Coidzor
2011-01-11, 07:41 PM
Yeah, it's an NPC class and all, but I got to wondering what one could do with it after responding to a question about PrC Bards, Paladins, and Rangers (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/prestigiousCharacterClasses.htm) and what they did to the tiers of characters.
Well, the idea of PrCing out of adept intrigued me, but my quick skim of PrCs either required spell levels they don't get for awhile due to the delayed spell progression or spells that the adept can't get without some way of expanding its spell list. Or require Turn Undead as a special requirement.
So far I've found Divine Oracle and Impure Prince as options for standard 5th level qualification, 6th level entry. Contemplative after 10, of course, due to only having skill ranks prereqs. So, any other good ones?
Isn't there some divine-only PrC which adds spells known in a similar way to Wyrm Wizard that's also dragon themed, Dracolyte or something?
Simple entries: These first couple of PrCs are easily entered by a straight-class Adept
Divine Oracle(Complete Divine): 10/10 casting class that adds the oracle domain to one's spell list as well as giving a form of evasion at level 2. Adept qualifies at 5th level with one useless feat, Skill Focus: Knowledge Religion. Has the same BAB, HD, and good save (Will) as an adept, so it's basically Adept with class features. [Adept 5 entry]
Human Paragon (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/racialParagonClasses.htm#humanParagon)(Unearthed Arcana): 2/3 casting class but expands the skill list, boosts an ability score, and gives a bonus feat. Also has 3/4 BAB and a better HD in addition to more skill points. [Potential base class, but needs Adept 1 for the spellcasting progression]
Impure Prince(Magic of Eberron): 4/6 Casting, requires 2 feats. Has the bonus of adding some spells to one's spell list as well as playing with Symbionts. Full BAB as well as an upgraded HD. [Adept 5 entry]
Fleshwarper(Lords of Madness): 9/10 Casting, requires a feat, Graft Flesh, which means without getting a bonus feat, it can't be entered until after one's 9th level feat despite qualifying in other respects at 5th level. Adept does have the advantage of having Heal as a class skill (qualifying for the feat at level 7) and having a familiar though. Poor BAB and identical HD, but has Fort as its good save instead. One of the few ways for a non-arcane familiar to have its power boosted. [Adept 9 entry, lower with some way of getting the feat at level 7 or 8.]
Contemplative (Complete Divine): 10/10 casting. Only requirement is to have the ranks of a level 10 character in Knowledge Religion, other than a special requirement of needing to make contact with one's deity or a representative of one's deity or a representative outsider of the ideal of one's alignment, and it gives a domain at first level. Stick it out and you'll get a second domain at 6th. Otherwise, like Divine Oracle, it's Adept + actual class features. [Adept 10 entry]
Knight of the Raven (Expedition to Castle Ravenloft): 9/10 casting, Full BAB, and good Fort and Will saves. Nifty raven harrier, and best of all, it grants Turn Undead at 3rd level, opening up Divine Feats as well as other PrCs. Main downside is the wait until Adept 8 to qualify for entry due to BAB. Also expands the spell list by giving one the Sun Domain (could multiclass to get in earlier though). [Adept 8 entry, lower with multiclassing]
Master of Radiance (Libris Mortis): 4/5 casting, should give Turn Undead at 1st level, but the wording is a bit unclear. Good fort and will, and a better HD than adept too. Has less going on for it but requires less levels in the class to get turn undead than Knight of the Raven, which it kinda competes with for that purpose as they're both qualified for by Adept 8, though Master of Radiance needs the 3rd level spells from Adept 8 casting. [Adept 8 entry]
These entries need multiclassing to get into, pretty much.
Sacred Fist (Complete Divine): requires, more or less, Monk 2 to fulfill the feat requirements along with combat casting, but gives a better HD, full BAB, good fort and reflex saves, and is 8/10 casting by the table, fullcasting by the text. [Adept6/Monk2 or Adept 6/Monk1/FullBAB1 entry at earliest, Adept 16 entry otherwise]
Complicated entry:PrC Paladin (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/prestigiousCharacterClasses.htm): a dip will give +1 BAB, +1 to spellcasting level, and add Paladin spells to one's class list, but requires either a dip into cleric (making using adept superfluous) or getting into a PrC that gives Turn Undead. Requires a potentially useless feat of Mounted Combat. [Adept8/MasterofRadiance1 is the lowest entry I've found, followed by Adept 8/Knight of the Raven 3]
PrC Ranger (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/prestigiousCharacterClasses.htm): Similar to PrC Paladin, but loses a caster level at first and requires 3 feats minimum to enter, 4 if qualifying using rapid shot. Requires Calm Animals as a divine spell, the only way of which I know to acquire as a spell is either dipping druid (again, renders adept kinda superfluous) or getting the Animal Domain via Contemplative, cleric dip(:smallyuk:), or Sovereign Speaker(?) [Eberron: Adept 8, otherwise Adept10/Contemplative1, using the Animal Domain]
Divine PrCs that require Turning: Need some way of entering a class that grants turn undead. [Adept 8/Master of Radiance1 is the lowest qualification with 3rd level divine spells and turn undead, provided a high enough wisdom score]
Sacred Exorcist (Complete Divine): Would be wonderful and right up your alley for getting Turn Undead, but you don't get dismissal or dispel evil on your spell list without expanding it first. Only way I currently know of is to get A. the Good Domain for Dispel Evil (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dispelEvil.htm) (which requires 16th level Adept casting as it's a fifth level spell in the domain) B. the Paladin spell list where it's a 4th level spell, but that PrC requires Turn Undead in order to get into it.
Dismissal (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dismissal.htm)'s a level 4 cleric spell but unless it appears as a lower level spell on another domain's spell list it's either out of reach or in the same place as Dispel Evil. [Eberron: Adept 16, otherwise Adept 15/Contemplative 1 with Good Domain. :smallyuk:]
Deadgrim (Magic of Eberron): Could grant Turn Undead if one qualifies for the class using FE: Undead (possible to be gained by PrC Ranger 1 as well as dipping into Ranger 1)? Expands the spell list somewhat with necromancy spells. Full bab, 4/5 casting. A number of special requirements such as membership in an organization and defeating an undead creature of CR equal or greater to one's character level, and either Turn Undead or FE: Undead. [Eberron: Adept8/PrC Ranger 1, otherwise Adept 10/Contemplative 1/PrC Ranger 1 or Adept 8/Ranger 1]
Well, the idea of PrCing out of adept intrigued me, but my quick skim of PrCs either required spell levels they don't get for awhile due to the delayed spell progression or spells that the adept can't get without some way of expanding its spell list. Or require Turn Undead as a special requirement.
So far I've found Divine Oracle and Impure Prince as options for standard 5th level qualification, 6th level entry. Contemplative after 10, of course, due to only having skill ranks prereqs. So, any other good ones?
Isn't there some divine-only PrC which adds spells known in a similar way to Wyrm Wizard that's also dragon themed, Dracolyte or something?
Simple entries: These first couple of PrCs are easily entered by a straight-class Adept
Divine Oracle(Complete Divine): 10/10 casting class that adds the oracle domain to one's spell list as well as giving a form of evasion at level 2. Adept qualifies at 5th level with one useless feat, Skill Focus: Knowledge Religion. Has the same BAB, HD, and good save (Will) as an adept, so it's basically Adept with class features. [Adept 5 entry]
Human Paragon (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/racialParagonClasses.htm#humanParagon)(Unearthed Arcana): 2/3 casting class but expands the skill list, boosts an ability score, and gives a bonus feat. Also has 3/4 BAB and a better HD in addition to more skill points. [Potential base class, but needs Adept 1 for the spellcasting progression]
Impure Prince(Magic of Eberron): 4/6 Casting, requires 2 feats. Has the bonus of adding some spells to one's spell list as well as playing with Symbionts. Full BAB as well as an upgraded HD. [Adept 5 entry]
Fleshwarper(Lords of Madness): 9/10 Casting, requires a feat, Graft Flesh, which means without getting a bonus feat, it can't be entered until after one's 9th level feat despite qualifying in other respects at 5th level. Adept does have the advantage of having Heal as a class skill (qualifying for the feat at level 7) and having a familiar though. Poor BAB and identical HD, but has Fort as its good save instead. One of the few ways for a non-arcane familiar to have its power boosted. [Adept 9 entry, lower with some way of getting the feat at level 7 or 8.]
Contemplative (Complete Divine): 10/10 casting. Only requirement is to have the ranks of a level 10 character in Knowledge Religion, other than a special requirement of needing to make contact with one's deity or a representative of one's deity or a representative outsider of the ideal of one's alignment, and it gives a domain at first level. Stick it out and you'll get a second domain at 6th. Otherwise, like Divine Oracle, it's Adept + actual class features. [Adept 10 entry]
Knight of the Raven (Expedition to Castle Ravenloft): 9/10 casting, Full BAB, and good Fort and Will saves. Nifty raven harrier, and best of all, it grants Turn Undead at 3rd level, opening up Divine Feats as well as other PrCs. Main downside is the wait until Adept 8 to qualify for entry due to BAB. Also expands the spell list by giving one the Sun Domain (could multiclass to get in earlier though). [Adept 8 entry, lower with multiclassing]
Master of Radiance (Libris Mortis): 4/5 casting, should give Turn Undead at 1st level, but the wording is a bit unclear. Good fort and will, and a better HD than adept too. Has less going on for it but requires less levels in the class to get turn undead than Knight of the Raven, which it kinda competes with for that purpose as they're both qualified for by Adept 8, though Master of Radiance needs the 3rd level spells from Adept 8 casting. [Adept 8 entry]
These entries need multiclassing to get into, pretty much.
Sacred Fist (Complete Divine): requires, more or less, Monk 2 to fulfill the feat requirements along with combat casting, but gives a better HD, full BAB, good fort and reflex saves, and is 8/10 casting by the table, fullcasting by the text. [Adept6/Monk2 or Adept 6/Monk1/FullBAB1 entry at earliest, Adept 16 entry otherwise]
Complicated entry:PrC Paladin (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/prestigiousCharacterClasses.htm): a dip will give +1 BAB, +1 to spellcasting level, and add Paladin spells to one's class list, but requires either a dip into cleric (making using adept superfluous) or getting into a PrC that gives Turn Undead. Requires a potentially useless feat of Mounted Combat. [Adept8/MasterofRadiance1 is the lowest entry I've found, followed by Adept 8/Knight of the Raven 3]
PrC Ranger (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/prestigiousCharacterClasses.htm): Similar to PrC Paladin, but loses a caster level at first and requires 3 feats minimum to enter, 4 if qualifying using rapid shot. Requires Calm Animals as a divine spell, the only way of which I know to acquire as a spell is either dipping druid (again, renders adept kinda superfluous) or getting the Animal Domain via Contemplative, cleric dip(:smallyuk:), or Sovereign Speaker(?) [Eberron: Adept 8, otherwise Adept10/Contemplative1, using the Animal Domain]
Divine PrCs that require Turning: Need some way of entering a class that grants turn undead. [Adept 8/Master of Radiance1 is the lowest qualification with 3rd level divine spells and turn undead, provided a high enough wisdom score]
Sacred Exorcist (Complete Divine): Would be wonderful and right up your alley for getting Turn Undead, but you don't get dismissal or dispel evil on your spell list without expanding it first. Only way I currently know of is to get A. the Good Domain for Dispel Evil (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dispelEvil.htm) (which requires 16th level Adept casting as it's a fifth level spell in the domain) B. the Paladin spell list where it's a 4th level spell, but that PrC requires Turn Undead in order to get into it.
Dismissal (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dismissal.htm)'s a level 4 cleric spell but unless it appears as a lower level spell on another domain's spell list it's either out of reach or in the same place as Dispel Evil. [Eberron: Adept 16, otherwise Adept 15/Contemplative 1 with Good Domain. :smallyuk:]
Deadgrim (Magic of Eberron): Could grant Turn Undead if one qualifies for the class using FE: Undead (possible to be gained by PrC Ranger 1 as well as dipping into Ranger 1)? Expands the spell list somewhat with necromancy spells. Full bab, 4/5 casting. A number of special requirements such as membership in an organization and defeating an undead creature of CR equal or greater to one's character level, and either Turn Undead or FE: Undead. [Eberron: Adept8/PrC Ranger 1, otherwise Adept 10/Contemplative 1/PrC Ranger 1 or Adept 8/Ranger 1]