Vallum
2010-12-31, 04:31 PM
Thats right. My need of a kick-butt wild man, lord of primates, master of simians, super lord of the jungle is in dire need. For the last four months I've been dealing with gestalt games, so a gestalt ape lord build would be sweet.
So far, I've looked at this Druid handbook here (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19868802/Druid_Handbook_revived) and this MoMF handbook (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19528526/updated_Master_of_Many_Forms_Bible__official_wild_ shape_rules), for it would seem fitting to include druid at least.
Unfortunatly, we're playing with the not-broken pathfinder wildshape :smallfrown: so that puts a damper on the swupa-dwupa owning the druid usually can do. But would the 3.5 druid be still amazing if the druid only transformed into apes? Can I still utilize MoMF PrC with the new wildshaping rules? Is there a way to optimize one type of form to transform into, If stuck with the pathfinder rules, or even with the the 3.5 wildshape.
I would only want the ape lord to change into being, (as you can guess), any sort of ape, (Chimpanzee, Gorillas, Baboons, Monkeys, etc.)
I can supplement if I can't, though, and try to optimize druid summoning and summon loads of apes, (was thinking half-orc, +2 to any stat, ferocity, and the awesome 7th level racial sub, OR Dwarf for deep warden and good stat boosts, but I can settle for something else...)
So, with the build and what I have to work with:
Because of pathfinder, dumping my physical stats would be a big no-no, but my focus for the build is wild-shaping into and summoning apes.
9 level character, with stats as follows
16, 11, 16, 18, 16, 15
So far, I've looked at this Druid handbook here (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19868802/Druid_Handbook_revived) and this MoMF handbook (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19528526/updated_Master_of_Many_Forms_Bible__official_wild_ shape_rules), for it would seem fitting to include druid at least.
Unfortunatly, we're playing with the not-broken pathfinder wildshape :smallfrown: so that puts a damper on the swupa-dwupa owning the druid usually can do. But would the 3.5 druid be still amazing if the druid only transformed into apes? Can I still utilize MoMF PrC with the new wildshaping rules? Is there a way to optimize one type of form to transform into, If stuck with the pathfinder rules, or even with the the 3.5 wildshape.
I would only want the ape lord to change into being, (as you can guess), any sort of ape, (Chimpanzee, Gorillas, Baboons, Monkeys, etc.)
I can supplement if I can't, though, and try to optimize druid summoning and summon loads of apes, (was thinking half-orc, +2 to any stat, ferocity, and the awesome 7th level racial sub, OR Dwarf for deep warden and good stat boosts, but I can settle for something else...)
So, with the build and what I have to work with:
Because of pathfinder, dumping my physical stats would be a big no-no, but my focus for the build is wild-shaping into and summoning apes.
9 level character, with stats as follows
16, 11, 16, 18, 16, 15