going about this the wrong way.

What is the spell doing? It looks like "firing a barrage of energy blasts, requiring one hand (and possibly a magic item) to perform". There are plenty of ways to do that, and it can be described however you want.

For instance:

Rogue wearing a gauntlet with a wand chamber containing a wand of scorching ray
Warlock using eldritch blast
Soulbow using mind blade gauntlets


Or even an item of magic missile.

Cardea
2010-11-10, 06:52 PM
^: You're just going to have to accept some homebrew that mostly fits or take existing material and make it fit if you're not gonna make it up from scratch. You're probably going to have to take material that mostly fits and whack it with a wrench a few times.

As far as price... the fact that it could come back from being sundered due to being a product of the gauntlet would up the price likely but the fact that it's tied to a hands-slot and thus necessitates MIC item stacking or giving up the ability to wear other gloves/gauntlets would lower it, I think...
Yeah, I was already thinking I'd have to pull different things from different items. Quiver of Infinite Arrows, Bow of Energy, etc. etc. Looking at ECL of 13+ if it's an item. So... yeah.

Prime32
2010-11-10, 07:48 PM
SHUT UP IT'S FASHION BECAUSE I AM UNIQUE

I was aiming for a Gauntlet or a Class ability, to:

Produce Bow that could change to be treated as a Short Bow, Long Bow or Great Bow, depending on Proficiencies/Preference.
Said Bow would be made out of an Energy-esque substance. Could be sundered. Could be used as a make-shift melee weapon.
Could be improved (With either Class Advancement, or Weapon Enhancement Costs)
Could produce Arrows to be shot at. Standard rules would apply for creating missles in this manner.
Soulbow (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20060403a&page=2) is this.


The only difference between the composite versions of shortbow/longbow/greatbow is improved damage and range, right?
Made out of energy, and you still have your normal mind blade. Once you reach lv4 you can use the bow in melee.
Yep.
I don't understand.

Plus there are gauntlets which make your mind blade better, and which extend to mind arrows.

Cardea
2010-11-10, 07:52 PM
Soulbow is this.
My issue with the Soulbow is that it's more like a Soul-throwing-knife. With this, I'm trying to make something nifty, and that can get bonuses of Arrows and a Bow.

Prime32
2010-11-10, 07:56 PM
My issue with the Soulbow is that it's more like a Soul-throwing-knife. With this, I'm trying to make something nifty, and that can get bonuses of Arrows and a Bow.No, soulknives (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/classes/soulknife.htm) can already throw their knives, which destroys them. :smallconfused: Soulbows (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20060403a&page=2)...

The bolt is identical in all ways (except visually) to an arrow shot from a composite longbow....have bows.

Fuzzie Fuzz
2010-11-10, 08:09 PM
Unrelated note: That belt and buckle are way too big for her. It's like looking at some kind of American Apparel ad for female adventurers.

She has very heavy pants.

Cardea
2010-11-10, 08:17 PM
No, soulknives (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/classes/soulknife.htm) can already throw their knives, which destroys them. :smallconfused: Soulbows (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20060403a&page=2)... have bows.
Something is missing here in the line of communication. I don't want to toss something at people. I want to shoot something at people, using a Bow made of Force/Energy shooting from an indefinite supply of Arrows made out of Force/Energy.

I really, really don't want to use Soulknife/Soulbow, as all Soulbow is doing is changing the focus of Melee to a focus on one of it's class features of throwing its weird mind dagger thing.

Pretty sure I'm being somewhat difficult here, but... eh. Sorry.

Susano-wo
2010-11-10, 08:20 PM
I'd think the best solution is to take the force bow, make it made of energy, and make it linked to a magic item that allows it to form as a swift action in your hand, and prevents disarming, sundering, etc, since it's y'know...a bow made of energy

For the lots of arrows, well full BAB and rapid shot ^ ^

Kaun
2010-11-10, 08:35 PM
Yeah Ez's abilities are all shot from his magic armband thingy.

I think the bow looking affect is only there when he does his most powerfull shot, the rest of the time it just comes stright from the arm band.

Prime32
2010-11-10, 09:15 PM
Something is missing here in the line of communication. I don't want to toss something at people. I want to shoot something at people, using a Bow made of Force/Energy shooting from an indefinite supply of Arrows made out of Force/Energy.

I really, really don't want to use Soulknife/Soulbow, as all Soulbow is doing is changing the focus of Melee to a focus on one of it's class features of throwing its weird mind dagger thing.

Pretty sure I'm being somewhat difficult here, but... eh. Sorry.As I said, soulbows don't throw things. They shoot things. They can take Manyshot or Weapon Focus (composite longbow) and they shoot things better.

They can still throw their mind blade if they want, it's separate. They can take Brutal Throw, etc. and they'll be better at throwing their mind blade while their mind arrows remain unaffected.

ffone
2010-11-11, 01:54 AM
So, need some help. In the image below, is there anything currently existing in DnD that mimics it, or something on the Homebrew board that can mimic it? Talking about the giant blue energy bow.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/5164241858_73ab17f2b6_b.jpg


Silent Image. The character is trying to bluff some monsters into fleeing. And impress some girl in the party.

Greenish
2010-11-11, 06:50 AM
Something is missing here in the line of communication. I don't want to toss something at people. I want to shoot something at people, using a Bow made of Force/Energy shooting from an indefinite supply of Arrows made out of Force/Energy.Yes, there seems to be a hick-up in the communication, since what you're describing could easily be a soulbow with just minor refluffing.

You could also be a psychic warrior with soulbound weapon AFC (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20070214a).

Eldan
2010-11-11, 07:12 AM
The Soulbow does not focus on throwing it's mindblade. Instead, it changes it's mindblade from it's shortsword into a longbow, so it's pretty much exactly what you want. A longbwo made from energy, shooting energy arrows.

drakir_nosslin
2010-11-11, 07:21 AM
Maybe we should just try and forget the Soulbow, no matter how well it fits with the original request, since Cardea obviously doesn't want to use that particular class.

Personally I'd suggest a homebrewed magic item, but that's me. I like homebrew. Or, you could always use a Swordmage (http://wiki.faxcelestis.net/index.php?title=Swordmage). With the feat Favored Incantation you can use a the kind of bow you like as much as you like.

Goonthegoof
2010-11-11, 07:32 AM
Minor question regarding the prismatic bow earlier: How much would it cost to make that a permanent item? Is there a way of doing so without letting the charges run out? (And are there any items similar to it that could have the same treatment applied?)

Greenish
2010-11-11, 07:37 AM
Minor question regarding the prismatic bow earlier: How much would it cost to make that a permanent item? Is there a way of doing so without letting the charges run out? (And are there any items similar to it that could have the same treatment applied?)Using the item creation guidelines, a command word item of 8th level spell would cost 216,000 gp.

hamishspence
2010-11-11, 07:45 AM
How about a Psychokinetic or Psychokinetic Burst bow?

"Glows from the inside with lethal psionic energy" and "bestows that energy on ammunition shot from it"

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/items/weapons.htm#psychic

Is there a "quiver of infinite ammo" somewhere that could go with it?

A glove of storing might help with keeping it hidden till you need it.