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Betropper
2010-12-25, 08:11 PM
I was just reading this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181068) thread and came up with yet another thread of who would win.

Scenerio: The Zel'Naga, from SC, have been recovering for 20 years since the zerg turned against them. Still retreating, they happened to find the galaxy the Empire, from Star Wars, was ruling at the time. The Empire has just constructed the Death Star. The Zel'Naga, seeing the Empire's evil creation, decides to fight just for once to save the enslaved people from being wiped out one by one.

Who would win? The near-omnipotent Zel'Naga, although they are low in number, or the vast fleets of the Empire and it's Death Star?

Closet_Skeleton
2010-12-25, 08:22 PM
No one even knows what the Xel'Naga can do in a military sense apart from a few bits of left over deus ex machina tech. This like asking the 15th century English if King Arthur could defeat the Ancient Egyptians.

chiasaur11
2010-12-25, 10:25 PM
No one even knows what the Xel'Naga can do in a military sense apart from a few bits of left over deus ex machina tech. This like asking the 15th century English if King Arthur could defeat the Ancient Egyptians.

Fair point there.

The answer is yes to that second question, by the way. Arthur knows Merlin, and Merlin killed the Egyptian god of evil on Mars.

Mikeavelli
2010-12-25, 10:33 PM
No one even knows what the Xel'Naga can do in a military sense apart from a few bits of left over deus ex machina tech. This like asking the 15th century English if King Arthur could defeat the Ancient Egyptians.

King Arthur would totally put a whuppin' on the Ancient Egyptians.

The Glyphstone
2010-12-25, 10:35 PM
But what if they called in their mutual defense treaties with the Sunken City of Atlantis?

TheBoyce
2010-12-25, 10:36 PM
Well what Era Egyptians are we talking about? Biblical enslavin' Hebrew Egyptians, Cleopatra led get-beat-down-by-Rome Egyptians, or what?

Calmness
2010-12-25, 10:43 PM
No one even knows what the Xel'Naga can do in a military sense apart from a few bits of left over deus ex machina tech.
They were pretty good at dying.

KingOfLaughter
2010-12-25, 10:47 PM
They were pretty good at dying.

They had a race meant for destroying everything turn on them.

I say Xel'Naga, since they can create entire races...

Erts
2010-12-25, 10:49 PM
Hate to be that guy, but thread derailment. Still, Arthurian England.
And the Empire. Better Tech and scale.

Fan
2010-12-25, 10:49 PM
Acutally, as major spoilers...



The Xel'Naga out tech the Protoss, and out number and out do the Zerg at their schtick.

They have better logistics than the Terrans, and manage pretty well when it comes to orchestrating Millennia spanning plans.



So I'd say their at least on par, even more so if we allow them to have created any races. Hell, their old enough to have made the Empire, and could have been around since LONG before the Old Republic, and potentially at the down of Star Wars humanity.

Their billion year old, untended, Zerg infested and attack, repurposed artifacts can wipe planets in the span of seconds of specific lifeforms without harming the races activator.. I'd say that's a good deal more practical than the Death Star, allowing for them to wipe world's easily and hold all their resources.

A tough fight due to Star Destroyers being stupidly powerful (I mean, there is literally no point in the Death Star with the numbers I've seen.), but the Xel'Naga win due to being better strategists and their planet wipers allowing them to take and hold in addition to being reusable within minutes.

Arcanoi
2010-12-25, 10:57 PM
No one even knows what the Xel'Naga can do in a military sense apart from a few bits of left over deus ex machina tech.

Perhaps that all they ever were. The Xel'Naga died out not because some extra-Korpruluan force killed them, but because their genetic material was so in tune with the very core of dramatic tension that they could only ever do something at the last possible moment in the most dramatic way. The reason why the protoss are so weak compared to the Xel'Naga is because they're only using the most basic, everyday Xel'Naga tech. The more advanced Xel'Naga tech is beyond their pitiful sense of dramatic tension! Imagine it, medical equipment that can only heal you on your deathbed! Vehicles that will only work if you're escaping from something life-threatening! A gun that can only hit its target with the last bullet in the clip! Unfortunately, the Xel'Naga's racial drama-mind eventually caught onto the idea of bringing their race back from the brink of extinction... and then a primitive protoss tribe accidentally killed the last of them.

That's why the Xel'Naga artifact at the end of Wings of Liberty needs to charge up; it's actually absorbing the dramatic tension of a last stand against innumerable hordes.

The Glyphstone
2010-12-25, 11:01 PM
Perhaps that all they ever were. The Xel'Naga died out not because some extra-Korpruluan force killed them, but because their genetic material was so in tune with the very core of dramatic tension that they could only ever do something at the last possible moment in the most dramatic way. The reason why the protoss are so weak compared to the Xel'Naga is because they're only using the most basic, everyday Xel'Naga tech. The more advanced Xel'Naga tech is beyond their pitiful sense of dramatic tension! Imagine it, medical equipment that can only heal you on your deathbed! Vehicles that will only work if you're escaping from something life-threatening! A gun that can only hit its target with the last bullet in the clip! Unfortunately, the Xel'Naga's racial drama-mind eventually caught onto the idea of bringing their race back from the brink of extinction... and then a primitive protoss tribe accidentally killed the last of them.

That's why the Xel'Naga artifact at the end of Wings of Liberty needs to charge up; it's actually absorbing the dramatic tension of a last stand against innumerable hordes.

That's....amazing. And brilliant.

Gullintanni
2010-12-29, 12:54 PM
Perhaps that all they ever were. The Xel'Naga died out not because some extra-Korpruluan force killed them, but because their genetic material was so in tune with the very core of dramatic tension that they could only ever do something at the last possible moment in the most dramatic way. The reason why the protoss are so weak compared to the Xel'Naga is because they're only using the most basic, everyday Xel'Naga tech. The more advanced Xel'Naga tech is beyond their pitiful sense of dramatic tension! Imagine it, medical equipment that can only heal you on your deathbed! Vehicles that will only work if you're escaping from something life-threatening! A gun that can only hit its target with the last bullet in the clip! Unfortunately, the Xel'Naga's racial drama-mind eventually caught onto the idea of bringing their race back from the brink of extinction... and then a primitive protoss tribe accidentally killed the last of them.

That's why the Xel'Naga artifact at the end of Wings of Liberty needs to charge up; it's actually absorbing the dramatic tension of a last stand against innumerable hordes.

If this logic is correct, then Luke must have been a descendant of the Xel'Naga. In which case, the Xel'Naga have already defeated the Empire at least once before.

Plot Twist!

Edit: Ewoks too. The Rebellion would have failed without them; thus they succeeded.

BarroomBard
2010-12-30, 02:18 AM
Maybe, after seeing the failure that was the Protoss and being driven off by the Zerg, the Xel'Naga decided to limit their genetic tinkering to non-sentient lifeforms.

Then, the Xel'Naga went and encountered the Empire, having changed their names to (dun, Dun, DUUUUUUUN:elan:) the Yuuzahn Vong!

cdstephens
2011-01-03, 02:44 PM
I think Luke would go into Super Saiyan mode and destroy all the xenos filth.

DiabolicalFurby
2011-01-03, 07:21 PM
I think Luke would go into Super Saiyan mode and destroy all the xenos filth.

I sense a disturbance in this thread. As if a million continuities, crying out, are suddenly silenced.