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Saint GoH
2011-01-06, 11:08 PM
New gestalt campaign starting up at lvl 15, decided I wanted a s.sage//ardent build for some serious Wisdom SAD. Only thing I'm running into is mantles.

Which mantles do you find "best"? I typically mean that in versatility, but I also intend this guy to be fairly dependent on Mind Thrust so blasty is also a plus.

2011-01-06, 11:14 PM
Check out the Ardent Handbook on brilliantgameologists for a full breakdown.

Freedom is best, bar none. Creation, Fate, and Time are also very strong. Natural World is of course amazing just by having Metamorphosis in it. I personally also like Physical Power and Magic a lot.

Blasty isn't generally considered the niche of an optimized Ardent. You have to use mantle power substitution to get any of the best blasty spells into a Mantle list at all.

2011-01-06, 11:16 PM
Referenced Ardent Handbook. (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=5871.0)

Saint GoH
2011-01-06, 11:28 PM
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2011-01-07, 12:25 AM
You're best off using Tap Mantle to pull Metamorphosis out of Natural World. Don't waste a whole mantle on it; the other powers are weak (except Animal Affinity) and the granted ability is crap.

2011-01-07, 04:37 AM
Talk to your DM about customizing your mantles. The Mind's Eye ACF basically grants that, but your DM may or may not like that.