Lay on Hands

[jywu98]

Is there any way to improve. a Paladin's lay on lands ability?

[MeeposFire]

3.5 I believe yes.

4e not as far as I know.

[golentan]

Clarify, please. If you're asking is there a way to (improve) it, there are feats that do so. If is there a way to (get) it, be a paladin/prestige paladin/healer/some other prestige classes. If is there a way to (get rid of) it, make them fall. If something else... Something else.

[Marnath]

Is there any way to a Paladin's lay on lands ability?

Is there any way to what with a lay on hands? I don't understand the question.

[jywu98]

A way to improve it, 3.5
Wow. Sorry typo.

[golentan]

Just leafing through the Paladin Handbook (since it's been too long since I played 3.5), Caduceus Bracers and Unicorn pendants both are magic items that provide boosts/options, Paladin of the Golden Cup helps, and I'm pretty sure Complete Divine or Complete Champion has some boosting feats. Give me a minute and I can dig around.

[true_shinken]

The paladin in my game is a multiclassed Swordsage/Paladin/Shiba Protector. He only has 4 levels in Paladin as of now, but with Serenity feat and Wis 30, that's 40 hit points he may heal as a standard action. I love it when he does it, because it's one turn he is not wuxia-killing all the bad guys. :smalltongue:

[Scarlet-Devil]

Well, I'm sure there are a few, but the only one I can think of off the top of my head is Hands of the Healer, or whatever it's called, from Book of Exalted Deeds. (It just treats your charisma as being 2 points higher for determining how much you can heal, so basically an extra point per level.)

[golentan]

Hmm... Complete divine has spells which let you boost it, but no feats. Hands of a healer does seem the only feat I can nose up.

[Psyren]

The Pathfinder Paladin (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/paladin) gets to choose from a menu of additional effects (called Mercies) to apply to his LoH. They're also just better overall than standard paladins. I'd recommend giving them a look.

[C_Lee_B]

Thanks guys.

[gorfnab]

Really hard to get more optimized at Lay on Hands than this paladin (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19859750/Paladin_Healing_Optimization&post_num=10#338083454).

[grimbold]

you could homebrew it to be like 4x paladin level otherwise i am unsure

[Eloel]

you could homebrew it to be like 4x paladin level otherwise i am unsure

You're nerfing it? Me no like.
Seriously, any Paladin worth their salt will have a minimum of 18 Cha when LoH starts to matter.