Dual progression PrC - initiator/manifester [3.5]

[true_shinken]

Guys, I'm looking for a dual progression class for psionics and the sublime way. I found the Ephemeral Blade (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107034) and the Mindhunter (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151833) in the homebrew forums, but those are not exactly what I'm looking for. I wanted more... exotic fluff, I believe. Gotta love me some Jade Phoenix Mage.
So, is there anytthing remotely similar to what I want?

[navar100]

I know of nothing official, so why not just make up your own? There are plenty of gish builds, with and without the sublime way to show the way.

A good place to start is the prerequisites. Based on many gish builds, a prerequisite should require the ability to manifest second level powers. The second prerequisite is the ability to ready second level maneuvers. You can make one these 3rd level and the other just first if you want a higher manifestation ability or higher sublime ability. This prestige class is entered earliest at 7th level.

You also need to decide is this primarily for crusaders, warblades, swordsages, or doesn't matter. Let's presume the sublime class doesn't matter. This will be a 10 level prestige class. It must have +1 manifester level every level. Gain 1 maneuver known every other level starting at 2nd level of the prestige class. You can ready another maneuver at levels 5 and 10. Gain a stance at levels 3 and 7.

Now all you need is to spice it up, providing some special ability unique to this prestige class. Perhaps you can expend a maneuver readied (and granted for crusaders) to give you its level in power points to use immediately for a power you manifest in all ways you use power points. You can expend a level 1 maneuver at 1st level, level 2 maneuver at 3rd level, etc., up to a level 5 maneuver at 10th level. As a 10th level capstone, you can expend a maneuver readied (and granted for crusaders) in place of expending your psionic focus. You cannot do this again until you have recovered a maneuver.

Adjust to taste.

[Kobold-Bard]

Arcane Wrath = Psionic Wrath: Costs PP equal to the minimum needed to manifest a power of your chosen level rather than a spell slot.

Mystic Phoenix Stance = Ethereal Phoenix Stance: +1 Manifester level, sosts PP equal to the minimum needed to manifest a power of your chosen level rather than a spell slot.

Empowering Strike = Empowering Strike: This should be self explanatory.

Firebird Stance = Firebird Stance: +3 Manifestor level for the purposes of working out variables/checks, but not for the amount of PP you can spend on a power.

Quickening Strike = Quickening Strike: Again, easy.

Psionic/Initiator Gish with JPM fluff. Job done.

[true_shinken]

I know of nothing official, so why not just make up your own? There are plenty of gish builds, with and without the sublime way to show the way.

There is nothing official. I just don't want the trouble of homebrewing a class on my own, so I guess I'll use someone else's work. That's the whole point of posting your homebrew online, isn't it?



Psionic/Initiator Gish with JPM fluff. Job done.
I want JPM fluff to be tied to the mages. I'm looking for a class with different fluff. I like my JPMs arcane.

[SurlySeraph]

Mindhunter (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-151833.html) is pretty fluffy.

Mental Grip Discipline (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145817) and the PrCs for it would be relevant, as would be Sleeping Goddess Discipline (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5408276).

[navar100]

There is nothing official. I just don't want the trouble of homebrewing a class on my own, so I guess I'll use someone else's work. That's the whole point of posting your homebrew online, isn't it?


I did most of the work for you already. :smallsmile: Just pick the disciplines you want for it. Make it full BAB, d8 HD, Good Will save, and class skills appropriate for sublime warriors and psionics. Call it "Sublime Mind".

[Endarire]

Here is my Diamond Heart (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=7686.msg253182#msg253182).

Insert your own flavor.

[true_shinken]

Insert your own flavor.

As navar100 has demonstrated, mechanics are easy. I want a class with it's own flavor. Mindhunter for example just uses stolen fluff, not what I'm looking for.