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umbrapolaris
2010-12-31, 11:48 AM
what class name will you give to a Gestalt wizard/sorcerer? (except magus)

it uses the base 20+ level gestalt sorcerer/wizard specialized on metamagics able to hurl many spell at same time. the setting is a high powered Forgotten Realms background in a diablo/gauntlet campaign style (lot of action less talking), the gestalt is supposed to be a elite group of Imaskari spellcasters trained by the surviving Imaskari Lord-Artificers to defeat the God-King and the mulhorandi pantheon (pantheon that crushed the Imaskari empire before).

fratar11
2010-12-31, 12:02 PM
Sorcard, Wizerer?

umbrapolaris
2010-12-31, 12:31 PM
Sorcard, Wizerer?

hahaha something more fluffy

The Glyphstone
2010-12-31, 12:33 PM
Mage, Magi, Arcanist, Spellweaver, Spellcaster...

HalfTangible
2010-12-31, 12:36 PM
Arcanus? (from 'arcane' if you couldn't tell)

Magician?

Incarnus? (from incarnum)

Overpowarus? :smalltongue:

Realaus?

umbrapolaris
2010-12-31, 12:38 PM
something that may reflect his awesome number of spells castable a day or the fact he his a gestalt.

i thought about spellbomber...

HalfTangible
2010-12-31, 12:40 PM
Spellmaker? Arcanalancher? (Arcane+Avalanche) Spellslinger?

LOTRfan
2010-12-31, 12:40 PM
Overpowarus? :smalltongue:

Don't be silly. That is obviously the wizard/barbarian gestalt. :smalltongue:

Anyways... witch, maybe? Relying both on intelligence and an otherworldly power not completely in their control.

HalfTangible
2010-12-31, 12:41 PM
Don't be silly. That is obviously the wizard/barbarian gestalt. :smalltongue:

That's called Obviouscompensalator. :smalltongue:


Anyways... witch, maybe? Relying both on intelligence and an otherworldly power not completely in their control.

I'm pretty sure there's already a witch class =/

umbrapolaris
2010-12-31, 12:43 PM
Spellslinger?

i think a class used it already? but not sure

LOTRfan
2010-12-31, 12:44 PM
I'm pretty sure there's already a witch class =/

There is? I thought that was pathfinder. I know they made a spell list in the DMG, but no official class was ever made (at least, I don't think so). But yeah, there is the Dread Witch PrC, so maybe Witch is not a good idea.

Crow
2010-12-31, 12:44 PM
Lightning Warrior? :)

HalfTangible
2010-12-31, 12:45 PM
Lightning Warrior? :)

What if he's not an Evoker?

umbrapolaris
2010-12-31, 12:46 PM
Lightning Warrior? :)

hahaha why not Brokenbannedbydm ^^

Greenish
2010-12-31, 12:56 PM
If Magus doesn't sound powerful enough, how about Ultimate Magus? :smallamused:

Kobold-Bard
2010-12-31, 12:58 PM
Worldrender?

Demispell?

Sexy'n'Smart?

Tengu_temp
2010-12-31, 12:58 PM
Sourcerer? Sorcelator?

darbythegambler
2010-12-31, 12:59 PM
Don't be silly. That is obviously the wizard/barbarian gestalt. :smalltongue:


more like the wizard/erudite gestalt :smalleek: now THAT would be an Overpowarus

HalfTangible
2010-12-31, 01:01 PM
more like the wizard/erudite gestalt :smalleek: now THAT would be an Overpowarus

Oh NOW i wanna try one of those D= darnit

umbrapolaris
2010-12-31, 01:13 PM
wizard/erudite stp is called God ^^

Scoot
2010-12-31, 01:33 PM
Dualrender (Rends time and space, with 2 different classes!)

SpellSpike(r)

Arcane Hoarder (Once again referring to mass amounts of spells)

Gomar
2010-12-31, 01:37 PM
Orly?

10 char

HalfTangible
2010-12-31, 01:41 PM
Ultimarcane?

hamishspence
2010-12-31, 01:44 PM
Maybe pick something from history for a spellcaster class name?

Djinn_in_Tonic
2010-12-31, 01:50 PM
Honestly, we need more information. Is it for a PrC, or a Gestalt game? If a PrC, what's the fluff, aside from Sorcerer/Wizard?

umbrapolaris
2010-12-31, 09:48 PM
just the base 20+ level gestalt sorcerer/wizard specialized on metamagics able to hurl many spell at same time. the setting is a high powered Forgotten Realms background, the gestalt is supposed to be a elite group of Imaskari spellcasters trained by the surviving Imaskari Lord-Artificers to defeat the God-King and the mulhorandi pantheon (pantheon that crushed the Imaskari empire before)

a link to the Imaskari empire: http://www.candlekeep.com/library/articles/imaskar.htm

HalfTangible
2010-12-31, 09:51 PM
Imasarcanus?

...

I dunno enough about forgotten realms to suggest anything else =/

umbrapolaris
2010-12-31, 09:55 PM
Imasarcanus?I dunno enough about forgotten realms to suggest anything else =/

hahaha without knowledge of the FR setting, u almost found the name of the 7 Imaskari's Artifacts ^^ ( Imaskarcana, which contains the Imaskari magic knowledge )

Kuma Da
2010-12-31, 09:57 PM
Keeper of the litany?

Omnimancer?

Spellglaive?

The Glyphstone
2010-12-31, 09:58 PM
What do you call a level 20+ gestalt sorcerer/wizard capable of reshaping reality to his whims multiple times per round?


Whatever He Wants You To.

:smallbiggrin::smallbiggrin::smallbiggrin:

HunterOfJello
2010-12-31, 09:59 PM
Mageborn, Truemage, Arcane Savant

umbrapolaris
2010-12-31, 10:02 PM
What do you call a level 20+ gestalt sorcerer/wizard capable of reshaping reality to his whims multiple times per round?[/spoiler]
imaskari at their highest were able to open a dimensionnal door to a egyptian-like world, enslave almost all the inhabitant , block access the captive's gods to enter faerun (the FR world) with a magical barrier ... so reshaping reality is not so far :p

Jarrick
2010-12-31, 10:08 PM
Endless Witch? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMdj7SK8uTE&feature=related) (Caution, some bloody content)

The Glyphstone
2010-12-31, 10:12 PM
imaskari at their highest were able to open a dimensionnal door to a egyptian-like world, enslave almost all the inhabitant , block access the captive's gods to enter faerun (the FR world) with a magical barrier ... so reshaping reality is not so far :p

You didn't open the spoiler, did you?

Knaight
2010-12-31, 10:17 PM
Artist of the Arcanum
Sage
Channeler
Spiritist

umbrapolaris
2010-12-31, 10:22 PM
You didn't open the spoiler, did you?

i didn't fully understand it, it was your name proposition ? ^^

The Glyphstone
2010-12-31, 10:32 PM
It was supposed to be a take on the classic elephant/gorilla joke. "What do you call a five hundred pound gorilla? Whatever he wants."

Jarrick
2010-12-31, 10:51 PM
Most people... they just call him "Sir".

:smalltongue:

Urpriest
2010-12-31, 11:18 PM
You call it a gestalt Sorceror|Wizard. If classes exist in-setting and have names, then that's what it is. If they don't, then you don't need a name for it. Just use the name of the organization that these guys and the indistinguishable people with different builds are part of.

Amiel
2011-01-01, 09:11 AM
Incantatar

Incantatrix

God

Please Don't Turn Me Into A Toad

umbrapolaris
2011-01-01, 09:16 AM
It was supposed to be a take on the classic elephant/gorilla joke. "What do you call a five hundred pound gorilla? Whatever he wants."

ok, i catch the joke ^^

yldenfrei
2011-01-01, 09:40 AM
Arcane Genius?
Spellbook Master?
Arcane Professor?
True Glass Cannon?
Arcane Battery?
Shirley?

umbrapolaris
2011-01-01, 10:24 AM
i hesitate between Spellslinger, Spellbomber, spellweaver

super dark33
2011-01-01, 12:30 PM
spellrender? magic weaver? Lord of the boom-boom? spellcrafter? <insert charecter name here>?

Tvtyrant
2011-01-01, 08:13 PM
Scholar of the Sword.

HalfTangible
2011-01-01, 08:17 PM
Scholar of the Sword.

... A wizard/sorc...

... Sword....

*brains wizzes, smoke poors from ears*

PLAKOOOOMP

The Glyphstone
2011-01-01, 08:22 PM
... A wizard/sorc...

... Sword....

*brains wizzes, smoke pours from ears*

PLAKOOOOMP

it's the five hundred pound gorilla principle again. If you're a 20th level gestalt wiz/sorc, and you want to carry a sword around, who's going to tell you no?

Tvtyrant
2011-01-01, 08:25 PM
it's the five hundred pound gorilla principle again. If you're a 20th level gestalt wiz/sorc, and you want to carry a sword around, who's going to tell you no?

No one!

I apparently read the Gestalt wrong; so I am updating my entry to Dedicate of the Arcane. Or maybe Balance of the Twindred Powers.

yldenfrei
2011-01-01, 09:23 PM
Lord of Two Powers?
*I'm really running out of bad puns. :P

HalfTangible
2011-01-01, 09:24 PM
it's the five hundred pound gorilla principle again. If you're a 20th level gestalt wiz/sorc, and you want to carry a sword around, who's going to tell you no?

No, my mind was burning up with the question "why would the combination of sorcerer and wizard be called anything with sword in it?"

The Glyphstone
2011-01-01, 10:08 PM
No, my mind was burning up with the question "why would the combination of sorcerer and wizard be called anything with sword in it?"

actually, it could make sense in a weird way. Being a Wiz/Sorc, he's basically mastered everything to do with magic. But he doesn't know anything about melee combat, so being a 'Scholar of the Sword' could imply that swordfighting is the only thing you don't know how to do.

HalfTangible
2011-01-01, 10:22 PM
actually, it could make sense in a weird way. Being a Wiz/Sorc, he's basically mastered everything to do with magic. But he doesn't know anything about melee combat, so being a 'Scholar of the Sword' could imply that swordfighting is the only thing you don't know how to do.

............

Scholar of X means you've learned a lot about X.

The Glyphstone
2011-01-01, 10:25 PM
............

Scholar of X means you've learned a lot about X.

Technically, it means either
A) a person who has done advanced study in a special field
or
B) : a learned person

So change the definition from "is learning the sword" to "is mastering the sword, because they've already mastered magic and can't learn anything new about it" and it works fine.

HalfTangible
2011-01-01, 11:58 PM
But that wouldn't even come close to applying until epic level, or when you started taking a warrior class =/

Also: 'Scholar' by itself means a learned person. 'Scholar of' refers to a specific field said person is learned in.

Creed
2011-01-02, 12:02 AM
Forcanter?
Greystaff?
Machigan?
Torrigan?
Afecter?

Tvtyrant
2011-01-02, 12:24 AM
I misread the Gestalt, I thought it was a Wizard/spellthief at first glance.

Amiel
2011-01-02, 09:29 AM
But that wouldn't even come close to applying until epic level, or when you started taking a warrior class =/

Also: 'Scholar' by itself means a learned person. 'Scholar of' refers to a specific field said person is learned in.

The class name of Swordsage may be appropriate here :smallbiggrin:

Fitz10019
2011-01-02, 10:10 AM
what class name will you give to a Gestalt wizard/sorcerer? (except magus)

How about... "Umbrapolaris"? :nale:

It suddenly came to me!

umbrapolaris
2011-01-02, 10:16 AM
How about... "Umbrapolaris"? :nale: It suddenly came to me!

hahaha, the author of UA refused it coz he said " just the name make the class overpowerful and shadows the other gestalt" :smalltongue:

Amiel
2011-01-02, 10:18 AM
Alternatively, Sir Aloparbmu :smallwink:
You don't need a class name; your name alone will suffice to induce fear in others.

super dark33
2011-01-02, 02:25 PM
i know!

TIER ZERO!

umbrapolaris
2011-01-02, 10:08 PM
i know!

TIER ZERO!

this is not a name but a class ability ^^

Psyren
2011-01-03, 01:02 AM
i know!

TIER ZERO!

Two almost totally overlapping spell lists, two separate casting stats to focus on, d4 chassis, one good save, poor BAB, only one half has any class features and even those are barebone, no more actions than a non-gestalt caster of either side...

I'm not sure what this would bring to the table that would elevate it above a pure wizard.

HalfTangible
2011-01-03, 01:29 AM
Two almost totally overlapping spell lists, two separate casting stats to focus on, d4 chassis, one good save, poor BAB, only one half has any class features and even those are barebone, no more actions than a non-gestalt caster of either side...

I'm not sure what this would bring to the table that would elevate it above a pure wizard.

A greater variety of spells that can be cast more often since Wizards get a max of 4 spells per day while a Sorcerer gets 6 (er, per spell level)?

A really really cliche backstory involving a sorcerer who pretends to be a wizard to fit in society?

A way to take two overpowered spellcasting prestige classes instead of one?

A way to play it in a Gestalt game, something a single-class wizard cannot do?

Honestly man, i'm not sure it matters what the mechanical benefit of the character is if he wants to play it. He just wants a name.

Psyren
2011-01-03, 01:57 AM
Honestly man, i'm not sure it matters what the mechanical benefit of the character is if he wants to play it. He just wants a name.

Did you notice that I wasn't quoting the OP?

umbrapolaris
2011-01-03, 02:02 AM
I'm not sure what this would bring to the table that would elevate it above a pure wizard.

in the sorcerer mode i will select only the blasting and damaging spells and spam them, and use the wizard spell slots for multi-purpose/defensive spells. of course nothing different than T1.

i have the idea to do a Wizard/Erudite STP then add the Cerebremancer/Dragon king of athas Prc ! i think it will be really cheesily powerful.

Zaq
2011-01-03, 02:07 AM
Merlin. Or, alternatively, Disciple/Son/Seeker of Merlin.

You could pick any long-lost "inventor/discoverer/early master of arcana" after which to name yourself. Merlin's just an easy one that popped into my head.

umbrapolaris
2011-01-03, 02:13 AM
Merlin. Or, alternatively, Disciple/Son/Seeker of Merlin.

You could pick any long-lost "inventor/discoverer/early master of arcana" after which to name yourself. Merlin's just an easy one that popped into my head.

did u saw the Sorcerer's Apprentice lately ? ;-)

EDITED THE ORIGINAL POST

maybe Spellstorm, spelltempest?