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Tokuhara
2010-11-25, 09:56 PM
Plan on building a Wu Jen starting at lv 9. Problem is that with Wu Jen's "reduced" casting, I have no idea how to build a good design for them

House Rules: Wu Jens can also cast from the Wizard Spell list, minus Necromancy, Enchantment, and Illusions; Feats every 3 levels, ability score boosts every 2

Race: Ive decided on Hellbred (Spirit) so I can cast evil spells without having to be evil

Psyren
2010-11-25, 10:28 PM
Plan out the taboos ahead of time with your DM (up to 6.) You don't want to get saddled with one that's easy to fail and have to pull out the crossbow that day.

nargbop
2010-11-25, 11:13 PM
See if your DM will allow retraining of the secrets at higher levels, to allow you to apply them to a different spell. It's super fun to be able to cast Storm of Needles (Metal Storm?) while tied down and gagged underwater.

Wu jens are not as strong offensively as wizards, nor as good buffers as clerics, but strike a nice balance while giving you a flavor framework for your character.

Urpriest
2010-11-25, 11:26 PM
With your houserule, Wu Jen are actually pretty good. Go for the standard Batman optimization and you'll be pretty golden.

Tokuhara
2010-11-25, 11:36 PM
I already picked my taboos:

1. I cannot eat a meal prepared (as in cooked) with metal utensils (pots are okay)
2. I cannot sit facing East
3. I cannot wear Black
4. I cannot own more than one home and the home must be humble.
5. I cannot enter a church without donating 3 gold or more
6. I cannot willingly recieve a blessing from a priest unless I give him something in return

and the DM told me that our cleric could cast Atonment to reverse my taboo, but I must owe him a favor in return.

And I was considering picking up levels in Incantrix, Exalted Arcanist, and Primal Scholar

Psyren
2010-11-25, 11:50 PM
Have your cleric bring a scroll of atonement, there's no point in him preparing it every day when the taboo effects wear off every night.

Exalted Arcanist is for spontaneous casters only so that's a no-go.

AdalKar
2010-11-26, 03:30 AM
Maybe this won't help you from the start, but once you got a higher level so you can cast Body outside Body there are some nice uses for it.

Please don't necro the threads :smallwink:
Like these (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144226) or these(Post#5) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81794) and if you're going to be an Incantatrix the second link shows how you can use you're abilities to really buff yourself and your group up (casting BoB and let them use their Cooperative Metamagic uses).

Hope this can help you a bit.

Edit: Just found these handbooks which may or may not be of use (I don't know how much of these you know already :smallsmile: ):
Playing a GOD (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=394.0)
Being Batman (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=9749.0)
Ways to expend a spell list (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=2777.0)
PS: Sorry if my grammar isn't the best, didn't write english in quite some time. :smallredface: