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Braelith
2011-01-21, 09:02 PM
If you had a large creature with knock down and knock back plus the dungeonscape ability to add extra dice when a bull rush was stopped by a wall or other solid surface, would the knockback count as the bull rush and the knock down of hitting them to the ground count as stopped by a solid surface provided you made both checks?

poignant123
2011-01-21, 09:17 PM
Assuming that you damage the opponent first, the sequence is like this

Knockdown --> Prone, since the trip occurs as the damage occurs.

After he is prone, the bull rush takes effect and he is sent flying. He is already prone while he is being Knockbacked.

Knockback counts as a bull rush but Knockdown doesn't count for damage as Dungeoncrasher.

2xMachina
2011-01-22, 05:47 AM
Best way to abuse Dungeoncrasher?

Fly right above them, then knockback them straight into the ground.