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Tyger
2011-02-06, 07:51 AM
The Scribe Scroll feat only allows a maximum of one scroll per day, even though you can do up to 1,000GP per day. That level one scroll, or scroll of Prestidigitation, cost less than a decent night at the inn to make, but you can still only do one per day.

Is there any feat or ability that would allow the 1 item per day cap to be lifted when the cost of said item is waaaaaaayyy less than 1,000 GP?

Jack_Simth
2011-02-06, 08:38 AM
Not that I'm aware of, no. However, there are a few ways around the problems.

1) Crafting only takes eight hours per day. If you don't need 8 hours of rest for some reason (such as a Divine caster with a Ring of Sustenance (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/rings.htm#sustenance)), then you can spend 8 hours adventuring or traveling overland, eight hours crafting, and still get in all the rest you need. Make stuff while you go.
2) There's a construct in Eberron: The Dedicated Wight. You imbue it with spells and XP, toss it in a portable hole, and it does the crafting while you do other stuff.

Tyger
2011-02-06, 08:43 AM
Not that I'm aware of, no. However, there are a few ways around the problems.

1) Crafting only takes eight hours per day. If you don't need 8 hours of rest for some reason (such as a Divine caster with a Ring of Sustenance (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/rings.htm#sustenance)), then you can spend 8 hours adventuring or traveling overland, eight hours crafting, and still get in all the rest you need. Make stuff while you go.
2) There's a construct in Eberron: The Dedicated Wight. You imbue it with spells and XP, toss it in a portable hole, and it does the crafting while you do other stuff.

Yeah, (2) is the good one, as the character is an artificer and already has the portable hole (with a built in framework to allow some doors :) ) with his little wright working away.

I guess it comes down to logic for me, which is always a bad thing to apply to magic and D&D in general. If you can do a thousand GP worth of work in eight hours (125 GP an hour or 2 GP 3 CP per minute), why does a scroll that costs nine GP take a full eight hours?

Would it really break anything to say that you could do more work in that hour? You are still restricted to the gold and XP you can spend... maybe I am over thinking this.

Kobold-Bard
2011-02-06, 08:53 AM
You are not alone in your frustrations regarding such limits. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0306.html)

Jack_Simth
2011-02-06, 08:58 AM
Yeah, (2) is the good one, as the character is an artificer and already has the portable hole (with a built in framework to allow some doors :) ) with his little wright working away.

I guess it comes down to logic for me, which is always a bad thing to apply to magic and D&D in general. If you can do a thousand GP worth of work in eight hours (125 GP an hour or 2 GP 3 CP per minute), why does a scroll that costs nine GP take a full eight hours?

Would it really break anything to say that you could do more work in that hour? You are still restricted to the gold and XP you can spend... maybe I am over thinking this.
Ah. Well, you've got similar things with a Wizard preparing spells.

Take a 20th level specialist Wizard. In an hour, he can prepare all his spells (50 of them, before intelligence bonus). If he only prepares 3/4ths of them, it takes him 45 minutes. Later on in the day, he can spend 15 minutes to prepare one spell, or fifteen minutes to prepare the remaining 1/4 of his spells. Yes, he can prepare 12 or 13 spells in the exact same time it takes him to prepare one spell. Why? Rules-wise, because 15 minutes is the minimum, regardless of other considerations. Fluff-wise isn't listed.

If you do want to make scrolls faster, try convincing your DM that a scroll with multiple spells on it is considered one item. It might not take fifteen minutes to make that one scroll of Detect Magic, but you can spend eight hours making a scroll of Detect Magic, Haste, and Tongues. Do note that this isn't clearly specified in the rules, one way or the other, but might help.

Thrawn4
2011-02-06, 08:58 AM
Because of the rules of offer and demand? People are more interested in a valuable scroll, and I guess there are fewer people who can scribe on than those who can scribe 1st level scrolls.

RebelRogue
2011-02-06, 09:00 AM
Can't you just write a scroll with several spells on it?

LOTRfan
2011-02-06, 09:13 AM
Yeah, there's rules for that in the SRD.


A scroll is a heavy sheet of fine vellum or high-quality paper. An area about 8 inches wide and 11 inches long is sufficient to hold one spell. The sheet is reinforced at the top and bottom with strips of leather slightly longer than the sheet is wide. A scroll holding more than one spell has the same width (about 8 inches) but is an extra foot or so long for each extra spell.

They even have this neat little chart, but I don't remember it in the DMG.

Tyger
2011-02-06, 09:20 AM
Can't you just write a scroll with several spells on it?

D'oh!!! Totally forgot about that rule. Problem solved. And its RAW, so even more awesome.

Tyndmyr
2011-02-06, 10:07 AM
RAW and core. Pretty much a win for any campaign.

I gotta remember to do this more often.

Psyren
2011-02-06, 10:41 AM
You are not alone in your frustrations regarding such limits. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0306.html)

Even liches hate these limits (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0543.html) :smalltongue: