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Origomar
2010-12-30, 10:03 PM
im having a hard time picturing what a pick is(the weapon)

are they talking like a mining pick or an ice pick or either, cause both seem like rather silly weapons.


not that it matters but the pick i am referring to is from here

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/weapons.htm#weaponCategories

OracleofWuffing
2010-12-30, 10:11 PM
The Player's Handbook has an image of weapons with labels on them, and it appears they were thinking of the mining variety.

Edit: Also, "A light or heavy pick resembles a miner’s pick but is specifically designed for war."

Origomar
2010-12-30, 10:19 PM
The Player's Handbook has an image of weapons with labels on them, and it appears they were thinking of the mining variety.

Edit: Also, "A light or heavy pick resembles a miner’s pick but is specifically designed for war."

ohh thanks, a mining pick still seems like a silly weapon but i guess it makes more sense than an ice pick XD

Shhalahr Windrider
2010-12-30, 10:19 PM
Here’s a bit on real life picks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseman's_pick

awa
2010-12-30, 10:32 PM
dnd and fantasy works in general tend to have a very poor idea of how real weapons look/work so the above description is how the real weapon works and looks but dnd has basically decided a military pick is also a mining tool.

The Glyphstone
2010-12-30, 10:50 PM
See also: the Spiked Chain. Or the Dire Flail.

ericgrau
2010-12-30, 10:53 PM
dnd and fantasy works in general tend to have a very poor idea of how real weapons look/work so the above description is how the real weapon works and looks but dnd has basically decided a military pick is also a mining tool.

Wikipedia also said a horseman's pick is curved like a pickaxe, so at least the shape is similar. The link also said that one is interchangeable with warhammer, though that's probably because the other side is a hammer. The D&D ones don't let you multi-tool your weapons like that.

AslanCross
2010-12-30, 10:56 PM
See also: the Spiked Chain. Or the Dire Flail.

And the warhammer. :smallsigh:

Xuc Xac
2010-12-31, 02:45 AM
Wikipedia also said a horseman's pick is curved like a pickaxe, so at least the shape is similar. The link also said that one is interchangeable with warhammer, though that's probably because the other side is a hammer. The D&D ones don't let you multi-tool your weapons like that.

Real warhammers don't actually look like the big sledgehammers or giant mallets you see in D&D or other fantasy games. Real warhammers were spiked like the "horseman's pick".

ericgrau
2010-12-31, 06:00 AM
I didn't think the D&D warhammer was that big, only the WoW one. I thought the D&D warhammer was like the horseman's pick with a more useless pointy end instead of the pick side.

Psyx
2010-12-31, 06:09 AM
See also: the Spiked Chain. Or the Dire Flail.

Or the gnomish pick and -my all-time most despised weapon- the mercurial swords.

Kurald Galain
2010-12-31, 06:14 AM
See also: the Spiked Chain. Or the Dire Flail.

Or the sling. 3E's stats for a sling were not based on a military sling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sling_%28weapon%29) but on a Dennis the Menace sling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slingshot).

Also also, double swords. Heck, double anything :smallsigh:

Yora
2010-12-31, 07:31 AM
See also: the Spiked Chain. Or the Dire Flail.
I just recently found out spiked chains do exist (http://martial-arts-shop.eu/images/products/en/9_Section_Whip_Chain_KungFu.jpg). However, they have only a single spike at the end of the chain and I don't think it makes for a good tripping weapon.

The sling should deal at least 1d6 points of damage and tripple damage on a critical hit. That way it would probably be as useful as actual military slings.

This (http://www.realmcollections.com/images/pl/Other_Weapons_German_War_Hammer_M600366_1753.jpg) is a warhammer. This (http://www.lineage2.com/images/item_screens/big_hammer.jpg) isn't.

endoperez
2010-12-31, 11:37 AM
I just recently found out spiked chains do exist (http://martial-arts-shop.eu/images/products/en/9_Section_Whip_Chain_KungFu.jpg). However, they have only a single spike at the end of the chain and I don't think it makes for a good tripping weapon.

Chain Whip is pretty close to how it's portrayed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqwypp4saEY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLrO9hLuELc

It looks awesome... However, I've been thinking that the Meteor Hammer (blunt) and Rope Dart (penetrating) are closer to how Spiked Chain is supposed to be used - you can grab it anywhere along the the flexible rope, and twist it around yourself in weird and cool-looking angles, sometimes throwing it further (achieving reach). They're more flexible than the chain whip, and offer much longer reach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVcSpNXWYUM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hOL8juiy1w

Based on the number of those iterative attacks, I must conclude that the main guy is epic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLoE6zTZyyU

hewhosaysfish
2010-12-31, 11:58 AM
See also: the Spiked Chain. Or the Dire Flail.

Gyrespike. IIRC, from the Arms and Equipment Guide.

It's like a sword with a flail attached to the handle.

Psyx
2010-12-31, 01:38 PM
Spiked chains do exist, but they're not a very viable weapon, especially not for use in close confines with allies nearby.

Mercurial still makes me maaaaaaaaaddd!

Prime32
2010-12-31, 02:24 PM
Gyrespike. IIRC, from the Arms and Equipment Guide.

It's like a sword with a flail attached to the handle.Except that's actually closer to a kusari-gama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kusarigama) than the actual kusari-gama stats.

Jjeinn-tae
2010-12-31, 05:02 PM
Based on the number of those iterative attacks, I must conclude that the main guy is epic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLoE6zTZyyU

He's using Whirlwind attack, notice how he (rarely at least) attacks the same person more than once.


Ramhammers are pretty ridiculous too, I love using them in DnD, but I can't imagine it being remotely possible... especially if I'm correct in my thinking that you can still push them back more than 5 ft with it if your strength check is high enough...