The Unfinished Business of Roy's Ghost

[LuPuWei]

I just realised something: Roy's sword (as mentioned here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0297.html)) is harmful to the undead since it was reforged with Starmetal inside.

I have also not seen anyone contacting or being contacted via the sword ever since. Could this be an effect of the Starmetal? Warding off ghosts as well as Combat-related Undead?

I'm unaware of the mechanics of such boosts in D&D, so any enlightenment would be welcome. And of course, stop me if this has been answered before :smalltongue:

[headmonkeyboy]

Im assuming in this case that it just isnt needed in the story for roys dad to pop up. that and we have enought drama with ELANs dad as it is. XD

[Leecros]

It may simply just be something that hasn't come up yet. Except for the one incident where Roy was trying to talk to Haley while she was holding the sword. It's something that Eugene hasn't tried yet. I'm assuming Eugene knows that the sword has been reforged with starmetal and he hasn't seemed too worried about it or at least he hasn't expressed that worry to Roy.

and the situation with Roy not being able to contact Haley when she was holding the sword could simply be the fact that Haley isn't related to Roy and it's the Greenhilt ancestral sword, not the Starshine ancestral sword.


So it may just be something that no one has tried yet when the circumstances have been correct.

[Kurald Galain]

The Upper Planes have specific rules about whom you can manifest to. "Coworkers" isn't on that list. Last page of Start of Darkness.

[grimbold]

[QUOTE=Leecros;10131404]
and the situation with Roy not being able to contact Haley when she was holding the sword could simply be the fact that Haley isn't related to Roy and it's the Greenhilt ancestral sword, not the Starshine ancestral sword.
/QUOTE]
i am pretty sure it is said somewhere in the strip that only family can contact each other from the grave.

[faustin]

Eugene promised Roy to show up only when Xykon recovered his phylactery and went to the Gate. The OotS has already enough problems with the whole "Empire of Blood" plot to add the lich too.

[Swordpriest]

Maybe he just met up with a hot new lady Oathspirit and is distracted for the time being. :smallamused:

[NerfTW]

Eugene promised Roy to show up only when Xykon recovered his phylactery and went to the Gate. The OotS has already enough problems with the whole "Empire of Blood" plot to add the lich too.

Exactly. Xykon hasn't moved for the gate yet. Eugene hasn't had to contact Roy, because Xykon hasn't left Azure City for anything other than a quick trip to the Oracle, which failed.

[Lemonus]

I think that Roy couldn't visit people is because it would have been bad for the plot if he could have.

[Leecros]

i am pretty sure it is said somewhere in the strip that only family can contact each other from the grave.
I seem to recall that too, now that you mention it. So i'm just going to go with an analysis that no one has tried yet.

[LuPuWei]

I seem to recall that too, now that you mention it. So i'm just going to go with an analysis that no one has tried yet.

The 4th post in this thread by Kurald Galain says that the question has been specifically dealt with in SoD (which I do not have, sadly)

[NerfTW]

Also, Roy wasn't an oath spirit like Eugene was. He was using a different means to watch everyone (and talk to the Oracle).

Eugene himself, though, was told
that he can only manifest to family members., and then only Roy, his eldest. But that was only due to the oath spirit issue.

We haven't been told what prevents a normal ghost from talking to the living.

[LuPuWei]

Also, Roy wasn't an oath spirit like Eugene was. He was using a different means to watch everyone (and talk to the Oracle).

Eugene himself, though, was told
that he can only manifest to family members., and then only Roy, his eldest. But that was only due to the oath spirit issue.

We haven't been told what prevents a normal ghost from talking to the living.

Well, thanks! That means my theory might still hold true!:smallbiggrin:

[Kurald Galain]

Also, Roy wasn't an oath spirit like Eugene was.

Yes he was - this is stated in DSTP.

[LuPuWei]

Yes he was - this is stated in DSTP.

How could he be an oath spirit when he tries to contact Haley? He's already been let into heaven and could stay there if he wanted to...

[MoonCat]

How could he be an oath spirit when he tries to contact Haley? He's already been let into heaven and could stay there if he wanted to...

He still had the oath attached to him, but the circumstances of his death and behavior during life allows him to enter the afterlife.

[doodthedud]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0291.html

Talking about the sword. Family relic that allowed him to bypass the rules for normal spirits. (panels 8-10)

[LuPuWei]

Anyway, this seems like as good a time as any for Roy's dad to manifest again :smallbiggrin: (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0769.html)